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Post by om15 on Jul 26, 2023 11:31:15 GMT
Can you give any reason why Mr Farage might have brought Coutts into disrepute? In any event they seem to be bringing themselves into disrepute without any assistance from Mr Farage don't you think?
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 11:33:22 GMT
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 11:34:44 GMT
Don't troll me. You are already on 100% warning. Yes, exactly. You can come down off your cross now. We have removed your warning.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 11:39:49 GMT
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Post by Orac on Jul 26, 2023 11:40:58 GMT
Let's not get carried away here. A company is perfectly within its rights to refuse service to anyone who they consider is bringing disrepute to them. The wrongdoing was discussing his bank details not closing his account. Hobo Nige isn't getting his millionaire's account back and the bank isn't apologising for shutting it down only for telling the BBC that he's too poor to be in the rich person club. In principle you would be correct if we had a free market in banking. While I often advocate a free market, It is pretty clear that the UK banking sector is not remotely close to this ideal. This means banks and regulators hold some portion of monopoly/cartel power over UK people in provision allowed. The real problem here was an attempt to use this power to politically target someone who had done nothing but disagree with them politically. If you want me to go into further detail on why this monopoly power exists and why it is salient to the issue, i'd be happy to. The monopoly power and the implicit vector for corruption created by barriers to entry / regulation, is one of the key arguments against regulation.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 11:41:45 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Jul 26, 2023 11:42:02 GMT
Back when I was at school I was nothing like the man I am now.
Judge Nigel by who he is today not what was supposedly said about him when he was a child at Dulwich College.
He is the man who destroyed the BNP, destroyed the far right in the UK, destroyed an establishment culture of Europhilia and made us into a less racist and more outward looking country.
Gone is the racist passport based system of immigration and in is a system of economic migration based on who the person is, what they can do, rather than where they come from.
The man deserves a Knighthood.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 26, 2023 11:44:45 GMT
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Post by Vinny on Jul 26, 2023 11:45:43 GMT
The poster wasn't racist, wasn't based on 1930s nonsense, it was based on the 1979 Labour isn't working poster by Saatchi and Saatchi. That symbolised high unemployment. His symbolised unsustainably high immigration levels. And no matter what one's feelings on immigration, we're a small island, no matter how kind we are, we cannot take everyone who wants to come here. It isn't racist to be concerned about the scale of immigration.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 11:45:48 GMT
Let's not get carried away here. A company is perfectly within its rights to refuse service to anyone who they consider is bringing disrepute to them. The wrongdoing was discussing his bank details not closing his account. Hobo Nige isn't getting his millionaire's account back and the bank isn't apologising for shutting it down only for telling the BBC that he's too poor to be in the rich person club. In principle you would be correct if we had a free market in banking. While I often advocate a free market, It is pretty clear that the UK banking sector is not remotely close to this ideal. This means banks and regulators hold some portion of monopoly/cartel power over UK people in provision allowed. The real problem here was an attempt to use this power to politically target someone who had done nothing but disagree with them politically. If you want me to go into further detail on why this monopoly power exists and why it is salient to the issue, i'd be happy to. The monopoly power and the implicit vector for corruption created by barriers to entry / regulation, is one of the key arguments against regulation. Not just in principle. Until racist xenophobes become a protected minority the bank is perfectly entitled to disassociate themselves with him.
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 26, 2023 11:46:35 GMT
The poster wasn't racist, wasn't based on 1930s nonsense, it was based on the 1979 Labour isn't working poster by Saatchi and Saatchi. That symbolised high unemployment. His symbolised unsustainably high immigration levels. And no matter what one's feelings on immigration, we're a small island, no matter how kind we are, we cannot take everyone who wants to come here. It isn't racist to be concerned about the scale of immigration. Bullshit.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 26, 2023 11:47:19 GMT
The man deserves a Knighthood. He's a Putin enabler. He refused to back EU Russia anti-propaganda measures while in the EU parliament. This was at a time when Putin was murdering people on British streets. In another time, Farage would have ended his life on a gallows.
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Post by Vinny on Jul 26, 2023 11:48:25 GMT
Monte, you're entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree.
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Post by Einhorn on Jul 26, 2023 11:51:37 GMT
Can you give any reason why Mr Farage might have brought Coutts into disrepute? In any event they seem to be bringing themselves into disrepute without any assistance from Mr Farage don't you think? According to Coutts' internal correspondence, the manfrog is popularly perceived as a 'disingenuous grifter'. That's not the kind of image an 'exclusive' bank wants. I don't care for Coutts or the manfrog. Hopefully, they'll destroy each other.
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Post by Orac on Jul 26, 2023 11:53:33 GMT
Monte, you're entitled to your opinion, but I respectfully disagree. Disagreeing is what having a political opinion is all about. You shouldn't you have your bank account closed because you disagree politically with someone. It's the way polite society / democracy has to work. Why is this so tricky for so many on the left?
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