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Post by Toreador on Jul 2, 2023 7:06:35 GMT
No but the banks are happy for the public’s taxes be shared with them when they **** up and are going down,methinks they are beholden to us and not the other way round. Not sure of your point here. The banks don't share personal information of their clients with the public. Are you suggesting they should? They share it with HMRC.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 2, 2023 7:24:29 GMT
Were they all rich and involved in finance as well? No I don't think so, I attempted to scribble them down but I cant write as quickly as someone can speak, and I don't do shorthand. Ok.
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Post by sheepy on Jul 2, 2023 7:27:56 GMT
Not sure of your point here. The banks don't share personal information of their clients with the public. Are you suggesting they should? They share it with HMRC. Who then decide you will have nothing and be happy, except if you have nothing in the first place they are a bit fecked.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 2, 2023 7:30:50 GMT
You're unlikely to see any evidence, banks don't share that sort of thing with the public. They don't share evidence of any of their fuck-ups with anyone short of a court order and even then they often prefer to lose the evidence. Farage could help by inviting them to publish their reasons without fear of prosecution for sharing personal data.
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Post by Toreador on Jul 2, 2023 7:34:09 GMT
They don't share evidence of any of their fuck-ups with anyone short of a court order and even then they often prefer to lose the evidence. Farage could help by inviting them to publish their reasons without fear of prosecution for sharing personal data. Why publish them, why not just write to him with an explanation?
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Post by zanygame on Jul 2, 2023 7:36:06 GMT
Not sure of your point here. The banks don't share personal information of their clients with the public. Are you suggesting they should? They share it with HMRC. Indeed, which might hint as to why his business account was closed. 24,000 bank accounts were closed last year for suspicious activity and suspected money laundering.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 2, 2023 7:37:12 GMT
Farage could help by inviting them to publish their reasons without fear of prosecution for sharing personal data. Why publish them, why not just write to him with an explanation? WE don't know that they haven't. It may be that he disputes their given reason and decided not to share it with the public.
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Post by Toreador on Jul 2, 2023 7:37:27 GMT
Indeed, which might hint as to why his business account was closed. 24,000 bank accounts were closed last year for suspicious activity and suspected money laundering. Suspected and suspicious suggest there was no proof.
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Post by Toreador on Jul 2, 2023 7:38:54 GMT
Why publish them, why not just write to him with an explanation? WE don't know that they haven't. It may be that he disputes their given reason and decided not to share it with the public. Come on Zany, stop looking for escape routes.
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Post by sheepy on Jul 2, 2023 7:39:32 GMT
Why publish them, why not just write to him with an explanation? WE don't know that they haven't. It may be that he disputes their given reason and decided not to share it with the public. Ooh I wonder how many of those were purely politically motivated.
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Post by thomas on Jul 2, 2023 7:51:14 GMT
I cant let you down darling , as i wont be voting labour. My suspicions on starmers brexit motives remain merely that suspicions. I cant help it if you hang on my , and my fellow countrymens every words. Im merely putting two and two together , man who supported stopping demcoracy post 2016 in the commons , and making four .....ie BRINO if he wins power.
As i said mate , your problem isnt the small percentage in scotland. Its the bigger percentage in england wh omake up 82 % of the constituencies at westmsinter , or the 62 % of labour constituencies on england who voted brexit.
Well, that's disappointing. You've been promising Brino for ages and now you're saying it's not certain. We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed, I suppose. well general dynamics , im as certain as i can be without knowing starmers innermost thoughts. Its going to be fun watching starmer , thats of course if he does gain his majority , and im not 100 % sure of that , taking the uk back in to the EU for unity sake.
The english will be spitting feathers at the celtic tail wagging the english dog. Im not sure its going to do much for bwitish comradeship , but what do i know ? Of course darling , i bow in the face of your inescapable logic and infinite wisdom.
I think though most of all im looking forward to starmer for once being put on the spot and trying to govern instead of sitting carping from the sidelines. New labour did a grand job of fucking the uk up last time they were in .....not just their usual tax and spend and leaving the economy in a mess with debt piled high , but the dismantling of the old bwitish unitary state , and of clourse the flooding of the uk with millions of migrants.
I have high hopes for starmer.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 2, 2023 8:14:07 GMT
as a developer of front line software used by customers seeking financial products from a challenger bank, i still can’t understand why people are swallowing the bullshit that this is being done because of their stance on brexit…. Does it matter that much John? they are perceived as not following the chosen path and either get back track and shut up or find themselves in a really difficult place. The answer to that depends on whether you truly understand (a) the reality of the legislation imposed upon the financial industry by the LABOUR government before its demise in 2010 and (b) the even more aggressive follow up legislation imposed with glee by the Conservatives under the influence of the far from liberal Nick Clegg.
If i needed to name it it all, it would require i sit down and watch YET AGAIN the vomit inducing crap video that the Prudential Regulation Authority and the Financial Conduct Authority require, as a condition of my employment, that I sit and digest and take and pass an assessment to prove i have been indoctrinated as part of my job every six months. An optional slide in this video presentation goes into gruesome detail listing the applicable instruments in the UK mainland and each dependent territory (Guernesey, Jersey, the Isle of Man, The Bahamas, The Virgin Islands, The Cayman Islands etc) for those "policing" those areas as the details differ across the world.
