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Post by dodgydave on Jun 18, 2023 0:06:49 GMT
So a report finds Sue Gray doesn't practice what she preaches, and Starmer is not as clean as he claims either. What I find more interesting is that the BBC's main stories are about a Tory MP resigning and "video emerges of Tory staff party during Covid"... updated one hour ago... so they are obviously still awake... but ZERO FUCKING MENTION of the Sue Gray story... impartiality at its finest lol. Telegraph ExpressImpartial BBC News Website fails to report story lol
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Post by jonksy on Jun 18, 2023 3:21:28 GMT
Yet another thread that will fall on the lefties deaf ears.
Sue Gray ‘broke impartiality rules over Keir Starmer job’
Sue Gray, the senior civil servant poached by Sir Keir Starmer, breached Whitehall impartiality rules and could have been suspended or sacked had she not quit, according to the damning findings of an official Cabinet Office inquiry.
The report found Sue Gray 'fell short' of the requirements of both the Civil Service Code and her employment
contract when discussing the job with Sir Keir Starmer - Gov.uk/PA
An assessment signed off by Simon Case, the Cabinet Secretary, and the Government’s most senior lawyer concluded that Ms Gray “fell short” of the requirements of both the Civil Service Code and her employment contract when she quietly took part in talks about joining Labour as Sir Keir’s chief of staff.
The findings, seen by The Telegraph, will embarrass Ms Gray, who was formerly in charge of government propriety and ethics. It will also prompt fresh questions about the judgment of Sir Keir, who has repeatedly railed against “Tory sleaze”.
The Conservatives had previously questioned whether the way in which he poached Ms Gray had “undermined the rules and the impartiality of the Civil Service”.
Sue Gray ‘in breach of Civil Service Code’ The internal Cabinet Office document was written by Darren Tierney, a successor of Ms Gray as director-general of propriety, and was marked “official” and “sensitive”.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 18, 2023 3:55:51 GMT
Does it make you wonder if perhaps theirs something going on that sleepy Joe public isn't entirely aware of. Starmer said the WEF is more important than Westminster, and Sunak is a globalist. In short, we have a centrist Tory prime minister against a centrist opposition. I bet the next election will have the lowest turnout in decades. Wankers the lot of em.
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Post by jonksy on Jun 18, 2023 5:38:30 GMT
So a report finds Sue Gray doesn't practice what she preaches, and Starmer is not as clean as he claims either. What I find more interesting is that the BBC's main stories are about a Tory MP resigning and "video emerges of Tory staff party during Covid"... updated one hour ago... so they are obviously still awake... but ZERO FUCKING MENTION of the Sue Gray story... impartiality at its finest lol. Telegraph ExpressImpartial BBC News Website fails to report story lolThis is YET another thread the usual lefty crock will avoid mate. The whole fucking saga stinks to high heaven.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 18, 2023 6:34:26 GMT
So a report finds Sue Gray doesn't practice what she preaches, and Starmer is not as clean as he claims either. What I find more interesting is that the BBC's main stories are about a Tory MP resigning and "video emerges of Tory staff party during Covid"... updated one hour ago... so they are obviously still awake... but ZERO FUCKING MENTION of the Sue Gray story... impartiality at its finest lol. Telegraph ExpressImpartial BBC News Website fails to report story lolBeing a bit disingenuous here dodgydave this is not the official independent enquiry is it? Its obvious to me at least they all live in a dirty dealing world of their own,something stinks in Westminster for sure and it’s not down to the weather because it’s been like that for years. I suspect Red is right regards the election,whoever wins will claim a mandate they don’t really have and the whole circus will roll on where the we know what’s best for you continues,because that’s what it is just a bloody stupid game a charade that they actually give a stuff what we think or vote for.
