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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 9, 2023 7:50:27 GMT
After the suspicious sudden death of Michael Hastings in a high speed car crash and burning inferno in L.A. … just before he talked to friends about dropping an “incendiary report” exposing the activities of the CIA Director John Brennan at that time… www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/wikileaks-vault-7-dump-reignites-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-death-of-michael-hastings/news-story/0df1d06403d0223ce1cfc286a1e75325It’s fair to mention the CIA doesn’t much like to have it’s activities challenged and exposed. Censorship here suggests they don’t like my research. But surely … would they go so far as to “assassinate” a journalist or an actress playing a ‘role’ in 3 movies they got very upset about? …. Wag the Dog(political manipulation in the WhiteHouse), Toxic Skies(the Chemtrails programme) and Girl in Room 13(pedophilia and it’s cover up by gov. agencies)?? This isn’t a conspiracy theory discussion we are having here … it’s a FACTUAL discussion of a possible ‘murder’ with EVIDENCE. … not something to be brushed under the carpet by those responsible. The v. suspicious death of Anne Heche …. How many of these firemen are REAL? … what paramedic experience have they? …. are some covert CIA operatives? … because one or two seem to be talking into ear headpieces? … and they were determined to get this ‘victim’ into the ambulance - our of sight of the aerial chopper news cameras ASAP. VERY SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOUR - that suggested they had no medical skills … just packaging and bundling…. bungling(?) operational botch job inabilities. Do ‘firemen’ normally strap fire victims to a medical trolley when they are still alive zipped up in a body bag?? WTF! ??… Not the way to treat a burns victim still alive … gasping for breath. …. especially after an hour allegedly being trapped in a burning car … in a burning building? … she is showing amazing fighting spirit here to escape people who don’t seem concerned whether she lives or dies …. these are not TRUE FIREMEN. What inhumane treatment to give a victim of such a horrific crash? … Check out all the video coverage of the Michael Hastings high speed car crash and burning inferno … compare it to the A.H. details …. The similarities are pretty shocking.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 9, 2023 9:44:12 GMT
Notice the burns on her back? … maybe a fire bomb blast behind her? …. or burning clothing as she escaped the vehicle somehow
… notice her hair isn’t even scorched or damaged as she bursts out the body bag. A very interesting detail.
…. this shows the Authorities are lying about the circumstances of this crash … look at the car damage and the failure of the fireman to pull open the door after the fire - as the vehicle was pulled out of the building.
She must have crawled out first, but failed to escape from those ‘responders’ … there to ‘clean up’ the scene. Hmmmm. 🤔
No way they struggled for an hour to get her out of a burning car … as reported.
The reports also later say her condition was stable …
….. then suddenly she dies??
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Post by Tinculin on Jun 9, 2023 18:00:59 GMT
Yes this is a conspiracy thread and saying it isn’t won’t change the fact. I have spoken to Langley and they informed me no operatives were in the area on the day this happened. Of course, I would say that, right? Do ‘firemen’ normally strap fire victims to a medical trolley when they are still alive zipped up in a body bag?? WTF! ??… Not the way to treat a burns victim still alive … gasping for breath. …. More seriously… So, it depends on the firefighter, but many are not fully trained paramedics but will have levels of BLS/EMT training.Though after 45 minutes and the amount of vehicles on site, there would have no doubt been several at the scene. She wasn’t strapped in tight but it would make sense they when moving a laying body to secure them as necessary, especially when you’re gonna be moving someone over terrain because the risk is they’d fall out of the trolley and that would pose a risk of injury. In any case she pushes the straps away with ease. She’s also very clearly, not in a body bag. If you look at the images and pause, you can see various parts of her body exposed. Why was she was covered? I’m guessing as she has burns, they were coverings to help rather than hinder, hence again why she was easily able to push aside the strap and sit up. The actual report on her death says she soon lost consciousness in the EMS vehicle and I don’t think she ever recovered and I believe her cause of death was as a result of smoke inhalation. Interestingly, This was also her third car accident of the day.