But as you might imagine from my words above, I absolutely (wait , is this the mind zone ? DAMN WELL edit no it isn't FUCKING) hate that task.
Firstly because the video treats you like a four year old and secondly because it tries to pretend that by doing as the legislation asks you are an equal partner in the fight by James Bond against evil money laundering.
Now I admit that I am absolutely unique among the employees of the company i work for, but also one of a very, very small number in the industry worldwide who know - because we were ourselves conned by them - that those very people this video pretends are the good guys are in fact the very people who set up the quite illegal middle man company to which my first employer in the defence business despatched area denial munitions - including some whose delivery systems were in part developed by me - which were later included in the definition as weapons of mass destruction - so that company could illegally export with false paperwork claiming they were intended for deployment on Tornado Fighters of the Royal Saudi Air Force when in fact they were destined for Iraq and fused for deployment on Dassault Super Entendards supplied to Saddam Hussein by the unique and truly Amoral Mr Dassault.
The details of those illegal transactions and the identity of, and the identities of the people behind, the illegal middle man are all over the newspaper archives and the company is named and described in wikipedia and if you know the plot of the BBC adaptation of John Le Carre's The Night Watchman (which as i recall stared Tim Hiddlestone and Hugh Laurie) then it is fair to say the scheme set up followed the same general approach as that used in that fiction.
The other thing i would say is that as a developer of all sorts of nasty ways to kill people including delivery of things nuclear, chemical and biological, and as a licenced animal experimenter from my first career, few things truly keep me awake at night and few things actually horrify me, but in 2004 I had the unenviable task of working at a Barclays Bank Information Technology site a little way between Warwick and Coventry, and there i had to meet and mingle on a daily basis with the people responsible for operating the financial industry's government directed asset seizure programme.
There was a delightful meme doing the rounds a few years ago showing Tony Blair with his demonic eyes taking a selfie of himself standing and grinning his arse off before a scene of hellfire and devastation taken in the oilfields saddam set fire to as his invasion of kuwait. I've gone mano a mano with Blair in the House of Commons Select Committee and won, and a more nasty piece of work you'd be hard pushed to meet, but he did not deserve being depicted like he was in that meme because THOSE SCUM IN THAT FINANCIAL SEIZURE PRORAMME DID. They are the nastiest bastards on earth who positively enjoy bringing starvation upon those whose assets they seize and whose lives they ruin. It is their efficiency, and their delight at doing their job, and the utter pleasure they openly display at bringing that misery down upon friends relatives and associates of the person whose perceived (and on more than one occasion utterly falsely accused) accusations of wrongdoing are being punished.
The antics of that bunch and more to the point the utter pleasure which they take in doing their job horrifies me.
As you can probably work out, some of my work has put men six foot under for doing no more than their army, navy and air force commanders told them, just some of the work my father did, and some of the work my two grandfathers did, but we did it because those we were working against were hoping to do it to us and they succeeded in their attempt against my cousin's former shipmates (he was transferred off the Atlantic Conveyor to take up a promotion on a different ship in the company) and while I am not going to apologise for providing my own country's armed forces with the means to do their job, I'm not going to sing and dance and rejoice about it
That they did truly horrified me. Steps are taken in the areas i have worked in to ensure such people do not get such jobs, Clearly the banking industry has no such scruples and neither has the banking regulation industry
But the problem here is Nigel is milking this as an action taken by the poisonous remainiacs against him for his stance and actions on brexit.
Whereas the reality is the action is being taken because the industry has been directed to take it as a result of the statements made under protection of parliamentary privilige by a nasty piece of work the elected member for Islwyn who i almost caused the death of in 2010 when he took evasive action to avoid shaking my hand and fell off the podium we were both on. To this day I regret not standing an inch closer to the edge of that platform.
But the fact remains the accusations are he was happily taking money from a sanctioned organisation. And until he kills off that allegation the banks are obliged to act against him.
Don't confuse the bank's requirement to follow instructions from government with the delight and hatred spewed by the likes of Diane Abbott and Peter Hain
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Post by sheepy on Jul 2, 2023 8:17:41 GMT
You know when the New Liebour already think the next election is a done deal, their Bolsheviks come crawling from the woodwork.
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Post by thomas on Jul 2, 2023 8:24:04 GMT
Indeed, which might hint as to why his business account was closed. 24,000 bank accounts were closed last year for suspicious activity and suspected money laundering. red herring. You dont need a business account to launder money. Addressed earlier in the thread. So its a pretty poor excuse as to why farage has been picked on , not to mention the guy at wings over scotland who had his personal first direct account closed with allegations its due to his criticism of transgender issues.
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Post by see2 on Jul 2, 2023 8:42:25 GMT
Farage could help by inviting them to publish their reasons without fear of prosecution for sharing personal data. Why publish them, why not just write to him with an explanation? I believe Banks are obliged to inform account holders when and why their account is being dropped.
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