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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 27, 2023 12:02:18 GMT
Assuming you are correct, how was leaving the EU supposed to cure the UK's chronic woes that you describe? Hasn't it just added more to the list? Well as being in the EU for 40 years was not solving the UK's chronic woes, then perhaps time to try something different? It's not really something different though is it. It's a forlorn effort to return to the status quo ante circa 1955 when Britain was still a global power and had good friends in faraway places.
But none of that exists in the 21st century despite the best efforts of our political leaders to resuscitate it.
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 27, 2023 12:12:25 GMT
Dan, there's a thread about you on discussion board.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 27, 2023 14:28:24 GMT
Well as being in the EU for 40 years was not solving the UK's chronic woes, then perhaps time to try something different? It's not really something different though is it. It's a forlorn effort to return to the status quo ante circa 1955 when Britain was still a global power and had good friends in faraway places.
But none of that exists in the 21st century despite the best efforts of our political leaders to resuscitate it.
It doesnt have to be the same as the 1950's though - the opportunity for change is there, which it wasn't as members of the EU.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 27, 2023 15:19:01 GMT
It can't be the same as the 1950s if only for the reason that all the countries that Britain was closest to then have new trading and security arrangements ad any links that remain are still there for sentimental reasons only. In the 1950s the Commonwealth - actually the white dominions - was a core element of British national identity. It's what enabled us to sit at the top tables.
But all that has vanished, never to return, to imagine it can be resurrected is simply delusionary. But that is what many Brexiteers in high places insisted would be happening. 'Global Britain', I believe the phrase was, as meaningless and ephemeral as Blair's 'Cool Britannia'. Look how well that turned out.
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 27, 2023 16:58:21 GMT
Well personally I dont want to sit at the top table - but thats just me. I'd be quite happy to get on with trading around the globe and letting others do as they wish.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 30, 2023 10:09:53 GMT
Well as being in the EU for 40 years was not solving the UK's chronic woes, then perhaps time to try something different? It's not really something different though is it. It's a forlorn effort to return to the status quo ante circa 1955 when Britain was still a global power and had good friends in faraway places.
But none of that exists in the 21st century despite the best efforts of our political leaders to resuscitate it.
They have lost their woke minds and the rest of the world laughs at us. More like the best effort to destroy us.
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