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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 5, 2023 5:10:58 GMT
Intelligent people know why Combustion engines are targeted, and why they are been phased out Intelligent people know why gas boilers are on the Hit List, and why more and more Congestion Charges are appearing in our citys. Intelligent people understand why Oil and Gas must be replaced with alternatives... Yes we do: Because it's all part of the New World Orders mechanism for controlling the masses. And we do not consent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2023 5:35:41 GMT
The establishment left are in bed with the banks, multinational corporations and every bad thing government has done to the people of this once fine country. You can see why they wanted to fatten the country up and turn people against each other.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 5, 2023 6:07:09 GMT
We have had a Tory led government for 13 years but the left are in control?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2023 6:11:48 GMT
In control? Partly at an institutional level, but on the most part they're paid up minions to those who are in control. Anti-establishment and free-speech were once things the left used to claim to support. Now they're the establishment left who despise free-speech and want total government control. This isn't the 1960s.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 5, 2023 6:36:15 GMT
We have had a Tory led government for 13 years but the left are in control? Now you are getting it...Its the lefty swamp that runs the country not the government .
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 5, 2023 6:44:21 GMT
We have had a Tory led government for 13 years but the left are in control? Well we have had the same policies enacted since 1997 - of course you could always argue that New Labour were not of the 'left'
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 5, 2023 6:56:00 GMT
We have had a Tory led government for 13 years but the left are in control? Well we have had the same policies enacted since 1997 - of course you could always argue that New Labour were not of the 'left' Well I'd agree they were centre left. Certainly not a bunch of lefties. JC got rejected by the electorate, was an opportunity if we did want a "lefty". After 10 years of austerity and culture wars, there isn't a lot left, so the government only have the culture wars.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 5, 2023 7:11:24 GMT
Well we have had the same policies enacted since 1997 - of course you could always argue that New Labour were not of the 'left' Well I'd agree they were centre left. Certainly not a bunch of lefties. JC got rejected by the electorate, was an opportunity if we did want a "lefty". After 10 years of austerity and culture wars, there isn't a lot left, so the government only have the culture wars. It's a bit late those on the left complaining about the culture wars they started now that they are being turned against them. Otherwise you would struggle to find a single policy area where the policies enacted have differed significantly between either of the main parties.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 5, 2023 7:30:35 GMT
I think we both somewhat agree that what we have at present isn't what we want and doesn't have public support. Where we differ is to what we want for next year. I would dearly like the LibDems (or more unlikely The Greens) to form part of the government.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 5, 2023 7:54:22 GMT
And we all know who to blame for this shit situation.
Britain dubbed an ‘elite dictatorship’ as Patrick Christys blasts leaders for ‘ignoring majority’
Britain has been dubbed an “elite dictatorship” where the majority view on issues such as cars, wokery and crime are ignored.
In a blistering attack on the political bourgeoisie, journalist Allister Heath hit out at the “deranged war on cars, our looming ban on gas boilers, the debanking scandal, the failure to prosecute crime, the attempted cancellation of women, the sabotage of the Brexit agenda and the scale of migration”.
Speaking on GB News, presenter Patrick Christys says he agrees with the sentiment and believes those in power are becoming the same.
He said: “The majority view does not appear to be being upheld by those in charge.
Britain dubbed an ‘elite dictatorship’ as Patrick Christys blasts leaders for ‘ignoring majority’
“All too often, they will stand on a manifesto on something and something else will come up and they’ll say, ‘sorry, something else has come up we’ll have to do this instead. “Here we are, years down the line, with an unelected prime minister doing things nobody wants and a leader of the opposition doing things I’m convinced he doesn’t want to do. “But he was some very woke people behind him making sure he does them.” Speaking in his Telegraph piece, Heath said that the UK is living in a “different political reality” than what should truly be the case if it were a majoritarian society. The reporter claimed public opinion is “flagrantly disregarded” and Westminster has become “cartelised” as a result. linkIt’s the Westminster bubble which has been around a while, it even predates Blair but is cemented in place by his ideals if you can call them that. New Labour has morphed in to what we have today which is indeed rule by what I can only describe as a political mayonnaise, as mad as that sounds mayonnaise is an emulsion where things that in a normal state are separate are bound together by an emulsifier and that's what Westminster is. Forget left and right that is an illusion,the main parties fight to be the same where we are ruled by a single agenda of what is deemed best for us and in our best interests, I use the words our best interests liberally because what we believe is so often opposed and ignored but no matter they argue to be the same.
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Post by Orac on Aug 5, 2023 8:26:17 GMT
The complaint is not that people with these rather robotic, uninspiring and flat managerial personalities exist, it's that our entire political class seems to be cleared out of everyone else, so we can't deselect them. The public political discussion looks like a sixth form debate between the most needy, teacher's-pet type students from the same class.
Why is Rishi Sunak's body language and vocal pacing almost identical to Tony Blair's? Are these people actors who literally practice in front of mirrors for years? Is anyone with any political convictions (except the compulsory Marxism) allowed into the political class now? We have hollowed out, acted politics
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Post by Orac on Aug 5, 2023 8:37:02 GMT
And we all know who to blame for this shit situation.
Britain dubbed an ‘elite dictatorship’ as Patrick Christys blasts leaders for ‘ignoring majority’
Britain has been dubbed an “elite dictatorship” where the majority view on issues such as cars, wokery and crime are ignored.
In a blistering attack on the political bourgeoisie, journalist Allister Heath hit out at the “deranged war on cars, our looming ban on gas boilers, the debanking scandal, the failure to prosecute crime, the attempted cancellation of women, the sabotage of the Brexit agenda and the scale of migration”.
Speaking on GB News, presenter Patrick Christys says he agrees with the sentiment and believes those in power are becoming the same.