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Post by bancroft on Jun 9, 2023 18:09:17 GMT
After the suspicious sudden death of Michael Hastings in a high speed car crash and burning inferno in L.A. … just before he talked to friends about dropping an “incendiary report” exposing the activities of the CIA Director John Brennan at that time… www.news.com.au/finance/business/media/wikileaks-vault-7-dump-reignites-conspiracy-theories-surrounding-death-of-michael-hastings/news-story/0df1d06403d0223ce1cfc286a1e75325It’s fair to mention the CIA doesn’t much like to have it’s activities challenged and exposed. Censorship here suggests they don’t like my research. But surely … would they go so far as to “assassinate” a journalist or an actress playing a ‘role’ in 3 movies they got very upset about? …. Wag the Dog(political manipulation in the WhiteHouse), Toxic Skies(the Chemtrails programme) and Girl in Room 13(pedophilia and it’s cover up by gov. agencies)?? This isn’t a conspiracy theory discussion we are having here … it’s a FACTUAL discussion of a possible ‘murder’ with EVIDENCE. … not something to be brushed under the carpet by those responsible. The v. suspicious death of Anne Heche …. How many of these firemen are REAL? … what paramedic experience have they? …. are some covert CIA operatives? … because one or two seem to be talking into ear headpieces? … and they were determined to get this ‘victim’ into the ambulance - our of sight of the aerial chopper news cameras ASAP. VERY SUSPICIOUS BEHAVIOUR - that suggested they had no medical skills … just packaging and bundling…. bungling(?) operational botch job inabilities. Do ‘firemen’ normally strap fire victims to a medical trolley when they are still alive zipped up in a body bag?? WTF! ??… Not the way to treat a burns victim still alive … gasping for breath. …. especially after an hour allegedly being trapped in a burning car … in a burning building? … she is showing amazing fighting spirit here to escape people who don’t seem concerned whether she lives or dies …. these are not TRUE FIREMEN. What inhumane treatment to give a victim of such a horrific crash? … Check out all the video coverage of the Michael Hastings high speed car crash and burning inferno … compare it to the A.H. details …. The similarities are pretty shocking. Very difficult to say yet cars and planes these days can be hacked. I recall several years before Ukraine kicked off that Putin's driver was killed after his car suddenly hit the central reservation. That raised questions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 18:24:40 GMT
Interestingly, This was also her third car accident of the day. Oh wow. That's awkward.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 9, 2023 20:52:14 GMT
More seriously… So, it depends on the firefighter, but many are not fully trained paramedics but will have levels of BLS/EMT training.Though after 45 minutes and the amount of vehicles on site, there would have no doubt been several at the scene. She wasn’t strapped in tight but it would make sense they when moving a laying body to secure them as necessary, especially when you’re gonna be moving someone over terrain because the risk is they’d fall out of the trolley and that would pose a risk of injury. In any case she pushes the straps away with ease. She’s also very clearly, not in a body bag. If you look at the images and pause, you can see various parts of her body exposed. Why was she was covered? I’m guessing as she has burns, they were coverings to help rather than hinder, hence again why she was easily able to push aside the strap and sit up. The actual report on her death says she soon lost consciousness in the EMS vehicle and I don’t think she ever recovered and I believe her cause of death was as a result of smoke inhalation. Interestingly, This was also her third car accident of the day. Points worth mentioning: 1) Reports say 54 firemen were at the scene?? Why? 2) An hour to get her out yet her hair isn’t singed? 3) If she was alive, why were expert burn paramedics not in attendance? 4) Why was she wrapped up and face covered … barely able to breath, no drips … this looks all wrong. 5) Autopsy showed history of drug use, but Coroner says she wasn’t impaired or incapacitated by drugs or alcohol at the time of the crash … none in blood … traces in urine?? 6) Fentanyl ( a cannabinoid) was administered during treatment at the hospital. They say her burns, smoke inhalation and the toxins meant they put her into an induced coma … she became brain dead apparently and shortly after the Family were rolling out tributes. All sounds a bit done and dusted … 🤔 7) Someone pulling themselves up off a stretcher … possibly realising these firemen weren’t expert paramedics and were trying to suffocate her … declare her dead prematurely … that doesn’t sound like a brain dead person … or even close to being brain dead. Who knows what happened in that ambulance with those sorts of ‘medics’ in attendance? 8) Re: the 2 minor prangs … and the major high speed crash with blaze …. I understand she pranged a guy’s garage door … and you can hear on video he repeatedly tells her to get out the car … being a lone woman … she refuses and he gets angry and she drives off …. has a scrape with a Jaguar …. then the next minute she is belting down a quiet street v.fast (60-70mph?) where most go 30mph … shoots out of control straight across a busy street and buries the car 30ft through a house setting it on fire. Let’s speculate … if her car had been ‘hacked’ and taken over … staging minor bumps twice while testing the control mechanism … before going for the major smash makes sense … also injecting her with fentanyl afterwards to make the public think she was off her head … with her drug history … it’s a neat way to dispatch someone in a way the Public will just roll with “another celeb behaving badly” … File under ‘self-inflicted’. Hmmm … too many oddities for many looking at this. … especially after the Michael Hastings incident.
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Post by Tinculin on Jun 9, 2023 23:02:09 GMT
1) Reports say 54 firemen were at the scene?? Why?
Why not?
2) An hour to get her out yet her hair isn’t singed?
She wasn’t the Center of the fire, she wasn’t on fire or she’s be burned to death. She was mostly inhaling smoke, which is the cause of her death.
