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Post by johnofgwent on Nov 10, 2023 16:31:05 GMT
Dear johnofgwent, Do you mean that there are 500 politicians who must be thrashed? Or just 500 general people of all kinds? And please name some of those people who are "whip-worthy" as you say. Veronika Oleksychenko some years ago an acquaintance of mine ran a blog entitled ‘liars, buggers and thieves’ It documented the many criminal activities of elected politicians of all altitudes local council to strasbourg/brussels MEP’s across much of the political spectrum He gave up updating it some time ago but i feel it did in its active period show most public offices to be, as Old Ben Kenobi said of Mos Eisley Spaceport … ‘You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy’ |
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Post by Veronika on Nov 15, 2023 17:04:44 GMT
Dear jonksy,
You say that Blair must also be thrashed and I have to agree. Apparently there is talk of Blair now being appointed as a "peacekeeper" of the Middle East, which would be quite a ridiculous thing.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by Veronika on Nov 18, 2023 18:55:24 GMT
Dear johnofgwent,
You suggest that many politicians are like criminals. And that there are many who deserve to be thrashed more than Cameron. But Cameron is now back in the big time of politics, as the Foreign Secretary.
So he must go before the public and show his penance to the nation.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by sheepy on Nov 18, 2023 19:22:28 GMT
I tend to judge politicians by how much they would be missed if say a large bomb landed on Parliament, I am thinking call me Dave wouldn't make the top 100.
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Post by Veronika on Dec 19, 2023 0:17:08 GMT
Dear sheepy,
But surely David Cameron is the most significant and also the most floggable British politician of the last 20 years. Or perhaps there is someone else who you would prefer to see thrashed, like Blair or Boris.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 3, 2024 22:43:25 GMT
Dear sheepy, But surely David Cameron is the most significant and also the most floggable British politician of the last 20 years. Or perhaps there is someone else who you would prefer to see thrashed, like Blair or Boris. Veronika Oleksychenko I suppose the question is on what basis ? Peter Mandelson lied on his mortgage application, committed fraud in doing so, caused a hitherto reasonably decent man to lose his cabinet job through involvement in this fraud and caused an utter idiot even worse than abbott to be promoted to a post beyond her competence…. He seems an excellent choice for the whip. And worse. |
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Post by Veronika on Mar 23, 2024 16:12:39 GMT
Dear johnofgwent,
As you are now talking about flogging veteran Labour politicians, how could Peter Mandelson possibly be caned while Tony Blair continues to be free and unpunished for his crimes?
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 27, 2024 8:15:33 GMT
Dear johnofgwent, As you are now talking about flogging veteran Labour politicians, how could Peter Mandelson possibly be caned while Tony Blair continues to be free and unpunished for his crimes? Veronika Oleksychenko You seem awfully fixated upon seeing Blair flogged ? As I said about six posts back, a former professional acquaintance and drinking pal with whom I lost touch after the Chinese pox maintained a website recording the accounts of public exposure through the court system of convictions of politicians of all views and parties, at all levels from parish council to house of lords. He went out of his way to record all he found regardless of level of public office and particularly regardless of political leaning I would happy see each subjected to physical punishment in public view and even more happily volunteer my time to carry out such, should the opportunity arise. Exact details of what, when, where and for what duration are matters that can and should be debated and fixed on the basis of the crime, not the individual. But in answer to should person x, y or z be among those to suffer, I make no specific suggestions save that it be a matter for the public. The point of course being public exposure to physical punishment for wrongdoing would in my view because significant deterrent, but also a powerful motivator for absolute secrecy in such wrongdoings. A public official in a modern day post of Witch Finder General needs must be appointed, with the proviso that evidence of such a person being guilty of such crimes themselves being a hanging matter This should restore the much tilted balance of persecutor and persecuted back from it's current Orwellian status to the point where our politicians are once again afraid of us as they should be |
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Post by Veronika on Apr 26, 2024 14:50:48 GMT
Dear johnofgwent,
You say that public exposure while receiving physical punishment would be a "significant deterrent" for politicians. And to have Lord Cameron basically flogged naked in a prominent place would surely lead "to the point where our politicians are once again afraid of us as they should be", as you also claim.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by Veronika on May 20, 2024 9:42:22 GMT
Dear Forumers,
It seems that the more we hear from David Cameron, the more he may deserve to basically be flogged. He has quite a cheek really, and it is crazy that he is "Lord" Cameron these days. What has he done to deserve that? Perhaps after the general election he will just go back to his "posh man cave shed" thing at the bottom of his garden and show more photographs of his feet to the public.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by jonksy on May 21, 2024 19:29:46 GMT