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Post by dodgydave on Jun 18, 2023 12:38:41 GMT
So a report finds Sue Gray doesn't practice what she preaches, and Starmer is not as clean as he claims either. What I find more interesting is that the BBC's main stories are about a Tory MP resigning and "video emerges of Tory staff party during Covid"... updated one hour ago... so they are obviously still awake... but ZERO FUCKING MENTION of the Sue Gray story... impartiality at its finest lol. Telegraph ExpressImpartial BBC News Website fails to report story lolBeing a bit disingenuous here dodgydave this is not the official independent enquiry is it? Its obvious to me at least they all live in a dirty dealing world of their own,something stinks in Westminster for sure and it’s not down to the weather because it’s been like that for years. I suspect Red is right regards the election,whoever wins will claim a mandate they don’t really have and the whole circus will roll on where the we know what’s best for you continues,because that’s what it is just a bloody stupid game a charade that they actually give a stuff what we think or vote for. There is no "official independent enquiry" because Sue Gray refused to take part in it lol. Yet somehow the BBC don't trash her for it lol. This is cabinet office report that said she would have been suspended and probably fired if she hadn't resigned when the story first broke because she broken the ministerial code. My point was more that the "impartial" BBC haven't reported this story... yet on the same day their politics page is full of Tory bashing stories. Just like they fall over themselves to report every negative Trump story, but completely ignore the fact Biden is frail and mentally failing (he signed off a speach with "God save the Queen" the other day lol), and his family have been corruptly making millions from influence pedaling. Are you not bothered the "impartial" BBC fails to report stories?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2023 12:44:13 GMT
Being a bit disingenuous here dodgydave this is not the official independent enquiry is it? Its obvious to me at least they all live in a dirty dealing world of their own,something stinks in Westminster for sure and it’s not down to the weather because it’s been like that for years. I suspect Red is right regards the election,whoever wins will claim a mandate they don’t really have and the whole circus will roll on where the we know what’s best for you continues,because that’s what it is just a bloody stupid game a charade that they actually give a stuff what we think or vote for. There is no "official independent enquiry" because Sue Gray refused to take part in it lol. Yet somehow the BBC don't trash her for it lol. This is cabinet office report that said she would have been suspended and probably fired if she hadn't resigned when the story first broke because she broken the ministerial code. My point was more that the "impartial" BBC haven't reported this story... yet on the same day their politics page is full of Tory bashing stories. Just like they fall over themselves to report every negative Trump story, but completely ignore the fact Biden is frail and mentally failing (he signed off a speach with "God save the Queen" the other day lol), and his family have been corruptly making millions from influence pedaling. Are you not bothered the "impartial" BBC fails to report stories? There is and there always has been. A Labour source told Sky News: "Sue Gray has fully cooperated with ACOBA [Advisory Committee on Business Appointments] which is the proper process. "They have all the relevant details and are the ones who advise on these matters." The cabinet office held their own inquiry and this is the one Gray refused to particpate in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2023 13:57:08 GMT
So a report finds Sue Gray doesn't practice what she preaches, and Starmer is not as clean as he claims either. What I find more interesting is that the BBC's main stories are about a Tory MP resigning and "video emerges of Tory staff party during Covid"... updated one hour ago... so they are obviously still awake... but ZERO FUCKING MENTION of the Sue Gray story... impartiality at its finest lol. Telegraph ExpressImpartial BBC News Website fails to report story lolAlso - no mention of Sue Gray on the front pages of ITN News, SKY News, Reuters UK and GUESS WHAT ? .... No mention on GB News website either. Maybe because the Cabinet Office Inquiry has no legal standing and carries no weight
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Post by jonksy on Jun 18, 2023 14:00:05 GMT
So a report finds Sue Gray doesn't practice what she preaches, and Starmer is not as clean as he claims either. What I find more interesting is that the BBC's main stories are about a Tory MP resigning and "video emerges of Tory staff party during Covid"... updated one hour ago... so they are obviously still awake... but ZERO FUCKING MENTION of the Sue Gray story... impartiality at its finest lol. Telegraph ExpressImpartial BBC News Website fails to report story lolAlso - no mention of Sue Gray on the front pages of ITN News, SKY News, Reuters UK and GUESS WHAT ? .... No mention on GB News website either. Maybe because the Cabinet Office Inquiry has no legal standing and carries no weight Neither does the lefty lynching of Boris fiddles the bullshit kangaroo court would not be legal if Boris bothered to play the lefty game.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 18, 2023 16:00:07 GMT
Being a bit disingenuous here dodgydave this is not the official independent enquiry is it? Its obvious to me at least they all live in a dirty dealing world of their own,something stinks in Westminster for sure and it’s not down to the weather because it’s been like that for years. I suspect Red is right regards the election,whoever wins will claim a mandate they don’t really have and the whole circus will roll on where the we know what’s best for you continues,because that’s what it is just a bloody stupid game a charade that they actually give a stuff what we think or vote for. There is no "official independent enquiry" because Sue Gray refused to take part in it lol. Yet somehow the BBC don't trash her for it lol. This is cabinet office report that said she would have been suspended and probably fired if she hadn't resigned when the story first broke because she broken the ministerial code. My point was more that the "impartial" BBC haven't reported this story... yet on the same day their politics page is full of Tory bashing stories. Just like they fall over themselves to report every negative Trump story, but completely ignore the fact Biden is frail and mentally failing (he signed off a speach with "God save the Queen" the other day lol), and his family have been corruptly making millions from influence pedaling. Are you not bothered the "impartial" BBC fails to report stories? Some stuff the BBC like all media does bother me. Btw the beeb covered Biden and god save the queen www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-65936994
