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Post by borchester on May 25, 2023 12:50:14 GMT
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 25, 2023 14:27:06 GMT
What he really means is that he is institutionally incompetent.
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Post by patman post on May 25, 2023 14:51:21 GMT
What he really means is that he is institutionally incompetent. Seems so — he's been in charge since August 2018, and was Deputy Chief Constable before that.
He's also been through the sexual allegations mill (though he was ultimately cleared):...
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Post by bancroft on May 25, 2023 15:04:38 GMT
So he is saying Police Scotland is institutionally racist?
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 25, 2023 15:29:49 GMT
What he really means is that he is institutionally incompetent. Seems so — he's been in charge since August 2018, and was Deputy Chief Constable before that.
He's also been through the sexual allegations mill (though he was ultimately cleared):...
Indeed. The whole "Institutional" Racism/Sexism/Homophobia/Anything else schtick has been warmly embraced by every senior officer since the McPherson enquiry because it detracts from and excuses their failures of management and supervision.
And, of course, it's hogwash.
But let's pretend for one second that it's real: Stephen Lawrence was thirty years ago. Thirty years. If the senior management maintain that their organisations are still "Institutionally racist" then they need to explain why after three decades that they've still failed to tackle it.
Perhaps they should admit that it doesn't actually exist - but they're too far down the rabbit hole for that. So meanwhile they settle for blaming everything on that while creating themselves an insoluble problem. Or maybe that's the plan: They know they're shit at policing so they'd prefer to spend their time chasing ghosts.
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Post by patman post on May 25, 2023 15:31:19 GMT
So he is saying Police Scotland is institutionally racist? That would appear to be the meaning of the headline and first sentence in the link... |
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Post by bancroft on May 25, 2023 15:41:55 GMT
So he is saying Police Scotland is institutionally racist? That would appear to be the meaning of the headline and first sentence in the link... Yes stating the obvious as so often Police issues seem only to relate to the Met. |
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Post by wapentake on May 25, 2023 21:37:30 GMT
First the SNP now police Scotland,still Krankie could claim they’re institutionally unionist and all allegations are false.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2023 21:56:20 GMT
All white people are racist and all British institutions are institutionally racist and will be while they still exist. Racism is exclusive to white people because they cannot be a minority in a majority white country or region of the world. Therefore this propaganda cannot be accused of being racist, even though it's crafted to pit race against race.
The accusation of institutional racism will keep being pushed, because there's no sane way to satisfy the thirst.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 26, 2023 4:37:50 GMT
And it makes a convenient excuse for institutional incompetence.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 26, 2023 5:39:35 GMT
Well I suppose since the Met said they were 'institutionally racist', the Scottish police didn't want to be left out. Thrashing themselves for 'institutional racism' seems to the trendy thing to do for large organisations such as the police and fire brigade. The result of all this virtue signalling will inevitably mean the diversity bar must be lowered, again. |
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Post by Vinny on May 26, 2023 9:36:01 GMT
Scotland's Parliament is institutionally racist (against the English) so it's hardly surprising that a Police organisation under the control of it would be too.
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Post by patman post on May 26, 2023 11:17:15 GMT
That would appear to be the meaning of the headline and first sentence in the link... Yes stating the obvious as so often Police issues seem only to relate to the Met. True, the Met is often the target, but it is the force facing the most publicly paraded incidents of failure and wrongdoings. Even now, the new commissioner seems desperately to be trying to appear as a new broom, perhaps spurred on by the increasing attention his own performance is attracting… |
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Post by bancroft on May 26, 2023 12:27:52 GMT
Yes stating the obvious as so often Police issues seem only to relate to the Met. True, the Met is often the target, but it is the force facing the most publicly paraded incidents of failure and wrongdoings. Even now, the new commissioner seems desperately to be trying to appear as a new broom, perhaps spurred on by the increasing attention his own performance is attracting… I'm not aware of there being many Black people in Scotland yet they are in London and I would acknowledge that a lot of the racism charges against the Met come from not even the Black community yet Caribbean community or their descendents. |
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Post by patman post on May 26, 2023 12:57:05 GMT
True, the Met is often the target, but it is the force facing the most publicly paraded incidents of failure and wrongdoings. Even now, the new commissioner seems desperately to be trying to appear as a new broom, perhaps spurred on by the increasing attention his own performance is attracting… I'm not aware of there being many Black people in Scotland yet they are in London and I would acknowledge that a lot of the racism charges against the Met come from not even the Black community yet Caribbean community or their descendents. I admit that I don't quite follow what your point is, but Scotland is not entirely inhabited by people of one ethnicity...
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