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Post by zanygame on Jun 23, 2023 22:28:37 GMT
Mind zone or not . We have two cultists here who will make up any false claim or strawman to swerve away from a valid point that the AGW campaign should be headed by an eminent climate scientist capable of making a compelling case rather than an unqualified teenager . It’s rather sad . The valid point that Greta apparently leads the campaign for accepting AGW. So? I have pointed out that the information is there for all denialists to inspect. I don't see how Greta's opinions allow them to pretend climate change is not happening. How? By saying that if a young non scientist leads the campaign denialists are unwilling to look up what the real scientists say. A ridiculous argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 22:30:15 GMT
Dream on. You actually need a decent argument if you are going to avoid looking silly. Though that boat has probably already sailed, sadly. Not listening to the science because you find the youth and high profile of a particular campaigner obnoxious does nothing for your credentials as a serious contender in climate science debate. Most outside your little circle of denialists can see that because it is blatantly obvious. Still posting the lie that I’m an a denialist several posts after I told you otherwise ? Classic cultism . Still posting the lie that I am a cultist after several pages in which I have repeatedly told you otherwise? Classic denialism. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 23, 2023 22:36:33 GMT
Mind zone or not . We have two cultists here who will make up any false claim or strawman to swerve away from a valid point that the AGW campaign should be headed by an eminent climate scientist capable of making a compelling case rather than an unqualified teenager . It’s rather sad . The valid point that Greta apparently leads the campaign for accepting AGW. So? I have pointed out that the information is there for all denialists to inspect. I don't see how Greta's opinions allow them to pretend climate change is not happening. How? By saying that if a young non scientist leads the campaign denialists are unwilling to look up what the real scientists say. A ridiculous argument. Once again you make a false argument to deflect the narrative away from your cultism. The campaign for net zero on the premise that AGW will lead to catastrophic climate change should be headed by an eminent scientist capable of making a compelling argument rather than an unqualified teenager . Making up false claims doesn’t refute the obvious but false claims are the preferred tactic of cultists . Your cultist argument is the problem . |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 23, 2023 22:36:50 GMT
I used to call them the children of the corn, now they say they are the future, so I guess they have become the Hitler youth. They hate the argument that an eminent and articulate scientist should replace Greta as the face of the net zero campaign. Any false claim and strawman is fine to deflect away from the point . It’s pure cultism and it’s quite worrying tbh . Fear and psychology is the weapon of choice. |
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Post by Bentley on Jun 23, 2023 22:37:58 GMT
Still posting the lie that I’m an a denialist several posts after I told you otherwise ? Classic cultism . Still posting the lie that I am a cultist after several pages in which I have repeatedly told you otherwise? Classic denialism. I don’t deny AGW . Your false claim that I do is classic cultism. I accept AGW . I just don’t want to join your cult of Greta |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 22:39:46 GMT
I used to call them the children of the corn, now they say they are the future, so I guess they have become the Hitler youth. They hate the argument that an eminent and articulate scientist should replace Greta as the face of the net zero campaign. Any false claim and strawman is fine to deflect away from the point . It’s pure cultism and it’s quite worrying tbh . Absolute rubbish. No one heads the campaign. You have invented her as that head for your own dubious purposes. She is a campaigner, nothing more. I have already told you that I do not follow her. I follow the science. But that does not compute in your imaginary world so you invent a cult that does not exist, and mislabel all those not prepared to express utter disdain for a young person - oh my god a young person - daring to campaign about something as cultists. Calling me a cultist not only insults my intelligence but - rather more worryingly in the Mind Zone - is failing to demonstrate yours. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 23, 2023 22:41:32 GMT
The valid point that Greta apparently leads the campaign for accepting AGW. So? I have pointed out that the information is there for all denialists to inspect. I don't see how Greta's opinions allow them to pretend climate change is not happening. How? By saying that if a young non scientist leads the campaign denialists are unwilling to look up what the real scientists say. A ridiculous argument. Once again you make a false argument to deflect the narrative away from your cultism. The campaign for net zero on the premise that AGW will lead to catastrophic climate change should be headed by an eminent scientist capable of making a compelling argument rather than an unqualified teenager . Making up false claims doesn’t refute the obvious but false claims are the preferred tactic of cultists . Your cultist argument is the problem . As you said. Repeating yourself doesn't change my argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2023 22:42:35 GMT