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Post by dodgydave on Jun 18, 2023 16:41:44 GMT
There is no "official independent enquiry" because Sue Gray refused to take part in it lol. Yet somehow the BBC don't trash her for it lol. This is cabinet office report that said she would have been suspended and probably fired if she hadn't resigned when the story first broke because she broken the ministerial code. My point was more that the "impartial" BBC haven't reported this story... yet on the same day their politics page is full of Tory bashing stories. Just like they fall over themselves to report every negative Trump story, but completely ignore the fact Biden is frail and mentally failing (he signed off a speach with "God save the Queen" the other day lol), and his family have been corruptly making millions from influence pedaling. Are you not bothered the "impartial" BBC fails to report stories? There is and there always has been. A Labour source told Sky News: "Sue Gray has fully cooperated with ACOBA [Advisory Committee on Business Appointments] which is the proper process. "They have all the relevant details and are the ones who advise on these matters." The cabinet office held their own inquiry and this is the one Gray refused to particpate in. They are two different things, and you know it. The ACOBA process is to decide if she can take the job, so of course she is cooperating with them. She refused to talk to the Cabinet Office... I wonder why lol. You don't have a problem with her breaking the Ministerial Code and the terms of contract of employment? How very selective of you lol. Can you not see peoples problem with this? Starmer and Raynor have spent the last three years calling out Tory corruption, sleeze, rule breaking... yet they show zero fucking leadership when they are caught doing it themselves lol. This report is clear, she needed express permission to talk to the opposition, and she did not have it, so she broken the Ministerial Code and who have faced suspension and dismissal. I want a Social Democratic government, I've been calling this tactic out for 3 years. If your sole tactic is winning by finger pointing then you are going to be fucked when the fingers point back at you. Especially when you use sleazy lawyer technicalities to dodge taking responsibility for your actions.
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Post by dodgydave on Jun 18, 2023 16:52:14 GMT
There is no "official independent enquiry" because Sue Gray refused to take part in it lol. Yet somehow the BBC don't trash her for it lol. This is cabinet office report that said she would have been suspended and probably fired if she hadn't resigned when the story first broke because she broken the ministerial code. My point was more that the "impartial" BBC haven't reported this story... yet on the same day their politics page is full of Tory bashing stories. Just like they fall over themselves to report every negative Trump story, but completely ignore the fact Biden is frail and mentally failing (he signed off a speach with "God save the Queen" the other day lol), and his family have been corruptly making millions from influence pedaling. Are you not bothered the "impartial" BBC fails to report stories? Some stuff rhe BBC like all media does bother me. Btw the beeb covered Biden and god save the queen www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-65936994Yeah they published a cover story because it turned into a yet another Biden has lost his marbles meme. No mention that the Hunter Biden Story was falsely labelled Russian misinformation. No mention of the bank records that show the Bidens paid themselves tens of millions via 20 limited companies. No mention of the whistleblower who has come forward to reveal that a $5m bribery allegation has not been investigated. No mention that the FBI refused to hand over the intelligence document, and when they finally did (under threat of contempt proceedings) they redacted out the part that there are potentially 17 recordings (of Joe and Hunter) selling favours. Why would allegations that the President took bribes or maybe be a blackmail target be newsworthy hahaha.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 18, 2023 18:13:05 GMT
Yeah they published a cover story because it turned into a yet another Biden has lost his marbles meme. No mention that the Hunter Biden Story was falsely labelled Russian misinformation. No mention of the bank records that show the Bidens paid themselves tens of millions via 20 limited companies. No mention of the whistleblower who has come forward to reveal that a $5m bribery allegation has not been investigated. No mention that the FBI refused to hand over the intelligence document, and when they finally did (under threat of contempt proceedings) they redacted out the part that there are potentially 17 recordings (of Joe and Hunter) selling favours. Why would allegations that the President took bribes or maybe be a blackmail target be newsworthy hahaha. Your main complaint was they hadn’t covered Biden and god save the queen so I posted a link which you now say is a cover story,the BBC have also run several stories on Hunter Biden including this www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65344338I expect you think this might be a cover story. I’m not here to defend any media and certainly neither Trump or Biden,if you look (though I don’t really expect you to) I have posted more than once that it’s incredible the worlds no1 superpower can only come up with that pair as potential leaders.
