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Post by Orac on May 26, 2023 7:58:50 GMT
Not really. It barely registers on my excitometer at all.
If I want a NHS GP appointment i presently have to argue with a receptionist and fake an Indian accent. In the future i will have to use a magnifying glass to debug a government mobile application.
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Post by andrewbrown on May 26, 2023 9:11:41 GMT
I already order my repeat prescription via the NHS app, which is fab.
I wish we could do the same with gp appointments. I went in to my surgery last week to get an appointment and was pleased to be offered one that afternoon. No fake Indian accent required. (I have no idea why you would think someone's accent gets priority appointments! 😂)
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 9:17:42 GMT
Given that it works, would not using "Labour says it would turn the NHS app into a one-stop shop for booking GP appointments, ordering repeat prescriptions, age-related check-up alerts, and accessing patient records", a totally wasted opportunity by the Tories, be an improvement? Lots of things worked at one time until useless people got involved and there are plenty of them sheltering in the NHS. That's a "that won't work so lets not try it attitude" I did not realise you were so negative. |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 9:18:37 GMT
REAL Evidence suggests that the Labour policy WILL have the desired effect - raise billions for our NHS
Reforms in 2017 which restricted access to the non-dom regime for long-staying non-doms led to just 0.2% of them leaving the UK. Among more recent arrivals, who had been in the UK for less than three years, around 2% left as a result of the reform. These findings refute concerns raised by George Osborne during the 2015 General Election, that abolishing non-dom status could ‘cost Britain money’ due to a mass exodus. For this to occur, the migration response would have to be more than 15 times larger than found by this study.
Arun Advani, Associate Professor at the University of Warwick’s Economics Department and CAGE Research Centre, said: “Historically, arguments against abolition of the non-dom regime rested on uncertainty about whether it would raise any money. It’s now plain to see that it does, so supporters of the status quo need to find a new case for its defence.”
Andy Summers, Associate Professor at LSE Law School and III, said: “Non-doms receive ten times as much investment income offshore as they report in the UK. By rewarding non-doms for keeping their investments abroad, the current tax rules harm our economy as well as being unfair on ordinary taxpayers who must pay tax on their worldwide income.”
The conclusions in the opening post are based upon what evidence ?, they are merely conclusions from a bunch of civil servants.
ITs ALWAYS the same with the Tories, they always think of reasons or excuses as to why things cannot be done, instead of trying to fix things.
Same in 1997 when Labour brought forward legislation to introduce the Minimum Wage, the Tories oppossed it, and predicted that it would lead to unemployment.
Tory predictions virtualy never come true, you only have to look at immigration
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Post by Fairsociety on May 26, 2023 10:01:20 GMT
REAL Evidence suggests that the Labour policy WILL have the desired effect - raise billions for our NHSReforms in 2017 which restricted access to the non-dom regime for long-staying non-doms led to just 0.2% of them leaving the UK. Among more recent arrivals, who had been in the UK for less than three years, around 2% left as a result of the reform. These findings refute concerns raised by George Osborne during the 2015 General Election, that abolishing non-dom status could ‘cost Britain money’ due to a mass exodus. For this to occur, the migration response would have to be more than 15 times larger than found by this study. Arun Advani, Associate Professor at the University of Warwick’s Economics Department and CAGE Research Centre, said: “Historically, arguments against abolition of the non-dom regime rested on uncertainty about whether it would raise any money. It’s now plain to see that it does, so supporters of the status quo need to find a new case for its defence.” Andy Summers, Associate Professor at LSE Law School and III, said: “Non-doms receive ten times as much investment income offshore as they report in the UK. By rewarding non-doms for keeping their investments abroad, the current tax rules harm our economy as well as being unfair on ordinary taxpayers who must pay tax on their worldwide income.” The conclusions in the opening post are based upon what evidence ?, they are merely conclusions from a bunch of civil servants. ITs ALWAYS the same with the Tories, they always think of reasons or excuses as to why things cannot be done, instead of trying to fix things. Same in 1997 when Labour brought forward legislation to introduce the Minimum Wage, the Tories oppossed it, and predicted that it would lead to unemployment. Tory predictions virtualy never come true, you only have to look at immigration lol@sid |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 26, 2023 10:08:47 GMT
I already order my repeat prescription via the NHS app, which is fab. I wish we could do the same with gp appointments. I went in to my surgery last week to get an appointment and was pleased to be offered one that afternoon. No fake Indian accent required. (I have no idea why you would think someone's accent gets priority appointments! 😂) So thanks to the Tories the NHS is working just fine for you ...... LOL |
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Post by andrewbrown on May 26, 2023 10:32:08 GMT
It worked for me last week.