Still posting the lie that I am a cultist after several pages in which I have repeatedly told you otherwise? Classic denialism. I don’t deny AGW . Your false claim that I do is classic cultism. I accept AGW . I just don’t want to join your cult of Greta That you insist on seeing a campaigner as a cult leader, and insist upon seeing me as one of her followers in spite of the fact that I do not follow her.....well that is the modus operandi of a typical denialist. If you dont want to be called a denialist, it might help if you stopped sounding like one. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jun 24, 2023 5:56:17 GMT
Once again you make a false argument to deflect the narrative away from your cultism. The campaign for net zero on the premise that AGW will lead to catastrophic climate change should be headed by an eminent scientist capable of making a compelling argument rather than an unqualified teenager . Making up false claims doesn’t refute the obvious but false claims are the preferred tactic of cultists . Your cultist argument is the problem . As you said. Repeating yourself doesn't change my argument. You don't have an argument Zany. You just have "faith". But have you ever considered that getting the developed world to abandon fossil fuels would be a very good way of impoverishing the West - and that there are a number of countries that would love to do that. And that spreading disinformation is very easy nowadays. |
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Post by Toreador on Jun 24, 2023 6:40:47 GMT
I used to call them the children of the corn, now they say they are the future, so I guess they have become the Hitler youth. They hate the argument that an eminent and articulate scientist should replace Greta as the face of the net zero campaign. Any false claim and strawman is fine to deflect away from the point . It’s pure cultism and it’s quite worrying tbh . If I may intervene without the risk of having my post being withdrawn, one reason ( there will be more ) is there are well informed scientists who aren't convinced by the warmist's arguments and will readily point out the everchanging revisions to the calculations when they don't produce the desired answer. |
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Post by see2 on Jun 24, 2023 7:47:29 GMT
They hate the argument that an eminent and articulate scientist should replace Greta as the face of the net zero campaign. Any false claim and strawman is fine to deflect away from the point . It’s pure cultism and it’s quite worrying tbh . If I may intervene without the risk of having my post being withdrawn, one reason ( there will be more ) is there are well informed scientists who aren't convinced by the warmist's arguments and will readily point out the everchanging revisions to the calculations when they don't produce the desired answer. I'm not sure why there is so much dispute over global warming. It is happening and regardless of what or who caused it, it is up to all of us to do what we can so as not to exacerbate the situation. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 24, 2023 7:58:55 GMT
As you said. Repeating yourself doesn't change my argument. You don't have an argument Zany. You just have "faith". But have you ever considered that getting the developed world to abandon fossil fuels would be a very good way of impoverishing the West - and that there are a number of countries that would love to do that. And that spreading disinformation is very easy nowadays. Clearly I do have an argument. I have fleshed it out clearly. Your return argument is that China is spending a fortune on renewable energy in order to spread disinformation to impoverish the West. Sounds pretty far fetched to me. |
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Post by zanygame on Jun 24, 2023 8:07:56 GMT
All the above has been discussed very many times with evidence presented and discounted as conspiracy.
The same old arguments that Its happened before, its natural, not all scientists agree (though never backed up with links).
None of it matters, the world is convinced and is taking action. You can pretend china is doing their part to fool the West, doesn't matter they are doing it.
Personally I'm fed up with being presented with 'whatsupwiththat' as equal evidence to NASA The CMA and the IPCC.
Carry on with your conspiracy theories you're losing.
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Post by Bentley on Jun 24, 2023 8:09:30 GMT
I don’t deny AGW . Your false claim that I do is classic cultism. I accept AGW . I just don’t want to join your cult of Greta That you insist on seeing a campaigner as a cult leader, and insist upon seeing me as one of her followers in spite of the fact that I do not follow her.....well that is the modus operandi of a typical denialist. If you dont want to be called a denialist, it might help if you stopped sounding like one. I don’t sound like one because I’ve told you that I agree with AGW . You sound like a cultist because you accuse me of being a denialist to hide your cultism . That’s what cultist do . |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 24, 2023 8:12:34 GMT
All the above has been discussed very many times with evidence presented and discounted as conspiracy. The same old arguments that Its happened before, its natural, not all scientists agree (though never backed up with links). None of it matters, the world is convinced and is taking action. You can pretend china is doing their part to fool the West, doesn't matter they are doing it. Personally I'm fed up with being presented with 'whatsupwiththat' as equal evidence to NASA The CMA and the IPCC. Carry on with your conspiracy theories you're losing. You are the one who is losing Zany. I am sooo happy for you. |
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