Dear Forumers, After the Referendum result in 2016 David Cameron just buggered off basically, and he did nothing to try to help sort things out. Even though it was his big idea to have the Referendum in the first place. He claimed it was about giving people a democratic choice, which was just nonsense of course. He was scared of rebellion within his party, and of UKIP winning all of his party's seats. And he assumed that it would be a vote for Remain. But his Project Fear backfired. A large majority of MPs were actually against Brexit, so you must wonder why they ever agreed to have the Referendum when public opinion was so divided and the result uncertain. But like Cameron, they also assumed that the public could be flustered into Remaining. So Cameron may deserve to be punished for quitting and disappearing like that straight after the result. He could be walked through the streets, perhaps naked to show his penance to the nation, and then flogged in a prominent place, such as Trafalgar Square, or in the garden in front of Parliament. Veronika Oleksychenko EUSSR could have power to block British visitors from entering Gibraltar.....No thanks to cameron of course.....Wait and see his true colours emenrge when labour infests the HOC... |
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Post by sheepy on May 22, 2024 9:11:25 GMT
Dear sheepy, But surely David Cameron is the most significant and also the most floggable British politician of the last 20 years. Or perhaps there is someone else who you would prefer to see thrashed, like Blair or Boris. Veronika Oleksychenko Don't be so sure, who would buy him? The yanks might put in a bid, Israel has no need he does what they tell him anyway, so need for them to offer up a cash offer. |
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Post by ProVeritas on May 23, 2024 12:22:18 GMT
Dear Forumers, After the Referendum result in 2016 David Cameron just buggered off basically, and he did nothing to try to help sort things out. Even though it was his big idea to have the Referendum in the first place. He claimed it was about giving people a democratic choice, which was just nonsense of course. He was scared of rebellion within his party, and of UKIP winning all of his party's seats. And he assumed that it would be a vote for Remain. But his Project Fear backfired. A large majority of MPs were actually against Brexit, so you must wonder why they ever agreed to have the Referendum when public opinion was so divided and the result uncertain. But like Cameron, they also assumed that the public could be flustered into Remaining. So Cameron may deserve to be punished for quitting and disappearing like that straight after the result. He could be walked through the streets, perhaps naked to show his penance to the nation, and then flogged in a prominent place, such as Trafalgar Square, or in the garden in front of Parliament. Veronika Oleksychenko The referendum wasn't Cameron's idea, it was Farage's. Cameron gave in due to increasing pressure from UKIP who were polling 12.7% of the vote and could no longer be ignored. Cameron campaigned to remain in the EU. In reality, Public Opinion wasn't that divided either. Leave was always going to win; it was only a matter of by how much. I genuinely think it only just scraped thought because so many who supported Leave thought it was a done-deal and decided they didn't need to vote, as it was obvious Leave was going to win. Almost bit them in the bum. All The Best |
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Post by Veronika on May 26, 2024 17:30:31 GMT
Dear ProVeritas,
I don't think that it was so obvious actually, that Leave would win. The Referendum vote could easily have been for the other way. And Cameron was so sure that the result would be to Remain. But it turned into his big gamble, like the throw of a coin basically.
In this moment, "Lord" Cameron is still the Foreign Secretary, so a public thrashing may not be an appropriate thing in his office and position. But straight after the General Election, if the Conservatives lose it, then Cameron could immediately be taken away and caned in a prominent place.
Veronika Oleksychenko
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Post by ProVeritas on May 26, 2024 18:43:57 GMT
Dear ProVeritas, I don't think that it was so obvious actually, that Leave would win. The Referendum vote could easily have been for the other way. Well, it was to anyone really keeping an eye on things. The majority of people in the UK fall in the bottom two economic quintiles and are "working class". Working Class people had suffered more under our Membership of the EU than any other group. It was inevitable that they would vote for Brexit. The number of voting adults in those bottom 2 quintiles dwarfs the number of voting adults in the top three. It was thus inevitable that Leave would win. Labour (the once traditional party of the working class) were so caught out by the vote because they thought that "working class" vote would always support them, even though NuLab betrayed the working class at almost every opportunity. The Brexit victory and the so called Red Wall defeats that Labour suffered were the direct, and rather obvious, consequences of that continued betrayal. I am a working class guy from a working class family in a predominantly working class area; politics and especially the Brexit Referendum were hot topics of discussion from the moment Cameron announced there would be a referendum. I genuinely did not know one single person who was going to vote Remain. Even a friend who was broadly in favour of Remain voted for Leave because he felt that too often the EU was used as an excuse by MPs for not delivering on promises, he thought it created a domestic democratic deficit - and it did. So while under normal circumstances he would have voted Remain, his belief in democracy won over and he voted Leave. All The Best |
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