3) If she was alive, why were expert burn paramedics not in attendance?
How do you know they were not? It’s safe to assume that firemen are trained in burn treatment but that’s not going to help treat someone who’s got lung damage from smoke inhalation.
4) Why was she wrapped up and face covered … barely able to breath, no drips … this looks all wrong.
If someone has smoke inhalation damage to their lungs, why would you think paramedics are going to piss around wasting valuable minutes to put a drip in your arm which won’t help your lungs?
The only thing which can help you, is hospital, quickly.
5) Autopsy showed history of drug use, but Coroner says she wasn’t impaired or incapacitated by drugs or alcohol at the time of the crash … none in blood … traces in urine??
So? She was a celeb, I’m sure she’s taken drugs in the past, that doesn’t mean she was drunk when this happened.
6) Fentanyl ( a cannabinoid) was administered during treatment at the hospital. They say her burns, smoke inhalation and the toxins meant they put her into an induced coma … she became brain dead apparently and shortly after the Family were rolling out tributes.
All sounds a bit done and dusted … 🤔
Fentanyl is a horrid and very dangerous drug. It’s quite possible this was administered to induce the coma and this is what killed her.
7) Someone pulling themselves up off a stretcher … possibly realising these firemen weren’t expert paramedics and were trying to suffocate her … declare her dead prematurely … that doesn’t sound like a brain dead person … or even close to being brain dead.
I agree. She wasn’t brain dead, or a zombie when she entered the ambulance.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 11, 2023 7:15:37 GMT
1) Reports say 54 firemen were at the scene?? Why? Why not? 2) An hour to get her out yet her hair isn’t singed? She wasn’t the Center of the fire, she wasn’t on fire or she’s be burned to death. She was mostly inhaling smoke, which is the cause of her death. 3) If she was alive, why were expert burn paramedics not in attendance? How do you know they were not? It’s safe to assume that firemen are trained in burn treatment but that’s not going to help treat someone who’s got lung damage from smoke inhalation. 4) Why was she wrapped up and face covered … barely able to breath, no drips … this looks all wrong. If someone has smoke inhalation damage to their lungs, why would you think paramedics are going to piss around wasting valuable minutes to put a drip in your arm which won’t help your lungs?The only thing which can help you, is hospital, quickly. 5) Autopsy showed history of drug use, but Coroner says she wasn’t impaired or incapacitated by drugs or alcohol at the time of the crash … none in blood … traces in urine?? So? She was a celeb, I’m sure she’s taken drugs in the past, that doesn’t mean she was drunk when this happened. 6) Fentanyl ( a cannabinoid) was administered during treatment at the hospital. They say her burns, smoke inhalation and the toxins meant they put her into an induced coma … she became brain dead apparently and shortly after the Family were rolling out tributes. All sounds a bit done and dusted … 🤔 Fentanyl is a horrid and very dangerous drug. It’s quite possible this was administered to induce the coma and this is what killed her.7) Someone pulling themselves up off a stretcher … possibly realising these firemen weren’t expert paramedics and were trying to suffocate her … declare her dead prematurely … that doesn’t sound like a brain dead person … or even close to being brain dead. I agree. She wasn’t brain dead, or a zombie when she entered the ambulance. From the way she was wrapped up … and the people around her when she was stretchered out … that looks to me like she wasn’t getting priority care and treatment for smoke inhalation and burns by medical experts dressed for the part …. 54 ‘firemen’ sounds very OTT … how many were genuine and there to help? … looks like their trucks were blocking the 1 Ambulance getting in for a quick exit. Why did these suspicious ‘firemen’ get in the ambulance? … why wasn’t she being given oxygen at the scene … ?? … instead of being wrapped up like a turkey. Many patients die in transit … most REAL paramedics always work hard to stabilise a victim and prep them for the journey …. to increase the chances of NOT being DOA. This looks like these botchers prematurely declared her dead … If some people somewhere wanted her dead … as you say Fentanyl was a sure fire way of doing serious damage in the wrong hands. What is evident is drugs and alcohol was ruled out as a cause … so was she being chased?? …. or was her car being remotely controlled ? …. If the CIA had ability to do that back in 2013 … as outlined in the Wikileaks clip I dropped above … it is quite feasible she might have been targeted … as this modern car likely had the sort of technology that made it easily hacked. It would be logical to engineer a couple of subtle ‘prangs’ first before the major smash …. and then have the ‘fentanyl’ in reserve … to give a nasty addictive cannabinoid drug reason she was acting irrationally and was responsible for her own death.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 11, 2023 7:26:11 GMT
Not being experts in medical procedure in these sorts of cases … maybe someone in this field, a paramedic and a fireman who both do rapid response to burn/smoke inhalation cases in America … would like to cast their eye over the OP video and comment?
