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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 26, 2023 17:31:29 GMT
Farage can start with suing Coutts for lying to the BBC
Then he can sue the BBC for publishing their lies
Then the BBC can sue Coutts for telling them porkies that they printed.
LOL ... I bet Farage lawyers are rubbing their hands.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 26, 2023 17:37:23 GMT
Farage can start with suing Coutts for lying to the BBC Then he can sue the BBC for publishing their lies Then the BBC can sue Coutts for telling them porkies that they printed. LOL ... I bet Farage lawyers are rubbing their hands. Okay, since when has it been a suable offense to lie? Certainly, he can make a case under the Data Protection Act (for which, he will receive very small damages), but what other recourse does he have? A case under the Discrimination legislation? I suppose he might be able to make a case (it seems doubtful, though). But even if he succeeds, he will only get a small award in damages. Wouldn't his time be more profitably spent ripping off people like you with four-line video messages at £80 a pop? Surely, he would make more from that than the mere £13,000 (at best) he stands to gain from litigation. And I also bet that Farage's lawyers are rubbing their hands. They'll get paid whether they win or lose. |
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Post by Orac on Jul 26, 2023 17:39:59 GMT
Yes it is. You could only be charged with acting illegally. The opinion itself would not be a crime. As an example - If a policeman takes you in for questioning and under interrogation you reveal such an opinion, you have committed no crime. Try expressing that political opinion in public or on any form of media and will find yourself charged with incitement to violence and incitement to racial hatred. It is an illegal political opinion in the UK. No it's not. The opinion itself is not illegal. There are ways it could be expressed illegally, |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 17:45:55 GMT
Try expressing that political opinion in public or on any form of media and will find yourself charged with incitement to violence and incitement to racial hatred. It is an illegal political opinion in the UK. No it's not. The opinion itself is not illegal. There are ways it could be expressed illegally, Any way of expressing it would be illegal. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 26, 2023 17:46:20 GMT
Farage can start with suing Coutts for lying to the BBC Then he can sue the BBC for publishing their lies Then the BBC can sue Coutts for telling them porkies that they printed. LOL ... I bet Farage lawyers are rubbing their hands. Okay, since when has it been a suable offense to lie? Certainly, he can make a case under the Data Protection Act (for which, he will receive very small damages), but what other recourse does he have? A case under the Discrimination legislation? I suppose he might be able to make a case (it seems doubtful, though). But even if he succeeds, he will only get a small award in damages. Wouldn't his time be more profitably spent ripping off people like you with four-line video messages at £80 a pop? Surely, he would make more from that than the mere £13,000 (at best) he stands to gain from litigation. And I also bet that Farage's lawyers are rubbing their hands. They'll get paid whether they win or lose. I'm not repeating it again Darling, just wait and see, then you will get back to me and say ... hey you were right.
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Post by Orac on Jul 26, 2023 17:47:14 GMT
No it's not. The opinion itself is not illegal. There are ways it could be expressed illegally, Any way of expressing it would be illegal. Wrong - i gave an example. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 26, 2023 17:49:34 GMT
Okay, since when has it been a suable offense to lie? Certainly, he can make a case under the Data Protection Act (for which, he will receive very small damages), but what other recourse does he have? A case under the Discrimination legislation? I suppose he might be able to make a case (it seems doubtful, though). But even if he succeeds, he will only get a small award in damages. Wouldn't his time be more profitably spent ripping off people like you with four-line video messages at £80 a pop? Surely, he would make more from that than the mere £13,000 (at best) he stands to gain from litigation. And I also bet that Farage's lawyers are rubbing their hands. They'll get paid whether they win or lose. I'm not repeating it again Darling, just wait and see, then you will get back to me and say ... hey you were right.
I might get back to you agreeing that Farage is suing. But if he does sue, it's very unlikely to be on the grounds you've stated. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 17:54:58 GMT
Any way of expressing it would be illegal. Wrong - i gave an example. I'd be interested in seeing how that went. Especially if the policeman was Jewish. |
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Post by Orac on Jul 26, 2023 18:01:45 GMT
Wrong - i gave an example. I'd be interested in seeing how that went. Especially if the policeman was Jewish. It's possible to express such an opinion in such a way as to commit a crime, but I doubt being questioned on his opinion by a policeman (or court proceedings) could count. One thing you can be sure of is he wont' be charged with 'holding an illegal opinion'. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 26, 2023 18:07:22 GMT
Pepe having to give evidence under oath in order to prove ''disingenuous grifter'' is libelous? Talk about threatening me with having a good time. If Farage does sue there is absolutely no way that NatWest will want it to go to court and have to defend their actions. It will be a secret deal with a non-disclosure agreement and a payoff to Farage to make it all go away. Yep, spot on. Ignore Wheiney-Bollocks, there's no way this is going to court. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 26, 2023 18:13:08 GMT
Not sure that political views is a protected characteristic? Beliefs? Freedom of Expression? We are still bound by the ECHR, as the leftards love to point out, and NatWest is still 40% nationalised (aka a public body). |
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 26, 2023 18:13:23 GMT
If Farage does sue there is absolutely no way that NatWest will want it to go to court and have to defend their actions. It will be a secret deal with a non-disclosure agreement and a payoff to Farage to make it all go away. Yep, spot on Ignore Wheiney-Bollocks, there's no way this is going to court. Well, I don't imagine there's much point if he he only has discrimination and the Data Protection Act to base his claim. Hardly seems worth his time when gammons like you are prepared to pay him £80 for a minute-long video. He would probably lose money, considering the time he would have to dedicate to preparing the case. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 26, 2023 18:16:02 GMT
Pepe having to give evidence under oath in order to prove ''disingenuous grifter'' is libelous? Talk about threatening me with having a good time. If Farage does sue there is absolutely no way that NatWest will want it to go to court and have to defend their actions. It will be a secret deal with a non-disclosure agreement and a payoff to Farage to make it all go away. True, but he doesn't have to accept any secret deals, Farage has the chance to publicly expose the bank, if it's about money he'll do a deal, if he genuinely wants to expose the bank he'll go all the way, the odds are they will withdraw any financial offer that was on the table, and he could end up with a big legal bill himself, but it will be interesting to see how it pans out. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 26, 2023 18:17:04 GMT
If Farage does sue there is absolutely no way that NatWest will want it to go to court and have to defend their actions. It will be a secret deal with a non-disclosure agreement and a payoff to Farage to make it all go away. True, but he doesn't have to accept any secret deals, Farage has the chance to publicly expose the bank, if it's about money he'll do a deal, if he genuinely wants to expose the bank he'll go all the way, the odds are they will withdraw any financial offer that was on the table, and he could end up with a big legal bill himself, but it will be interesting to see how it pans out. Publicly expose the bank? How can the bank be further exposed? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 26, 2023 18:18:21 GMT
True, but he doesn't have to accept any secret deals, Farage has the chance to publicly expose the bank, if it's about money he'll do a deal, if he genuinely wants to expose the bank he'll go all the way, the odds are they will withdraw any financial offer that was on the table, and he could end up with a big legal bill himself, but it will be interesting to see how it pans out. Publicly expose the bank? How can the bank be further exposed? Why wont it, if he takes them to court they have to put up a defense, and Farage puts his case forward, how do you think it will work? |
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