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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 18, 2023 10:02:33 GMT
According to a report in the Times, a book published in 2008 by the Royal Collections Trust Ancient and Modern Gems and Jewels includes no fewer than forty instances of the 'N-word'. Although now out of print the book-catalogue continued to appear on the RCT website until abruptly removed last week.
"...Kim Johnson, Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside and a member of the all-party parliamentary group on race, told the Independent: “There are those who will say the use of such terms is innocuous — an accurate reflection of a bygone era.
“But every black British person today is painfully aware of the legacy of such language, in terms of their ongoing treatment, institutional racism and the policies of the modern British state.”
No not that N-word by the way, but this one:
"One brooch was described as: “Head of a negro in three-quarter profile to the right, with drop-pearl earring. This type of a negro’s head is found on several 16th-century cameos.” and "Another description of an item depicting a Caucasian person said: “Although it uses the dark layers of the stone for the profile, the features are not negroid.”
Ever get the feeling you're living in a madhouse in the middle of a minefield?
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 18, 2023 11:40:28 GMT
I'm pretty sure that if everyone from journalists to government departments can avoid using a term generally regarded as archaic at best, and offensive at worst (without any alternatives used being either confusing or grammatically challenging), this team of writers could, too.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 18, 2023 11:48:24 GMT
In mitigation the catalogue in question was published fifteen years ago in the pre-BLM era.
Should collections and libraries now be generally purged of any works that still contain such assaults on modern sensibilities?
What other 'bad word' candidates would you also like to see deleted from the historical record?
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Post by Handyman on Jul 20, 2023 7:56:00 GMT
According to a report in the Times, a book published in 2008 by the Royal Collections Trust Ancient and Modern Gems and Jewels includes no fewer than forty instances of the 'N-word'. Although now out of print the book-catalogue continued to appear on the RCT website until abruptly removed last week.
"...Kim Johnson, Labour MP for Liverpool Riverside and a member of the all-party parliamentary group on race, told the Independent: “There are those who will say the use of such terms is innocuous — an accurate reflection of a bygone era.
“But every black British person today is painfully aware of the legacy of such language, in terms of their ongoing treatment, institutional racism and the policies of the modern British state.”
No not that N-word by the way, but this one:
"One brooch was described as: “Head of a negro in three-quarter profile to the right, with drop-pearl earring. This type of a negro’s head is found on several 16th-century cameos.” and "Another description of an item depicting a Caucasian person said: “Although it uses the dark layers of the stone for the profile, the features are not negroid.”
Ever get the feeling you're living in a madhouse in the middle of a minefield?
Yes I do , that was the language used at the time , no matter how some try they cannot change history tell it as it is
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 20, 2023 9:28:04 GMT
In mitigation the catalogue in question was published fifteen years ago in the pre-BLM era.
Should collections and libraries now be generally purged of any works that still contain such assaults on modern sensibilities?
What other 'bad word' candidates would you also like to see deleted from the historical record?
I have a problem with the word faggot. As you know a faggot is a bundle of sticks bound together. Some of you may know that the word faggot comes from the latin word fasci which was the Roman word for a bundle of sticks. The fasci became part of the iconography of Rome and you can often find the little bundle of sticks depicted in architecture, sculptures, murals etc. To the Romans the fasci represented the power gained by being tightly bound together as a single unit with a single cause. So when Mussolini came along he also adopted the fasci as a symbol of strength in unity and named his movement the fascists after it. So I propose that in order to avoid accidental offence we should make it a rule that you can't say fascists are faggots even though they are.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2023 9:56:31 GMT
In mitigation the catalogue in question was published fifteen years ago in the pre-BLM era.
Should collections and libraries now be generally purged of any works that still contain such assaults on modern sensibilities?
What other 'bad word' candidates would you also like to see deleted from the historical record?
I have a problem with the word faggot. As you know a faggot is a bundle of sticks bound together. Some of you may know that the word faggot comes from the latin word fasci which was the Roman word for a bundle of sticks. The fasci became part of the iconography of Rome and you can often find the little bundle of sticks depicted in architecture, sculptures, murals etc. To the Romans the fasci represented the power gained by being tightly bound together as a single unit with a single cause. So when Mussolini came along he also adopted the fasci as a symbol of strength in unity and named his movement the fascists after it. So I propose that in order to avoid accidental offence we should make it a rule that you can't say fascists are faggots even though they are. I thought they were spicy meatballs. But then I thought the crown jewels was a euphemism, so what do I know?
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 20, 2023 10:14:42 GMT
I have a problem with the word faggot. As you know a faggot is a bundle of sticks bound together. Some of you may know that the word faggot comes from the latin word fasci which was the Roman word for a bundle of sticks. The fasci became part of the iconography of Rome and you can often find the little bundle of sticks depicted in architecture, sculptures, murals etc. To the Romans the fasci represented the power gained by being tightly bound together as a single unit with a single cause. So when Mussolini came along he also adopted the fasci as a symbol of strength in unity and named his movement the fascists after it. So I propose that in order to avoid accidental offence we should make it a rule that you can't say fascists are faggots even though they are. I thought they were spicy meatballs. But then I thought the crown jewels was a euphemism, so what do I know? That's a different kind of faggot. They need Brain's.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 20, 2023 12:06:15 GMT
Dead black person storage scene, from multi award winning film - Pulp Fiction.
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