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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 3, 2023 18:12:38 GMT
Fewer foreign workers, overseas students and refugees and a cap on council houses for non-Brits: Red Wall New Conservatives group including Lee Anderson demand Rishi Sunak cut immigration by two-thirds before next election. The 12 point plan1. Close temporary schemes that grant eligibility for worker visas to 'care workers' and 'senior care workers' to cut numbers by 82,000. 2. Raise the main skilled work visa salary threshold to £38,000 a year to cut numbers by 54,000. 3. Expand ban on students bringing family to UK from postgraduates to masters students to cut numbers by 75,000. 4. Remove right for graduate students to stay in the UK for two years after their course ends, to cut numbers by 50,000 5. Reserve university Study Visas for the brightest international students and exclude the worst universities from eligibility, to cut numbers by 49,000. 6. Introduce cap on future humanitarian schemes should the predicted 168,000 reductions not be realised. 7. Rapidly pass and implement the provisions of the Illegal Migration Bill to cut numbers by 35,000. 8. Cap the number of refugees legally accepted for resettlement in the UK at 20,000. 9. Raise the minimum combined income threshold to £26,200 for sponsoring a spouse and raise the minimum language requirement. 10. Make the Migration Advisory Committee report on the effect of migration on housing and public services, not just the jobs market. 11. Cap the amount of social housing that Councils can give to non-UK nationals at five per cent until the number of British families waiting for housing clears. 12. Raise the Immigration Health Surcharge to £2,700 per person, per year. A common sense plan that would be instantly popular with the majority of the electorate. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12258275/Red-Wall-New-Conservatives-demand-Rishi-Sunak-cut-immigration-two-thirds-election.html |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 3, 2023 21:58:16 GMT
FFS Red - we have had gazillions of Tory plans over the past 13 years - what we have lacked is delivery.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 4, 2023 1:43:32 GMT
Fewer foreign workers, overseas students and refugees and a cap on council houses for non-Brits: Red Wall New Conservatives group including Lee Anderson demand Rishi Sunak cut immigration by two-thirds before next election. The 12 point plan1. Close temporary schemes that grant eligibility for worker visas to 'care workers' and 'senior care workers' to cut numbers by 82,000. 2. Raise the main skilled work visa salary threshold to £38,000 a year to cut numbers by 54,000. 3. Expand ban on students bringing family to UK from postgraduates to masters students to cut numbers by 75,000. 4. Remove right for graduate students to stay in the UK for two years after their course ends, to cut numbers by 50,000 5. Reserve university Study Visas for the brightest international students and exclude the worst universities from eligibility, to cut numbers by 49,000. 6. Introduce cap on future humanitarian schemes should the predicted 168,000 reductions not be realised. 7. Rapidly pass and implement the provisions of the Illegal Migration Bill to cut numbers by 35,000. 8. Cap the number of refugees legally accepted for resettlement in the UK at 20,000. 9. Raise the minimum combined income threshold to £26,200 for sponsoring a spouse and raise the minimum language requirement. 10. Make the Migration Advisory Committee report on the effect of migration on housing and public services, not just the jobs market. 11. Cap the amount of social housing that Councils can give to non-UK nationals at five per cent until the number of British families waiting for housing clears. 12. Raise the Immigration Health Surcharge to £2,700 per person, per year. A common sense plan that would be instantly popular with the majority of the electorate. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12258275/Red-Wall-New-Conservatives-demand-Rishi-Sunak-cut-immigration-two-thirds-election.htmlI had a brainwave on this the other day. What you do is when you collect stats about immigrants you tot it all up per country. Like for example crime figures, the numbers with post graduate qualifications and all the other important indicators of whether that country is doing us more harm than good. We then use these stats to set a quota, and this quota can go up or down per country according to its score. Like if we are getting loads of illegals from a particular country we knock their quota down, where say on the positive side some county is good to us and brings in a lot of industrial investment where their own people are needed here then they get more on their quota. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 4, 2023 9:18:04 GMT
FFS Red - we have had gazillions of Tory plans over the past 13 years - what we have lacked is delivery. That's because the conservative party, or the parliamentary conservative party at any rate, aren't very Conservative. The MP's who have come up with this 12 point plan are considered to be on the right of the party and they certainly seem to be in a minority, sadly. I agree it's largely stunt, but it will hopefully focus centrist Sunak's attention. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jul 4, 2023 9:33:20 GMT