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Post by Tinculin on Jun 11, 2023 8:30:13 GMT
She was witnessed committing two hit and runs Prior to this incident.
If your car lost control and you hit another vehicle, you’d still remain to handle the insurance etc.
Far more plausible is she was suffering some extreme mental distress and/or suicidle actions.
Just a none story.
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Post by wapentake on Jun 11, 2023 9:56:40 GMT
Not being experts in medical procedure in these sorts of cases … maybe someone in this field, a paramedic and a fireman who both do rapid response to burn/smoke inhalation cases in America … would like to cast their eye over the OP video and comment? I have a comment ( though I fit in none of the fields you demand)why would the cia with all the resources available go to the lengths of dressing up operatives as firemen,medical personnel,hacking in to a car when if they really wanted to be rid of her they could quietly enter her residence administer a drug and leave her to be found as being the victim of an overdose. I don’t wish to be rude but you see plots and secret missions to do this or that when there are none,you’ve been watching too many movies and rubbish on the web and converting it in to fact when it is all figments of imagination.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 12:55:10 GMT
I don’t wish to be rude but you see plots and secret missions to do this or that when there are none,you’ve been watching too many movies and rubbish on the web and converting it in to fact when it is all figments of imagination. Pretty much true I think, Wapentake. I would just add the rider that just occasionally the conspiracies are true, but it does tale a lot of picking through the bones to find any flesh on them. The fact it was her third "accident" that day said it all for me. She was driving like a woman possessed and guess what happened? She died.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 13, 2023 6:34:58 GMT
Not being experts in medical procedure in these sorts of cases … maybe someone in this field, a paramedic and a fireman who both do rapid response to burn/smoke inhalation cases in America … would like to cast their eye over the OP video and comment? I have a comment ( though I fit in none of the fields you demand)why would the cia with all the resources available go to the lengths of dressing up operatives as firemen,medical personnel,hacking in to a car when if they really wanted to be rid of her they could quietly enter her residence administer a drug and leave her to be found as being the victim of an overdose. I don’t wish to be rude but you see plots and secret missions to do this or that when there are none,you’ve been watching too many movies and rubbish on the web and converting it in to fact when it is all figments of imagination. I can understand that point of view …. but I generally take my evidence and data from official news sources and snippets here and there … picking out my own and others detail - going for an overview when the dust has settled a bit. … Some were picking up on the films she made recently … which I’ve only just seen tbh. The similarities to the 2013 Michael Hastings crash are obvious … his brushes upsetting certain highly influential v. powerful people. His exposé work on ex-CIA Chief John Bannon … which we are still interested to see … but will it ever come to light now?? People are intimidated and scared now in the WEST. ASSASSINATIONS like that ONLY USED TO HAPPEN IN TYRANNICAL REGIMES in the past. Journalists used to be respected here. …. People have to remember one thing … TPTB run Project Fear … maybe these “assassinations” are a public display of intimidation to shut down journalistic investigations and docu-style movies on certain subjects. A quiet overdose à la Marilyn Monroe(🤔?) ….doesn’t send the same message as a public burning inferno. … or a Bin Laden Family private plane crash. Quite a few analysts and Wikileaks docs are now pointing a finger suggesting this is a CIA practice … clearly designed to send a message to anyone exposing their agendas. It’s not just imagination at work here … many feel there are enough clues in this case to say this was something more than Heche having a ‘bad day’ celeb meltdown … after a fairly normal wig appointment earlier that morning. Was she being chased by the Jag car owner she accidentally scraped? … I’m open to other possibilities … but the ‘clean up’ operation … and poor aftercare … substandard for American healthcare in L.A. Celeb families would normally sue for that much incompetence.No??
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Post by bancroft on Jun 13, 2023 18:48:15 GMT
I remember Cameron's mate allegedly dying on a Portaloo at Glastonbury shortly after sending out a proposal to the Tory party about to ideas to save the Tories including Brexit.
Then David Shayler getting the 'Harry Palmer' mind altering program as happened to a health guru that built a radionics and bioresonance health device.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Jun 14, 2023 7:02:02 GMT
I remember Cameron's mate allegedly dying on a Portaloo at Glastonbury shortly after sending out a proposal to the Tory party about to ideas to save the Tories including Brexit. Then David Shayler getting the 'Harry Palmer' mind altering program as happened to a health guru that built a radionics and bioresonance health device. Although many people almost died going into Glastonbury portaloo’s in those days … I hear facilities are better run today 👍 Btw, Who was the health guru? … that sounds interesting … as my chem-trail/5G threads touched on resonance … but not in a healthy way … related to the damage it can do coupled with toxic metallic nano-particles crossing the mitochondrial cell membrane … possibly triggering cancers and genetic deformities.
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