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Post by jonksy on Jun 14, 2023 20:25:04 GMT
I looked at the article that was linked to. The sentences seemed typical of most drug trafficking sentences, and rather more severe than most paedophiles get. There is I would argue an imbalance here. I see no evidence that the judge is a puppet of left wing politicians. It depends if you are satisfied with these lenient sentences. Not only were they drug trafficking they were adding dubious substances including battery acid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 20:33:28 GMT
I looked at the article that was linked to. The sentences seemed typical of most drug trafficking sentences, and rather more severe than most paedophiles get. There is I would argue an imbalance here. I see no evidence that the judge is a puppet of left wing politicians. It depends if you are satisfied with these lenient sentences. Not only were they drug trafficking they were adding dubious substances including battery acid. That is of course unacceptable conduct. I actually tend to agree with you that their sentences should have been longer
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 15, 2023 16:41:37 GMT
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 15, 2023 16:46:12 GMT
No wonder I didn't see this thread. Is 'Mind Zone' a suitable place for a story about a Sudanese rapist? The Mind Zone is suitable for any subject. If you can't stay within the Mind Zone rules you have the option to start a thread on this outside of the MZ.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 15, 2023 17:03:21 GMT
No wonder I didn't see this thread. Is 'Mind Zone' a suitable place for a story about a Sudanese rapist? The Mind Zone is suitable for any subject. If you can't stay within the Mind Zone rules you have the option to start a thread on this outside of the MZ. Mhmm, how many duplicate threads would be enough for one forum? EDIT: since digression is a natural part of social intercourse I will withdraw from this thread.
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Post by bancroft on Jun 15, 2023 17:10:35 GMT
'The 23-year-old is a refugee from Sudan who was granted final leave to remain in Britain last year by the Home Office despite the fact that he was already facing this rape charge.
He said he came to Britain aged 16 in October 2016 after having fled from his home city of Omdurman because of the civil war and reached France via Libya and Italy. He came to Britain as part of a scheme to resettle under age refugees.
He already had one conviction for an offence of battery committed outside a nightclub in Exeter in January 2022 when he was granted settled status in June 2022.'
A joke, he had already committed an offence here. Should be locked up or extradited back to his own country regardless of any human rights issue. He lost that IMO after these crimes.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 15, 2023 18:09:26 GMT
Just another woke fool who has slithered to the top. But what more can you expect from a lefty council run madhouse? A judge has nothing to do with local councils, lefty or otherwise. Our judges in this country are independent of political oversight, thankfully. This judge's questionable decision is his alone. the problem is they are also independent of disciplinary action and sacking. Given the fact that every second spent on remand counts towards the sentence handed down, there is absolutely NO sane reason for doing this unless the sentence is going to be so pitifully short they’ll walk from the court having served it already…
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Post by jonksy on Jun 15, 2023 18:16:23 GMT
A judge has nothing to do with local councils, lefty or otherwise. Our judges in this country are independent of political oversight, thankfully. This judge's questionable decision is his alone. the problem is they are also independent of disciplinary action and sacking. Given the fact that every second spent on remand counts towards the sentence handed down, there is absolutely NO sane reason for doing this unless the sentence is going to be so pitifully short they’ll walk from the court having served it already… Exactly mate and if he ends up in Exeter jail it is renowned as a 5 star hotel. The frigging screws even smuggle in mobile phones for their guests. And as for Channing wood at Denbury which is where they put the lesser cases and are mainly teenagers they bloody come and go as they please. So where exactly is the deterrent?
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Post by dappy on Jun 16, 2023 9:59:51 GMT
Meanwhile back in the land of reality.
Exeter prison was recently in special measures due its conditions being unacceptable. It is largely used as a disbursement prison or for very short sentences so unlikely this guy would serve much of his sentence there unless it is a very short sentence.
Channings Wood is not an open prison so that is just bollocks. It does have a specialist wing for treating sex offenders so possible he could end up there.
Devon's other prison Dartmoor, despite its fearsome reputation, is a mixed prison housing many sex offenders but they live mixing fully with other offenders. It tends to deal with offenders serving longer sentences often taking them after they have become acclimatised to the prison system. It was until very recently scheduled for closure and its facilities leave much to be desired but is now expected to remain open indefinitely. Again may well be that this guy will serve some of his sentence there.
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