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Post by dodgydave on Jun 19, 2023 1:11:45 GMT
Yeah they published a cover story because it turned into a yet another Biden has lost his marbles meme. No mention that the Hunter Biden Story was falsely labelled Russian misinformation. No mention of the bank records that show the Bidens paid themselves tens of millions via 20 limited companies. No mention of the whistleblower who has come forward to reveal that a $5m bribery allegation has not been investigated. No mention that the FBI refused to hand over the intelligence document, and when they finally did (under threat of contempt proceedings) they redacted out the part that there are potentially 17 recordings (of Joe and Hunter) selling favours. Why would allegations that the President took bribes or maybe be a blackmail target be newsworthy hahaha. Your main complaint was they hadn’t covered Biden and god save the queen so I posted a link which you now say is a cover story,the BBC have also run several stories on Hunter Biden including this www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65344338I expect you think this might be a cover story. I’m not here to defend any media and certainly neither Trump or Biden,if you look (though I don’t really expect you to) I have posted more than once that it’s incredible the worlds no1 superpower can only come up with that pair as potential leaders. That's not actually what I wrote. I said they are ignoring his frailty and failing mental facilities, and then gave an example of his latest gaffe. That's the wrong whistleblower btw. An FBI whistleblower gave details of a 1023 (intelligence document) that he claimed the FBI had sat on / failed to investigate properly. The FBI director refused to confirm its existence, until a member of the Oversight Committee said he had seen a copy of the 1023 and a subpoena was issued for the original. The FBI director refused to hand it over giving the old line "we don't discuss what we are / are not investigating". He was threathened with contempt proceeding and then gave over a heavily redacted version... ie they redacted out the fact that the source claimed to have 17 voice recordings of the Bidens. It might all be bullshit, but flip it around, and how would the MSM be reporting these events if they were about Trump? This is the same MSM that fraudulently labelled the Laptop Story as Russian disinformation during the last Presidential Election...
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Post by wapentake on Jun 19, 2023 4:59:00 GMT
Your main complaint was they hadn’t covered Biden and god save the queen so I posted a link which you now say is a cover story,the BBC have also run several stories on Hunter Biden including this www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65344338I expect you think this might be a cover story. I’m not here to defend any media and certainly neither Trump or Biden,if you look (though I don’t really expect you to) I have posted more than once that it’s incredible the worlds no1 superpower can only come up with that pair as potential leaders. That's not actually what I wrote. I said they are ignoring his frailty and failing mental facilities, and then gave an example of his latest gaffe.That's the wrong whistleblower btw. An FBI whistleblower gave details of a 1023 (intelligence document) that he claimed the FBI had sat on / failed to investigate properly. The FBI director refused to confirm its existence, until a member of the Oversight Committee said he had seen a copy of the 1023 and a subpoena was issued for the original. The FBI director refused to hand it over giving the old line "we don't discuss what we are / are not investigating". He was threathened with contempt proceeding and then gave over a heavily redacted version... ie they redacted out the fact that the source claimed to have 17 voice recordings of the Bidens. It might all be bullshit, but flip it around, and how would the MSM be reporting these events if they were about Trump? This is the same MSM that fraudulently labelled the Laptop Story as Russian disinformation during the last Presidential Election... Fair comment,as to the rest as I said that this is the best the US can come up with as leaders is worrying given their power.
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