I'm saying there is a facility to order repeat prescriptions, which is great.
There is currently no facility to book a GP appointment via the app, which I would like to see.
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Post by Toreador on May 26, 2023 11:12:20 GMT
Lots of things worked at one time until useless people got involved and there are plenty of them sheltering in the NHS. That's a "that won't work so lets not try it attitude" I did not realise you were so negative.I'm not, I'm just more experienced that you, vastly so. |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 26, 2023 11:27:42 GMT
One of their solutions is to increase borrowing by 20% - apparently the road to success is going to be on tick..  Have you seen Tory borrowing? Have you seen any benefits from it? To be fair, fraudsters did rather well out of the gazillions borrowed to give everyone a free lunch with their house arrest. But had they not done that, most of the country would have resembled a corner of Ely, Cardiff long ago as starvation and destitution gave millions nothing further to live for |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 13:01:58 GMT
That's a "that won't work so lets not try it attitude" I did not realise you were so negative.I'm not, I'm just more experienced that you, vastly so. In what? |
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Post by dodgydave on May 27, 2023 0:48:49 GMT
REAL Evidence suggests that the Labour policy WILL have the desired effect - raise billions for our NHS Reforms in 2017 which restricted access to the non-dom regime for long-staying non-doms led to just 0.2% of them leaving the UK. Among more recent arrivals, who had been in the UK for less than three years, around 2% left as a result of the reform. These findings refute concerns raised by George Osborne during the 2015 General Election, that abolishing non-dom status could ‘cost Britain money’ due to a mass exodus. For this to occur, the migration response would have to be more than 15 times larger than found by this study. Arun Advani, Associate Professor at the University of Warwick’s Economics Department and CAGE Research Centre, said: “Historically, arguments against abolition of the non-dom regime rested on uncertainty about whether it would raise any money. It’s now plain to see that it does, so supporters of the status quo need to find a new case for its defence.” Andy Summers, Associate Professor at LSE Law School and III, said: “Non-doms receive ten times as much investment income offshore as they report in the UK. By rewarding non-doms for keeping their investments abroad, the current tax rules harm our economy as well as being unfair on ordinary taxpayers who must pay tax on their worldwide income.” The conclusions in the opening post are based upon what evidence ?, they are merely conclusions from a bunch of civil servants. ITs ALWAYS the same with the Tories, they always think of reasons or excuses as to why things cannot be done, instead of trying to fix things. Same in 1997 when Labour brought forward legislation to introduce the Minimum Wage, the Tories oppossed it, and predicted that it would lead to unemployment. Tory predictions virtualy never come true, you only have to look at immigration A lefty professor not agreeing with the treasury... wow what a shocker. Non-Dom status is not to dodge tax, it is to avoid double taxation for people who are here temporarily. What the treasury are saying is that yes there won't be a mass exodus, but what will happen is that less people will come, which will result in less tax take, not more. Forget billionaires, they are just a political swear word... and think about people like footballers. eg a Spanish footballer become successful and starts to invest his money in property and businesses in Spain. If you hit them with double taxation they will simply not come to the UK. This nutty professor thinking the Spanish footballer will shut down his Spanish investments and instead start investing in the UK is living in cuckoo land... the dude is Spanish... when he is done playing football in England he will return to Spanish... so why would he want his nest egg in the UK?  |
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Post by see2 on May 27, 2023 8:22:47 GMT
"Flagship Labour tax raid -- would -- cost Britain £350m a year". ITS AN OPINION IN A TORY NEWSPAPER.
