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Post by Veronika on May 30, 2024 19:45:41 GMT
Dear ProVeritas,
Thank you for your analysis. And all the best to you also. But I wonder about your view of whether David Cameron deserves to be punished. Let us face it, I'm sure that a lot of people would like to see his backside being thrashed in public.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by ProVeritas on May 30, 2024 19:56:43 GMT
Dear ProVeritas, Thank you for your analysis. And all the best to you also. But I wonder about your view of whether David Cameron deserves to be punished. Let us face it, I'm sure that a lot of people would like to see his backside being thrashed in public. Veronika Oleksychenko If he deserves punishment it should be done following the dure process of law. As to public flogging; not my my place to comment on your particular fetishes. All The Best |
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Post by Veronika on May 31, 2024 16:18:10 GMT
Dear ProVeritas,
It is not like my "fetish" for David Cameron to be flogged. Absolutely not. But Cameron would probably understand and respect a good thrashing. It seems like an appropriate form of punishment for someone from his background of great privilege and tradition, who perhaps wanted to become the Prime Minister because playing the game of politics was simply something entertaining to do for a while.
But he then ran away when things did not go his way with the Referendum. One question is: If Lord Cameron did not think he was fit to be Prime Minister anymore, why did he more recently think that it was okay for him to be Foreign Secretary, one of the very biggest jobs in the government?
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by ProVeritas on May 31, 2024 19:19:55 GMT
Dear ProVeritas, It is not like my "fetish" for David Cameron to be flogged. Absolutely not. But Cameron would probably understand and respect a good thrashing. It seems like an appropriate form of punishment for someone from his background of great privilege and tradition, who perhaps wanted to become the Prime Minister because playing the game of politics was simply something entertaining to do for a while. But he then ran away when things did not go his way with the Referendum. One question is: If Lord Cameron did not think he was fit to be Prime Minister anymore, why did he more recently think that it was okay for him to be Foreign Secretary, one of the very biggest jobs in the government? Veronika Oleksychenko Don't see anyone else starting threads about it, do you? All The Best |
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Post by Hutchyns on May 31, 2024 22:41:49 GMT
Veronika
My guess is that Cameron decided the only honourable course of action was to resign given the Brexit Referendum result. Going from memory didn't the Marks & Spencer bloke, Stuart Rose, make such a hash of leading the Remain campaign that he got chucked out part way through, and Cameron basically became chief Remain campaigner from then on through to Referendum day. Wouldn't it have been the height of absurdity to have the very person leading Project Fear and telling us leaving would be a disaster, to then be the person who we relied on to make a success of it ? ...when we would all have been painfully aware that his heart wasn't in it, nor his brain .... as he freely admitted there were absolutely no plans made at Government level to cater for a 'Leave' victory.
As for his recent appointment, how much ability do you need to parrot the foreign policy of the United States on each and every issue ? Extremely well paid with lots of luxury foreign travel. I follow the Foreign Office on Flickr ..... it was just page after page of James Cleverly visiting sunny countries enjoying lavish dinners, sight seeing, and reminding a few local diplomats to keep doing what the Americans tell them. It's a cushy non job which after several years kicking his heels with boredom in Oxfordshire, Cameron must be enjoying ...... here's the American script, go read it out occasionally in the House of Lords or wherever the US/NATO message has to be delivered ... money for old rope for our Dave.
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Post by ProVeritas on May 31, 2024 23:52:45 GMT
Veronika My guess is that Cameron decided the only honourable course of action was to resign given the Brexit Referendum result. Going from memory didn't the Marks & Spencer bloke, Stuart Rose, make such a hash of leading the Remain campaign that he got chucked out part way through, and Cameron basically became chief Remain campaigner from then on through to Referendum day. Wouldn't it have been the height of absurdity to have the very person leading Project Fear and telling us leaving would be a disaster, to then be the person who we relied on to make a success of it ? ...when we would all have been painfully aware that his heart wasn't in it, nor his brain .... as he freely admitted there were absolutely no plans made at Government level to cater for a 'Leave' victory. As for his recent appointment, how much ability do you need to parrot the foreign policy of the United States on each and every issue ? Extremely well paid with lots of luxury foreign travel. I follow the Foreign Office on Flickr ..... it was just page after page of James Cleverly visiting sunny countries enjoying lavish dinners, sight seeing, and reminding a few local diplomats to keep doing what the Americans tell them. It's a cushy non job which after several years kicking his heels with boredom in Oxfordshire, Cameron must be enjoying ...... here's the American script, go read it out occasionally in the House of Lords or wherever the US/NATO message has to be delivered ... money for old rope for our Dave. David Cameron? Honourable?! PMSL All The Best |
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Post by Hutchyns on Jun 1, 2024 8:17:40 GMT
Pro Veritas
No that's not what I said. Me or anyone else could be convinced Lord Cameron can be less than honourable for 99% of the time, yet still point out a single instance where the honourable course has been followed. Hope that answers your questions.
