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Post by Red Rackham on Nov 1, 2022 13:16:53 GMT
I see Red is still evading the question. Tbh Dappy, I doubt you see anything.
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Post by dappy on Nov 1, 2022 13:25:20 GMT
My eyesight in this case seems pretty much 20-20.
You are avoiding what the vast majority of people would find a very simple question to answer.
It speaks volumes about just how radicalised you have allowed yourself to become. Sad to see.
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Post by sword on Nov 1, 2022 13:39:20 GMT
Darling don't you realise that mental illness have no bearing on this case. The reason this man committed this terrorist attack was because the poor soul had enough of illegal immigration /legal immigration Do some of you people not know how extreme that sounds? you may not like asylum seekers or illegal immigrants,that does not justify trying to kill them,thats fascist thinking,fascists always like someone to blame usually some minority like the jews or Muslims.
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Post by sword on Nov 1, 2022 13:46:22 GMT
I wouldn't necessarily call either instance "normal life" Pacifico, but I agree with you -of course neither instance that you mention be remotely justified, whatever your political opinions. That's why it is particularly shocking that seemingly Red and Handyman are finding it so difficult to answer a simple question Do they regard someone throwing firebombs at a building containing a significant number of people as being justifiable? Not a hard question to answer surely. There have been cases in Germany of far right headcases fire bombing and murdering asylum seekers,its a very thin line between that and what happened in Kent.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 13:48:59 GMT
1) It isn't acceptable to firebomb people. 2) France is a safe country. 3) An alarming rate of illegal immigrants who cross by boat drown and something must be done to prevent that, even if the methods of saving lives prove offensive to lefties. 1) correct. 2) But not the safe country they want to go to, or are we to remove that right? 3) Love the faux "I care about the asylum seekers welfare" bit.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 1, 2022 13:55:26 GMT
Beggars cannot be choosers Red Rum. France is a safe country, not a war zone. Better to be safe than dead.
Killing with kindness is still killing. It's not an acceptable option.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 1, 2022 13:56:30 GMT
An alarming rate of illegal immigrants who cross by boat drown and something must be done to prevent that, even if the methods of saving lives prove offensive to lefties.
Oh yeah vinny and what method did you suggest has a method of saving life's.
Blasting them out of the water.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 13:59:32 GMT
Beggars cannot be choosers Red Rum. France is a safe country, not a war zone. Better to be safe than dead. Killing with kindness is still killing. It's not an acceptable option. They have a legal right to go on to the country of their choosing.
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Post by Vinny on Nov 1, 2022 14:04:07 GMT
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Post by Handyman on Nov 1, 2022 16:59:54 GMT
I don't know whether it can be legally defined as terrorism or not Red. As I said I dont think the definition is important. You and now Hardyman seemingly are finding it difficult to answer a simple question whether you regard someone throwing firebombs at a building containing a significant number of people as being justifiable. Wow. You have not asked me that question if you had asked me, I would have told you it is unacceptable I did state it is not the actions of a sane person, you in your wisdom and I use the term loosely thought Terrorism is clouded in mystery, and I proved you wrong. You do not seem to understand that until the Police investigation then we may know if the legal eagles decide if his actions was an act of Terrorism or not. The Anti-Terrorist Squad is now involved and before you wet your frilly knickers that does not mean that it automatically means it was a terror attack, which the Anti-Terrorist Squad spokesperson has made clear. Check the latest Media
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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2022 19:15:05 GMT
Its not terrorism Red Rum. For it to be terrorism the intent has to be to terrorise. There was no warning of the fire bombs, no threats before hand or promises of attack.
Arson is not terrorism
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 19:48:05 GMT
Its not terrorism Red Rum. For it to be terrorism the intent has to be to terrorise. There was no warning of the fire bombs, no threats before hand or promises of attack. Arson is not terrorism I don't agree with that view. Was there a warning of the underground bombings? The Manchester bombing? Arson is not in itself terrorism, but if it is done for political ends it is. Would it have helped if a brown guy called Mohammed with a bushy beard had been named as the dead man in the car. Would you have called it terrorism then?
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Post by zanygame on Nov 1, 2022 20:11:01 GMT
Beggars cannot be choosers Red Rum. France is a safe country, not a war zone. Better to be safe than dead. Killing with kindness is still killing. It's not an acceptable option. Where does personal freedom come into that equation? Should we prevent you taking risks?
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Post by Orac on Nov 1, 2022 20:12:25 GMT
Morgoth's Review
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 21:05:02 GMT
Beggars cannot be choosers Red Rum. France is a safe country, not a war zone. Better to be safe than dead. Killing with kindness is still killing. It's not an acceptable option. They have a legal right to go on to the country of their choosing. No they don't.
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