It even managed to bring up an idea that had already been scrapped by Labour. I think there are signs of desperation coming from the Tories. Can you be objective for once in your life? Your point about it being a " tory newspaper" is beyond stupid. The left media scrutinize the political right, the right media scrutinize the political left. Yes you have to engage your brain and think about the merit of what they are saying keeping in mind their bias, but to dismiss it out of hand is to condemn yourself to live in a warped echo chamber. It is not an "opinion", they are quoting what the treasury thinks will happen. Did you know they are planning to "replace" non-Dom and not scrap it? I can guarantee you 90% of the population don't as they have been keeping that firmly in the small print... because they have strayed into populism!!
If it is a thought then it is an opinion, an opinion about something that hasn't happened and therefore may not happen. Let's see what happens, what is said, between now and the election. If you were capable of being objective i.e. escaping from your bias, your language would be entirely different. I will await the information available leading up to the next election. If I want denigration and or insinuation I'll just read the comments from the Righties on the forum. Objectivity fades where subjectivity rules. Subjectivity lives in anger/irritation/emotions. |
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Post by sheepy on May 27, 2023 8:31:17 GMT
Bad news I am afraid, if they were populist you would have to vote on it first in a referendum. Not as some kind of package deal. So, at some point the Westminster party can say but this is part of what you voted for.
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Post by dodgydave on May 29, 2023 1:14:21 GMT
Can you be objective for once in your life? Your point about it being a " tory newspaper" is beyond stupid. The left media scrutinize the political right, the right media scrutinize the political left. Yes you have to engage your brain and think about the merit of what they are saying keeping in mind their bias, but to dismiss it out of hand is to condemn yourself to live in a warped echo chamber. It is not an "opinion", they are quoting what the treasury thinks will happen. Did you know they are planning to "replace" non-Dom and not scrap it? I can guarantee you 90% of the population don't as they have been keeping that firmly in the small print... because they have strayed into populism!!
If it is a thought then it is an opinion, an opinion about something that hasn't happened and therefore may not happen. Let's see what happens, what is said, between now and the election. If you were capable of being objective i.e. escaping from your bias, your language would be entirely different. I will await the information available leading up to the next election. If I want denigration and or insinuation I'll just read the comments from the Righties on the forum. Objectivity fades where subjectivity rules. Subjectivity lives in anger/irritation/emotions. What bias do I have exactly? Expecting politicians to tell the truth? Starmer has been saying he going to pay for extra doctors and nurses, FULLY FUNDED, by scrapping non-Dom status... now that is being called out as populist bollocks he whispers about it being "replaced" with something like what the French do lol. I know he is talking shit, because I used to work for HMRC, so I understand clearly what non-Dom is and isn't. Engage your brain, look at what he is going after, non-Doms and windfall taxes on energy companies. Why do you suppose he picked those two? Nothing to do with populism / ideology? lol. I want better public services, but I want a proper plan for funding them, not some populist bollocks that belongs on the side of a big red bus! |
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Post by johnofgwent on May 29, 2023 8:24:42 GMT
Non-Dom status is not to dodge tax, it is to avoid double taxation for people who are here temporarily. Are you sure you are not mistaken ? I have never enjoyed non dom status yet in the years after Major lied to us about Maastricht and Blair lied to us about Lisbon i went and ripped the French, Belgians and Italians off a whole swag bag load of Francs and Lira The italians sent me forms in advance offering me a choice of paying tax in italy from lira banked in italy in exchange for a letter telling tbe uk taxman to fuck off, or choosing instead to have tbe italian taxman rat on me to the uk who would tax me in british pounds after the banks did the financial equivalent of rape and pillage of nearly 20% in ‘fees’ to create english pounds in an english bank account. I chose in that case to pay the italians and tell the bank mafia to fuck off and take the UK HMRC with them. The French gave me no such paperwork but a year later the UK HMRC gave me an option to pay the french (losing another 15% converting uk pounds to francs) or paying them on the basis of the amount in pounds i’d imported. I chose the latter and with it had the pleasure of giving tbe french an agincourt salute The Belgians, strangely, didn’t care about taxing me so i left that money in an interest bearing account in jersey and spent it while on holiday there. I presume their disinterest is connected to the fact the tax fiddling european parliament has been there for decades. My point is THAT is what double taxation indemnity is about. Not paying tax twice. You don't need to be a non dom to take advantage of that. Non Dom status is all about living here for as long as you like while paying NO tax here at all on earnings made in places like Dubai who don’t believe in tax as the poor in their view don’t deserve to live |
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