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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 27, 2022 20:45:53 GMT
I put this thread here for two reasons; 1, it will quickly get swallowed up elsewhere. 2, if you have half an hour to kill, it's very interesting. Well I found it very interesting anyway.
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Post by sword on Oct 27, 2022 21:38:45 GMT
Interesting video,i will be in Portsmouth next June might have enough time to visit that ship the hotel i am at for one night is very close by.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2022 9:45:40 GMT
Oh yes, do go, it's an excellent experience.
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Post by sword on Oct 28, 2022 12:21:31 GMT
Oh yes, do go, it's an excellent experience. Thanks i will,when i was a kid i was in the sea cadets,one summer a few of us spent two weeks at HMS excellent Royal Navy Shore base on whale Island, i would have liked to see Victory then but it was not on the itinerary,last time i was in Portsmouth was in 2019 and didn't have time then to visit so will do it next year. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 28, 2022 17:53:56 GMT
In 1986 I almost sank her. Well my boss did
I was called to attend a submarine parked up in Gosport for maintenance. My boss at the time went to set up the forward tubes to see what the problem was.
About ten minutes later some scrote stuck his head in to ask how many tubes we wanted to arm.
Had the arse done it we reckon the Isle of Wight ferry and the dry dock doors behind which she stands would have been prime targets.
I doubt the Navy would have been happy.
When my kids were little I went to the dockyard and took the tour. I remember the chap leading the tour making a really big thing about how the guns worked. Unlike the enemy fleet we had this device on the top of the gun, near the back, to which a rope was attached. When the gun crew were ordered to fire, they squinted out along the barrel and pulled the rope.
The effect was instant, in a manner akin to a flintlock the mechanism ignited a charge which ignited the main powder and BANG.
This was, I was told, far superior to enemy ships who used lit fus s and had to time the delay between lighting the fuse and the gun firing.
The result, I was told, meant we did more damage per shot than the other side.
I went several years later to let Sarah hear about the ship for her history GCSE. I was disappointed to find we no longer told people about our technical advantages and their obvious result. As one paid handsomely to try and maintain that advantage I was, to put it mildly, somewhat annoyed.
Even so, for those with a hankering for the history of this country, I commend a visit to see inside for yourself as well worthwhile.
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Post by sword on Oct 28, 2022 19:30:41 GMT
In 1986 I almost sank her. Well my boss did I was called to attend a submarine parked up in Gosport for maintenance. My boss at the time went to set up the forward tubes to see what the problem was. About ten minutes later some scrote stuck his head in to ask how many tubes we wanted to arm. Had the arse done it we reckon the Isle of Wight ferry and the dry dock doors behind which she stands would have been prime targets. I doubt the Navy would have been happy. When my kids were little I went to the dockyard and took the tour. I remember the chap leading the tour making a really big thing about how the guns worked. Unlike the enemy fleet we had this device on the top of the gun, near the back, to which a rope was attached. When the gun crew were ordered to fire, they squinted out along the barrel and pulled the rope. The effect was instant, in a manner akin to a flintlock the mechanism ignited a charge which ignited the main powder and BANG. This was, I was told, far superior to enemy ships who used lit fus s and had to time the delay between lighting the fuse and the gun firing. The result, I was told, meant we did more damage per shot than the other side. I went several years later to let Sarah hear about the ship for her history GCSE. I was disappointed to find we no longer told people about our technical advantages and their obvious result. As one paid handsomely to try and maintain that advantage I was, to put it mildly, somewhat annoyed. Even so, for those with a hankering for the history of this country, I commend a visit to see inside for yourself as well worthwhile. Very interesting and funny at the same time,in those days the sea battles must have been hell because they were very close engagements and then the bloody boarding parties,will be interesting to see it close up,i think it will be larger than what it looks in the photos. |
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Post by colbops on Oct 28, 2022 20:06:05 GMT
In 1986 I almost sank her. Well my boss did I was called to attend a submarine parked up in Gosport for maintenance. My boss at the time went to set up the forward tubes to see what the problem was. About ten minutes later some scrote stuck his head in to ask how many tubes we wanted to arm. Had the arse done it we reckon the Isle of Wight ferry and the dry dock doors behind which she stands would have been prime targets. I doubt the Navy would have been happy. When my kids were little I went to the dockyard and took the tour. I remember the chap leading the tour making a really big thing about how the guns worked. Unlike the enemy fleet we had this device on the top of the gun, near the back, to which a rope was attached. When the gun crew were ordered to fire, they squinted out along the barrel and pulled the rope. The effect was instant, in a manner akin to a flintlock the mechanism ignited a charge which ignited the main powder and BANG. This was, I was told, far superior to enemy ships who used lit fus s and had to time the delay between lighting the fuse and the gun firing. The result, I was told, meant we did more damage per shot than the other side. I went several years later to let Sarah hear about the ship for her history GCSE. I was disappointed to find we no longer told people about our technical advantages and their obvious result. As one paid handsomely to try and maintain that advantage I was, to put it mildly, somewhat annoyed. Even so, for those with a hankering for the history of this country, I commend a visit to see inside for yourself as well worthwhile. Very interesting and funny at the same time,in those days the sea battles must have been hell because they were very close engagements and then the bloody boarding parties,will be interesting to see it close up,i think it will be larger than what it looks in the photos. It actually looks a lot smaller than you'd expect. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 28, 2022 20:56:58 GMT
She is actually still listed as a ship of the line, used for admirals meetings and the like.
When I worked at Ferrari, one of the board level guys realised victory was actually the only ship “in service” not to have one of our computers.
Basil was never one to pass up a PR opportunity. He went up to our Manchester factory pulled an Advance X86 off the warehouse shelves and took it to the dock and handed it over !!
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 29, 2022 11:12:28 GMT
Genuine LOL moment  |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 29, 2022 16:27:05 GMT
I wonder if they mention the black sailors on the Victory and in Nelson's fleet generally on the guided tours. There's one depicted on the frieze at the foot of Nelson's Column.
When I went aeons ago on a school-trip there wasn't any mention of it but times have changed.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 4, 2022 18:55:05 GMT
Yes, there is, what surprised me about HMS Victory is how relatively small it is, the conditions on board must have been dreadful for the crew and in battle horrific.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 4, 2022 23:05:51 GMT
About a dozen men for every yard of length.  Over 200 men on two decks turning the main capstan. Over 6,000 trees cut down to build it. The figures are mind boggling.  |
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Post by Handyman on Nov 6, 2022 13:37:51 GMT
Thanks for the post very informative, before it caught fire, I went on board the Tea Clipper the Cutty Sark, small slim and fast I think the crew must have slept in the hold with the tea chests so little room, when I saw how small Francis Chichester's yacht was that he sailed around the world in, I was amazed how he managed to do it,
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