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Post by Pacifico on Jul 30, 2023 7:01:17 GMT
What will it take before someone finally pulls the plug on this fiasco and saves us from wasting another £100 Billion...
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 30, 2023 8:29:00 GMT
It will be a feature of Abandoned Engineering on the tv series, Tom Ward telling us what it was 'going' to be until it was abandoned.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 30, 2023 9:05:11 GMT
In the meantime Felixstowe, Britain's largest container port which handles 48% of all container traffic, is served by a twelve-mile long unelectrified single-track branch line.
The Felixstowe Branch Line itself connects into the East Suffolk Line, also unelectrified.
According to an FoI disclosure Network Rail only electrified 2.2 km of track in 2022, compared its target of 13,000 km or 448 km per year by 2050.
The new East-West Line linking Oxford and Cambridge, part of which opens this year, will also only usable by diesel trains.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 30, 2023 12:27:46 GMT
It will be a feature of Abandoned Engineering on the tv series, Tom Ward telling us what it was 'going' to be until it was abandoned. Men get on with the work while women think they can talk it into being.
The men get the job finished on time and on budget.
HS2 is a learning experience for them to know their sex. If the men maintain control it will happen.
Tom Ward is like a woman man. He should get his shovel out and be a part of the solution.
1936, a time when men were on the job.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2023 18:03:41 GMT
Common sense tells me that if you have a road between Birmingham and London, if you add another lane, sooner or later it will be time to add another lane, then another.
Build a super fast railway with frequent trains, and STOP building bigger, wider roads, you drive people to using trains.
One High Speed Train equates to an average of 150 cars OFF the road
Humans are selfish - I want, I must have, why should I, I want it MY WAY ... political parties and governments need to get together and improve public transport and make travelling by car difficult, expensive and inconvenient.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 30, 2023 18:48:59 GMT
Any benefit to the passenger of saving twenty minutes on the run from Edinburgh to London is destroyed by the Saddo Khan’t 20mph bollox.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 30, 2023 19:18:04 GMT
Common sense tells me that if you have a road between Birmingham and London, if you add another lane, sooner or later it will be time to add another lane, then another. Build a super fast railway with frequent trains, and STOP building bigger, wider roads, you drive people to using trains. One High Speed Train equates to an average of 150 cars OFF the road Humans are selfish - I want, I must have, why should I, I want it MY WAY ... political parties and governments need to get together and improve public transport and make travelling by car difficult, expensive and inconvenient. Have you ever stopped to ask WHY we need to get to and from london ? In my father’s teens it was the capital of the United Kingdom, and the city at the head of an empire upon which the sun never set. But by the time i took over grandad’s work in detecting those who came with malice aforethought the empire was reduced to a couple of dodgy tax havens holding the wealth purloined by our corrupt politicians, and within two decades Blair would destroy the unity of the country by creating fiefdoms for regional jumped up little hitlers and filling the city with foreigners. Today it is an overpriced shithole that saddo’s latest measures will to nothing to endear tourists to. We really need to make full advantage of remote working to destroy the daily commute into this circle of hell and move any and every possible business out and into somewhere more suburban, or better still right away from the place. Who knows, when the office space is worthless because nobody wants it, they might start building houses people can afford. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2023 19:12:30 GMT
HS2 has been given a rating of “unachievable” by an official watchdog, as the construction of the high-speed link experiences further delays. The project’s first two phases – London to Birmingham and then on to Crewe in Cheshire – have been given a “red” warning by the Infrastructure and Projects Authority (IPA), which reports to the Cabinet Office and HM Treasury. The red rating, which appears in the IPA’s annual report on major projects, says: “Successful delivery of the project appears to be unachievable. “There are major issues with project definition, schedule, budget, quality and/or benefits delivery, which at this stage do not appear to be manageable or resolvable. The project may need re-scoping and/or its overall viability reassessed.” www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/hs2-rail-plans-watchdog-b2384517.htmlHS2 was folly from the start, the only reason it went ahead is because vested interests represented by powerful lobby groups were going to make a killing. A far more sensible and affordable project would have been to upgrade current Victorian rail infrastructure including tunnels and bridges to accommodate double deck carriages. Speed was never a huge issue, capacity was always the issue. HS2 will prove to be an extremely expensive civil engineering cock up, indeed it already is. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 31, 2023 21:28:48 GMT
I watched 'The Great Railway Disaster' the other day by Ben Elton for Ch4. It didn't tell us anything we didnt already know, but it did highlight how much better the money for HS2 could have been spent.....it's criminal.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 31, 2023 21:51:16 GMT
Ah excellent, I will watch that ^. Christ I haven't seen Ben Elton in years, decades even.
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 1, 2023 0:29:49 GMT
I watched 'The Great Railway Disaster' the other day by Ben Elton for Ch4. It didn't tell us anything we didnt already know, but it did highlight how much better the money for HS2 could have been spent.....it's criminal. That was, sadly very good. It reminded me of a book I read many years ago called 'The Great Railway Conspiracy' (David Henshaw) in which he explains how the railways were sacrificed, via Beeching, in favour of road transport and in particular the fledgling motorway network which at the time was seen as the future of transport. In privatising the railways Major made the same mistake as MacMillan did a generation before, neither of them understood the value of the railways. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 1, 2023 6:35:42 GMT
Just think what difference £150 Billion would have made had it been spent on upgrading the service in the regions rather than on HS2 just to save 20 minutes between London and Birmingham - criminal.
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