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Post by Veronika on Jun 1, 2024 17:18:53 GMT
Dear ProVeritas,
As I said, it is not my "fetish" for David Cameron to be flogged. In reply you wrote "Don't see anyone else starting threads about it, do you?" But just because no one else may have written a thread about whether Lord Cameron should be flogged does not mean that the subject is my fetish or that I am obsessed with it. And the basic reason for this thread is to discuss whether Cameron deserves punishment and what form the punishment should be.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by ProVeritas on Jun 1, 2024 20:21:30 GMT
Dear ProVeritas, As I said, it is not my "fetish" for David Cameron to be flogged. In reply you wrote "Don't see anyone else starting threads about it, do you?" But just because no one else may have written a thread about whether Lord Cameron should be flogged does not mean that the subject is my fetish or that I am obsessed with it. And the basic reason for this thread is to discuss whether Cameron deserves punishment and what form the punishment should be. Veronika Oleksychenko He was punished. By the electorate. We rejected his vision of the country's future. All The Best |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 1, 2024 20:52:16 GMT
Veronika My guess is that Cameron decided the only honourable course of action was to resign given the Brexit Referendum result. Going from memory didn't the Marks & Spencer bloke, Stuart Rose, make such a hash of leading the Remain campaign that he got chucked out part way through, and Cameron basically became chief Remain campaigner from then on through to Referendum day. Wouldn't it have been the height of absurdity to have the very person leading Project Fear and telling us leaving would be a disaster, to then be the person who we relied on to make a success of it ? ...when we would all have been painfully aware that his heart wasn't in it, nor his brain .... as he freely admitted there were absolutely no plans made at Government level to cater for a 'Leave' victory. As for his recent appointment, how much ability do you need to parrot the foreign policy of the United States on each and every issue ? Extremely well paid with lots of luxury foreign travel. I follow the Foreign Office on Flickr ..... it was just page after page of James Cleverly visiting sunny countries enjoying lavish dinners, sight seeing, and reminding a few local diplomats to keep doing what the Americans tell them. It's a cushy non job which after several years kicking his heels with boredom in Oxfordshire, Cameron must be enjoying ...... here's the American script, go read it out occasionally in the House of Lords or wherever the US/NATO message has to be delivered ... money for old rope for our Dave. I understand where you’re coming from with your opening line, byt the oily airbrushed one made a HUGE thing about being on the euro star train the day of the result to bring tbe verdict to brussels in person and i should have been able to count on mocking him doing that |
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Post by Veronika on Aug 26, 2024 16:16:27 GMT
Dear johnofgwent,
If Lord David Cameron was flogged in this moment then he may at least appreciate such a thing as a way to gain some further attention and publicity, now that he is surely out of government for good. A very public thrashing may actually allow the way for him to secure another top job, either in Britain or Europe.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by johnofgwent on Aug 31, 2024 6:28:22 GMT
Veronika My guess is that Cameron decided the only honourable course of action was to resign given the Brexit Referendum result. Going from memory didn't the Marks & Spencer bloke, Stuart Rose, make such a hash of leading the Remain campaign that he got chucked out part way through, and Cameron basically became chief Remain campaigner from then on through to Referendum day. Wouldn't it have been the height of absurdity to have the very person leading Project Fear and telling us leaving would be a disaster, to then be the person who we relied on to make a success of it ? ...when we would all have been painfully aware that his heart wasn't in it, nor his brain .... as he freely admitted there were absolutely no plans made at Government level to cater for a 'Leave' victory. As for his recent appointment, how much ability do you need to parrot the foreign policy of the United States on each and every issue ? Extremely well paid with lots of luxury foreign travel. I follow the Foreign Office on Flickr ..... it was just page after page of James Cleverly visiting sunny countries enjoying lavish dinners, sight seeing, and reminding a few local diplomats to keep doing what the Americans tell them. It's a cushy non job which after several years kicking his heels with boredom in Oxfordshire, Cameron must be enjoying ...... here's the American script, go read it out occasionally in the House of Lords or wherever the US/NATO message has to be delivered ... money for old rope for our Dave. I vehemently disagree honour had anything to do with it As I have mentioned before I was on the A46 just outside Bath heading up towards the M4J18 when Radio 4's PM programme carried Cameron's words that if the next election returned a majority conservative government, he would deliver within that parliament blah blah He made it crystal clear he would be campaigning with every ounce of body and soul to remain in the EU He then on many subsequent occasions made it clear the very day after the referendum was held he would take it to Brussels and deliver it in person The HONOURABLE course would have been to DO just that, to stick to his word and deliver the message to the EU in person and THEN declare he was not the man to see that through. He might as well have made that declaration in Brussels. As the EU's biggest pork producer they might have found him a pig to pleasure himself with to get over the rejection. No, he was a slimy piece of shit with no honour and no gravitas |
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