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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 13:29:30 GMT
For interest's sake, I provide a link to the coronation today of the new Zulu King and as you will be having a coronation of Charles III soon, some might like to comment on monarchy and how this knits people together and gives them culture, folk identity and pride.
I know some will simply see this as "tribalism" but in truth it is nationalism. The Zulus are a vast nation with a rather spectacular heritage and a royal family peppered with as much intrigue and scandal as any other. Personally, I love to see this as the people get out there in their costumery and reinvent themselves every time a new monarch arrives. It seems to be something inherent in humans.
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 29, 2022 14:47:45 GMT
Great pictures.
What % of the population are from the Zulu tribe?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2022 5:47:04 GMT
Apparently about 22% of the population. Many are also mixed with other nations. Their homeland is KwaZulu/Natal but many came up to Gauteng Province to work on the mines, so they are quite dispersed. A very proud nation still. As you can see.
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Post by jeg er on Oct 30, 2022 15:36:26 GMT
Apparently about 22% of the population. Many are also mixed with other nations. Their homeland is KwaZulu/Natal but many came up to Gauteng Province to work on the mines, so they are quite dispersed. A very proud nation still. As you can see. i am surprised they never wanted their own country |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 30, 2022 15:39:33 GMT
Apparently about 22% of the population. Many are also mixed with other nations. Their homeland is KwaZulu/Natal but many came up to Gauteng Province to work on the mines, so they are quite dispersed. A very proud nation still. As you can see. i am surprised they never wanted their own country You never heard of Isandlwana? |
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Post by jeg er on Oct 30, 2022 15:48:13 GMT
i am surprised they never wanted their own country You never heard of Isandlwana? i have heard of it |
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Post by Montegriffo on Oct 30, 2022 16:21:17 GMT
You never heard of Isandlwana? i have heard of it Well that was the Zulu wanting to have their own kingdom. |
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Post by jeg er on Oct 30, 2022 16:42:18 GMT
Well that was the Zulu wanting to have their own kingdom. indeed it was. I was thinking more in terms of the subsequent century, particularly since the white dictatorship finished. Even during apartheid none of the black resistance campaign centred on independent nations for zulu and xhosa for example. I would have though they would have hankered for kingdoms like the Swazi. Maybe it is something vanna can tell us about |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 3:55:01 GMT
The various tribes already had homelands that had been sectioned off by the apartheid government. They were semi-autonomous if I remember correctly. They were a flop because you can't just do that without careful planning. That is why today there are Xhosas in the western Cape. They came in in buses as migrants from the homeland in the eastern Cape. Kwa-Zulu/Natal is today basically thought of as the Zulu homeland, They had a vast kingdom before the whites came and Mzilikazi founded colonies all the way to present day Zimbabwe. The whites overcame them the same way they overcame other nations round the world. The whites had advanced weaponry. The Zulus had already reached the iron age when whites landed. The inter tribal wars caused what was called an "empty land" situation into which the whites moved. Warfare has this terrible side effect. It destroys the people fighting to such an extent, they are often overpowered by others who come in on the disaster that has befallen the previous land occupiers.
It will happen again in our own time if something isn't done to stop the present inane situation from escalating out of an historical enmity between America and Russia and America and China and Christian and secular. We seem to learn nothing from history. Our idiot greed and gung-ho religious belief that some deity has designated us winners will save our sorry skins. The newer ideologies of woke and its predecessors are similar. These won't save us. They don't exist and the horrors that visited human ancestry will revisit us.
Unless someone can find it in themselves to stop being a puppet of those who have plans that don't include us but do wish to utilize us because we are such gullible disciples of almost every fantasy that has been foisted on us for centuries.
The Zulus will survive because they still have national pride. Even though many are ANC and not Inkhata, they are still Zulu. That fires them up to defend themselves. Fortunately no one has yet succeeded in breaking this bond between people and heritage, although some have tried with the slur of "the cancer of tribalism" that was slipped into the Marxist consciousness by social engineers. Africans, I have noticed, are not as keen to swallow things Europeans seem to gob down willingly without question. It's as though Africans still have some vestige of giving stupid ideas the finger.
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