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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 14, 2023 12:09:01 GMT
I've been surprised by the press coverage of the "tragedy" when some migrants drowned attempting to cross from Calais.
The real story here is that these people attempted to cross the Channel on very windy day with rough seas. It used to be that the boat crossings declined in adverse conditions but nowadays the small boats are accompanied French warships so they are coming even in bad weather. So what happened appears to be that the overloaded boat got into difficulties within French waters but the escorting French ships did nothing to help initially. That was left to the RNLI who went into French waters to help. The RNLI then took these people back to Dover.
This is an extraordinary sequence of events. Why were the RNLI even involved here? Presumably the migrants or the French had phoned them. And why did the RNLI then take them to Dover when they were in French waters and the standard procedure is to take rescued people to the nearest land. Is the RNLI now conspiring with France to funnel illegal undesirables from France to England? I think we already know the answer to that.
It's also emerged that there was some kind of gun fight between the illegals before embarkation. Which is more evidence that these people are carrying guns and are criminals.
Yet all we get from the media is about how "tragic" it is that illegal migrants have died. Bollocks. The fact is that it reveals - even more starkly than usual - that the Frogs are taking the piss and depositing all their detritus in England. It's obvious. All these bastards have to do is roll up in either Greece or Italy and they're as good as in Calais - because of Schengen. And from Calais the French give them all the help they can muster to get them to England. While accepting hundreds of millions of pounds from our ludicrous PM Sunak to stop them. None of them are ever stopped. Even the very few who have their journey interrupted are just taken by free shuttle back to their camp and they try again the next day.
Why are our politicians so fucking stupid?
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 14, 2023 13:02:48 GMT
Have you considered the possibiity that the politicians are far from stupid but are instead engaged in a rather elaborate charade? That while putting on a ritual act of being vigorously opposed to unwanted and unnecessary immigration they are doing everything they can behind the scenes to facilitate it?
Did anyone seriously believe that putting people of migration background into high-level posts where migration policy was created and implemented was going to result in an outcome which prioritsed the rights and interests of the majority population?
If you did I've got some swampland in Florida I'd like to discuss with you.
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 14, 2023 13:13:01 GMT
This video was already shared earlier by Orac but it can't be shared widely enough in my view, so here it is again:
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 14, 2023 14:13:06 GMT
A point raised in the previous posts caught my eye. The statement that the RNLI were out there. Tve BBC want us to believe this was a ‘joint operation’
Now, the thing is i know a little about the area and the distribution of UK based lifeboats. Admittedly from a few years ago. But the problem started a few miles from the french shore inside french waters and the French wait for a british lifeboat to invade french territorial waters ? Why wasnt it a british TRAWLER that arrived first ? Because tbe french gunboats would have sunk it, that’s why.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 14:58:43 GMT
I've been surprised by the press coverage of the "tragedy" when some migrants drowned attempting to cross from Calais. The real story here is that these people attempted to cross the Channel on very windy day with rough seas. It used to be that the boat crossings declined in adverse conditions but nowadays the small boats are accompanied French warships so they are coming even in bad weather. So what happened appears to be that the overloaded boat got into difficulties within French waters but the escorting French ships did nothing to help initially. That was left to the RNLI who went into French waters to help. The RNLI then took these people back to Dover. This is an extraordinary sequence of events. Why were the RNLI even involved here? Presumably the migrants or the French had phoned them. And why did the RNLI then take them to Dover when they were in French waters and the standard procedure is to take rescued people to the nearest land. Is the RNLI now conspiring with France to funnel illegal undesirables from France to England? I think we already know the answer to that. It's also emerged that there was some kind of gun fight between the illegals before embarkation. Which is more evidence that these people are carrying guns and are criminals. Yet all we get from the media is about how "tragic" it is that illegal migrants have died. Bollocks. The fact is that it reveals - even more starkly than usual - that the Frogs are taking the piss and depositing all their detritus in England. It's obvious. All these bastards have to do is roll up in either Greece or Italy and they're as good as in Calais - because of Schengen. And from Calais the French give them all the help they can muster to get them to England. While accepting hundreds of millions of pounds from our ludicrous PM Sunak to stop them. None of them are ever stopped. Even the very few who have their journey interrupted are just taken by free shuttle back to their camp and they try again the next day. Why are our politicians so fucking stupid? As I said elswhere... ...it isn't incompetence or stupidity, quite the reverse. This is planned, regardless of what the people want or think, this is a political agenda across all parties and of course the EU. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 16, 2023 13:22:35 GMT
This video was already shared earlier by Orac but it can't be shared widely enough in my view, so here it is again:
I think that's a bit extreme for me. I'm sure that there are many people who are out to destroy this country - and I posted a list a few months back but didn't get much agreement. One groups that is working to destroy this country because of malice is the muslims. The displacement of people from countries that are involved in muslim sectarian wars is being used to infiltrate non-muslim countries and destabilise them - it's also used to get jihadists into these countries. This is pure malice. But I don't agree that our politicians are driven by malice. I just think they're driven by ideology and ignorance. I actually think that Braverman wants to stop the boats but she's just stymied at every turn by opposing politicians and the blob. Sunak on the other hand is another matter. I think his motives are very dubious and he has no empathy with this country at all. He seems to be trying to fill it with Indians by handing out visas left, right and centre. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 16, 2023 14:04:47 GMT
The problem with focusing on Muslims as the chief cause of our malaise is that, collectively, they have litle political influence or economic power compared to other 'market-dominant' minorities.
The only power they have is negative, the ability to blackmail the political class into giving them the resources they feel entitled to, otherwise they will run the risk of sectarian violence and urban terrorism.
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 17, 2023 7:49:54 GMT
The problem with focusing on Muslims as the chief cause of our malaise is that, collectively, they have litle political influence or economic power compared to other 'market-dominant' minorities. The only power they have is negative, the ability to blackmail the political class into giving them the resources they feel entitled to, otherwise they will run the risk of sectarian violence and urban terrorism. I think that muslims are one of the many groups that are damaging this country - but they're possibly the only one that's doing it out of malice. I think the other groups, like the blob, the eco-mentalists, the Left etc etc are doing it out of political ideology or plain stupidity. I don't think they deliberately want to destroy the country. The muslims most certainly do - and they have more power than you think because they vote as a bloc and cheat the system. For example I think Sadiq Khan is on a mission to destroy London in every way he can. It's deliberate and it's done out of malice. Actually another group that's trying to destroy the country is the various people who have waged a war of disinformation to persuade so many of our politicians (and people) of the need to reduce carbon dioxide. I believe that this is a disinformation war that is intended to destroy the economies of western countries. And I know many people dismiss this as a conspiracy theory but I think they're wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2023 8:08:57 GMT
The problem with focusing on Muslims as the chief cause of our malaise is that, collectively, they have litle political influence or economic power compared to other 'market-dominant' minorities. The only power they have is negative, the ability to blackmail the political class into giving them the resources they feel entitled to, otherwise they will run the risk of sectarian violence and urban terrorism. Muslims in Pakistan are currently busy burning churches down and throwing Christians off buildings, setting fire to the Christians' houses and just generally getting rid of them. I expect some of them will want to come to England, as long as they don't get rehoused in Tower Hamlets or Bradford. |
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