He said: “The majority view does not appear to be being upheld by those in charge.
Britain dubbed an ‘elite dictatorship’ as Patrick Christys blasts leaders for ‘ignoring majority’
“All too often, they will stand on a manifesto on something and something else will come up and they’ll say, ‘sorry, something else has come up we’ll have to do this instead. “Here we are, years down the line, with an unelected prime minister doing things nobody wants and a leader of the opposition doing things I’m convinced he doesn’t want to do. “But he was some very woke people behind him making sure he does them.” Speaking in his Telegraph piece, Heath said that the UK is living in a “different political reality” than what should truly be the case if it were a majoritarian society. The reporter claimed public opinion is “flagrantly disregarded” and Westminster has become “cartelised” as a result. linkIt’s the Westminster bubble which has been around a while, it even predates Blair but is cemented in place by his ideals if you can call them that. New Labour has morphed in to what we have today which is indeed rule by what I can only describe as a political mayonnaise, as mad as that sounds mayonnaise is an emulsion where things that in a normal state are separate are bound together by an emulsifier and that's what Westminster is. Forget left and right that is an illusion,the main parties fight to be the same where we are ruled by a single agenda of what is deemed best for us and in our best interests, I use the words our best interests liberally because what we believe is so often opposed and ignored but no matter they argue to be the same. We have not had a genuine change in administration since Blair - you can feel it. The same basic personalities/personality types are in charge. It's a bureaucratic technocracy with democratic window dressing. It's a very dangerous situation, especially when it gets significantly detached from public values and sentiment - which is likely and what is happening.
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 5, 2023 8:58:16 GMT
And we all know who to blame for this shit situation.
Britain dubbed an ‘elite dictatorship’ as Patrick Christys blasts leaders for ‘ignoring majority’
Britain has been dubbed an “elite dictatorship” where the majority view on issues such as cars, wokery and crime are ignored.
In a blistering attack on the political bourgeoisie, journalist Allister Heath hit out at the “deranged war on cars, our looming ban on gas boilers, the debanking scandal, the failure to prosecute crime, the attempted cancellation of women, the sabotage of the Brexit agenda and the scale of migration”.
Speaking on GB News, presenter Patrick Christys says he agrees with the sentiment and believes those in power are becoming the same.
He said: “The majority view does not appear to be being upheld by those in charge.
Britain dubbed an ‘elite dictatorship’ as Patrick Christys blasts leaders for ‘ignoring majority’
“All too often, they will stand on a manifesto on something and something else will come up and they’ll say, ‘sorry, something else has come up we’ll have to do this instead. “Here we are, years down the line, with an unelected prime minister doing things nobody wants and a leader of the opposition doing things I’m convinced he doesn’t want to do. “But he was some very woke people behind him making sure he does them.” Speaking in his Telegraph piece, Heath said that the UK is living in a “different political reality” than what should truly be the case if it were a majoritarian society. The reporter claimed public opinion is “flagrantly disregarded” and Westminster has become “cartelised” as a result. linkIt’s the Westminster bubble which has been around a while, it even predates Blair but is cemented in place by his ideals if you can call them that. New Labour has morphed in to what we have today which is indeed rule by what I can only describe as a political mayonnaise, as mad as that sounds mayonnaise is an emulsion where things that in a normal state are separate are bound together by an emulsifier and that's what Westminster is. Forget left and right that is an illusion,the main parties fight to be the same where we are ruled by a single agenda of what is deemed best for us and in our best interests, I use the words our best interests liberally because what we believe is so often opposed and ignored but no matter they argue to be the same. Brexit brought out the worst in politicians and politics.
The remoaners from the Tories Lib-dems Labour,they joined some sort of remoaner pact, you can excuse Labour and the Lib-dems because they don't care about bringing down the Tories, but here we have insider Tory traitors who don't care about bringing the Tories down, all they care about is rejoining the EU.
They are betraying the Tory party and the people, there is a clear pattern in the Tory party that suggests sabotage, they are blocking any policy that goes against the remoaners ideology, so Sunak is up against Labour the Lib-dems and his own in-house treacherous backstabbing remoaner traitors.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 5, 2023 9:07:44 GMT
We have had a Tory led government for 13 years but the left are in control? We may have had a Tory government for 13 years, but we havent had a centre right Tory government for a long time.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 5, 2023 9:10:06 GMT
It’s the Westminster bubble which has been around a while, it even predates Blair but is cemented in place by his ideals if you can call them that. New Labour has morphed in to what we have today which is indeed rule by what I can only describe as a political mayonnaise, as mad as that sounds mayonnaise is an emulsion where things that in a normal state are separate are bound together by an emulsifier and that's what Westminster is. Forget left and right that is an illusion,the main parties fight to be the same where we are ruled by a single agenda of what is deemed best for us and in our best interests, I use the words our best interests liberally because what we believe is so often opposed and ignored but no matter they argue to be the same. Brexit brought out the worst in politicians and politics.
The remoaners from the Tories Lib-dems Labour,they joined some sort of remoaner pact, you can excuse Labour and the Lib-dems because they don't care about bringing down the Tories, but here we have insider Tory traitors who don't care about bringing the Tories down, all they care about is rejoining the EU.
They are betraying the Tory party and the people, there is a clear pattern in the Tory party that suggests sabotage, they are blocking any policy that goes against the remoaners ideology, so Sunak is up against Labour the Lib-dems and his own in-house treacherous backstabbing remoaner traitors.
Indeed it did because the electorate did the unthinkable and didn’t do as it was told,this has happened in other countries where referenda were ignored or rerun till they voted the right way. We are going through a lengthier process where with the assistance of Westminster a democratic vote is thwarted,discredited step by step until they get the result they want.
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