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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:12:27 GMT
I would say the crucifixion is laboured upon in Christian schools. Many have more than one image of a man being tortured to death on their walls. And yet never once did I or anyone in my school ever stop to deliberate this as you’re trying to portray it. Many children, girls especially wore a crucifix around their necks, because ya know, the message of Christianity isn’t one of torture, it’s one of hope, kindness, forgiveness and salvation. Now, I’m not a practising Christian and probably consider myself agnostic, leaning towards atheism, but I was raised in a catholic school and these wanna be haters of religion really should try and take a lesson of tolerance out of their own book, because I can’t help but think posts like this just make folk look very ignorant. Yes. I don't doubt you when you say nobody stopped to consider it. In fact, anyone who did would immediately have been accosted by Christian guilt. That's how it works. I don't think this makes posters look very ignorant, Tinculin. I've complained to the mods about the Right continually making references to child abuse among the Left. I had no reply to my recent complaint. I'm now discussing a form of child abuse (in the sense that some of the Right appear to be using it) here. I'm not bothered if you think I look ignorant. I thought your 'like' for a post that suggested that the UK invade Russia made you look ignorant. I didn't feel the need to mention it, though.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:13:48 GMT
I'm fine with that. Leave out the crown of thorns, scourges, nails, spear to the side, and the slow painful death, and it should be just about acceptable. What will be left, though? No, you can leave that in. Kids didn’t have a problem with it and still don’t. Of course, they don't. It would be a sin to turn away from 'the truth'. It's kind of built into the whole scheme that they 'won't have a problem with it'.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:23:58 GMT
So, why is exposing children to images of torture not 'child abuse', but teaching them about transgenderism is?
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 12:24:11 GMT
No, you can leave that in. Kids didn’t have a problem with it and still don’t. Of course, they don't. It would be a sin to turn away from 'the truth'. It's kind of built into the whole scheme that they 'won't have a problem with it'. A story about a God willingly putting itself through pain to save mankind is nothing like a story of innocents bring forced to endure pain . Crowns of thorns and getting stabbed in the side doesn’t really resonate with young kids in that context. Daniel in the lions den didn’t stop me from going to the zoo, the fiery furnace didn't make frightened of the Parkray and the parting of the Red Sea didn’t make me scared of the swimming pool.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 12:24:47 GMT
So, why is exposing children to images of torture not 'child abuse', but teaching them about transgenderism is? Lol.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:26:50 GMT
Of course, they don't. It would be a sin to turn away from 'the truth'. It's kind of built into the whole scheme that they 'won't have a problem with it'. A story about a God willingly putting itself through pain to save mankind is nothing like a story of innocents bring forced to endure pain . Crowns of thorns and getting stabbed in the side doesn’t really resonate with young kids in that context. Daniel in the lions den didn’t stop me from going to the zoo, the fiery furnace didn't make frightened of the Parkray and the parting of the Red Sea didn’t make me scared of the swimming pool. So, repeal all the laws forbidding children to view movies with violent images. They don't come more violent than what happened to Christ.
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Post by Dan Dare on Jun 17, 2023 12:27:14 GMT
The story of the Crucifixion and the Resurrection is a fundamental part of Christian doctrine. If you don't want children to be told about the former then Easter is reduced to a commercial and ecumenical opportunity just as Christmas has become.
In the telling of them to children, of any age, there is no need to dwell upon the gory detail.
Are there other aspects of Christian doctrine you object to?
Yes, the crucifixion is fundamental to the Christian myth. It would be better to reduce Easter in the way you say than expose children to images of torture and execution. Yes, there are other aspects of the Christian faith I object to. I suspected that might be the case.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:27:35 GMT
So, why is exposing children to images of torture not 'child abuse', but teaching them about transgenderism is? Lol. It's an improvement on your usual standard of debate. Keep up the good work.
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:28:06 GMT
Yes, the crucifixion is fundamental to the Christian myth. It would be better to reduce Easter in the way you say than expose children to images of torture and execution. Yes, there are other aspects of the Christian faith I object to. I suspected that might be the case. That's okay.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 12:31:30 GMT
It's an improvement on your usual standard of debate. Keep up the good work. It was appropriate. No matter how many times crucifixion is put into context, you just ignore it and ask the same question. The debate technique of ‘ yeah but ‘ become a source of mirth eventually .
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Post by Bentley on Jun 17, 2023 12:33:54 GMT
A story about a God willingly putting itself through pain to save mankind is nothing like a story of innocents bring forced to endure pain . Crowns of thorns and getting stabbed in the side doesn’t really resonate with young kids in that context. Daniel in the lions den didn’t stop me from going to the zoo, the fiery furnace didn't make frightened of the Parkray and the parting of the Red Sea didn’t make me scared of the swimming pool. So, repeal all the laws forbidding children to view movies with violent images. They don't come more violent than what happened to Christ. Who claimed that children should see a movie of Christ being tortured ?
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:34:03 GMT
It's an improvement on your usual standard of debate. Keep up the good work. It was appropriate. No matter how many times crucifixion is put into context, you just ignore it and ask the same question. The debate technique of ‘ yeah but ‘ become a source of mirth eventually . If children have the emotional resilience to cope with torture and execution, they will also have the ability to cope with being told biological facts. And before you start off with your usual nonsense about transgenderism being a myth, remember that you believe that a man who was tortured to death came back to life three days later.
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Post by buccaneer on Jun 17, 2023 12:34:42 GMT
In your sensationalist opinion. Okay. If it's sensationalist, then so are claims by the Christian Right when it comes to some so-called woke activities. Well, I'm not "Christian Right" but I would agree with them on many woke activities no doubt.
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Post by thescotsman on Jun 17, 2023 12:35:44 GMT
....maybe people should be taught to read...I mean actually read...and comprehend what they are reading....rather than just skimming texts to pass an exam.
I read about crowns of thorns, lashes, nails, speared sides, an agonised protracted death. What did you read? ...the destruction of Judaism through iconography....a narrative developed to meet a religious need
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Post by Einhorn on Jun 17, 2023 12:37:00 GMT
I read about crowns of thorns, lashes, nails, speared sides, an agonised protracted death. What did you read? ...the destruction of Judaism through iconography....a narrative developed to meet a religious need Have you been taking lessons on clarity of expression from Sheepy?
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