I had a brainwave on this the other day. What you do is when you collect stats about immigrants you tot it all up per country. Like for example crime figures, the numbers with post graduate qualifications and all the other important indicators of whether that country is doing us more harm than good. We then use these stats to set a quota, and this quota can go up or down per country according to its score. Like if we are getting loads of illegals from a particular country we knock their quota down, where say on the positive side some county is good to us and brings in a lot of industrial investment where their own people are needed here then they get more on their quota. Apologies for picking up on just one point BvL, but have you ever tried to find detailed crime figs for ethnic minorities? It's almost impossible. This info is either not recorded, hidden, or intentionally difficult to find. In 2016 the EU said the ethnicity of criminals must not be revealed if they are Muslims, and in 2020 France, Germany and Sweden banned the inclusion of ethnicity from crime data. The reasons for this will of course be embarrassingly obvious. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2023 9:54:57 GMT
1. Close temporary schemes that grant eligibility for worker visas to 'care workers' and 'senior care workers' to cut numbers by 82,000.
And who works in the care system?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 4, 2023 11:48:42 GMT
I had a brainwave on this the other day. What you do is when you collect stats about immigrants you tot it all up per country. Like for example crime figures, the numbers with post graduate qualifications and all the other important indicators of whether that country is doing us more harm than good. We then use these stats to set a quota, and this quota can go up or down per country according to its score. Like if we are getting loads of illegals from a particular country we knock their quota down, where say on the positive side some county is good to us and brings in a lot of industrial investment where their own people are needed here then they get more on their quota. Apologies for picking up on just one point BvL, but have you ever tried to find detailed crime figs for ethnic minorities? It's almost impossible. This info is either not recorded, hidden, or intentionally difficult to find. In 2016 the EU said the ethnicity of criminals must not be revealed if they are Muslims, and in 2020 France, Germany and Sweden banned the inclusion of ethnicity from crime data. The reasons for this will of course be embarrassingly obvious. Indeed, and for all those who regret leaving the EU, it is times like this that you really appreciate the freedom it gives you. If our government wanted to record country of origin with all crime they could easily do it. It's just one more box on the form. Computers can do it for you even( enter name and computer finds the nationality from its records on that person). Now lets talk about the will to do it with a government who promised it would control immigration. Information is power. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 4, 2023 11:52:30 GMT
1. Close temporary schemes that grant eligibility for worker visas to 'care workers' and 'senior care workers' to cut numbers by 82,000. And who works in the care system? I'm trying hard to figure out where our real British people do work. There is a whole long list of things they don't do as work (dentists, doctors, care work, London underground, lawyers (all Islamic now), IT workers ... Loads of jobs they don't do. Maybe it is discrimination. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 4, 2023 13:23:27 GMT
1. Close temporary schemes that grant eligibility for worker visas to 'care workers' and 'senior care workers' to cut numbers by 82,000. And who works in the care system? Too many abusers, apparently. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2023 13:48:54 GMT
1. Close temporary schemes that grant eligibility for worker visas to 'care workers' and 'senior care workers' to cut numbers by 82,000. And who works in the care system? Too many abusers, apparently. Are we changing the subject? |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 4, 2023 14:06:18 GMT
Too many abusers, apparently. Are we changing the subject? We? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 8:19:24 GMT
Are we changing the subject? We? You then. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2023 9:18:07 GMT
I’m not the one changing the subject . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 10:11:44 GMT
I’m not the one changing the subject . The subject is the "New Conservative 12 point plan". you are talking about people who abuse the system. If you want to talk about that start a topic. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 5, 2023 10:29:44 GMT
I’m not the one changing the subject . The subject is the "New Conservative 12 point plan". you are talking about people who abuse the system. If you want to talk about that start a topic. Your post was about point 1. So was mine . |
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