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Post by steppenwolf on May 23, 2023 12:13:48 GMT
Has anybody watched the footage of "Stop Oil" blocking London Bridge? It's absolutely astonishing - except it's become the norm nowadays when everybody seems to hate this country.
These total prats - who don't understand that oil is the greenest fuel, bar none - were blocking the road when one of the blokes in a van that they were blocking got out and started pushing them off the road. He was doing quite a good job until two of the police who had been standing around doing fuck all apart from chatting to the numpties blocking the road decided to attack him and handcuff him. WTF.
This I'm sure will go viral - and may well be the end of Stop Oil. No one can stand by and watch the police prevent people getting to work while idiots are blocking the roads. The police have become totally politicised and now need root and branch reform.
I predict that the bloke who tried to clear the road will become a hero. He certainly deserves to.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2023 19:02:32 GMT
It is beyond a joke. Criminals blocking roads are facilitated by Police. Heroes clearing the roads so that honest working people can get on with their lives gets pounced on by police and arrested. The world is upside down.
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Post by Bentley on May 23, 2023 19:08:27 GMT
Has anybody watched the footage of "Stop Oil" blocking London Bridge? It's absolutely astonishing - except it's become the norm nowadays when everybody seems to hate this country. These total prats - who don't understand that oil is the greenest fuel, bar none - were blocking the road when one of the blokes in a van that they were blocking got out and started pushing them off the road. He was doing quite a good job until two of the police who had been standing around doing fuck all apart from chatting to the numpties blocking the road decided to attack him and handcuff him. WTF. This I'm sure will go viral - and may well be the end of Stop Oil. No one can stand by and watch the police prevent people getting to work while idiots are blocking the roads. The police have become totally politicised and now need root and branch reform. I predict that the bloke who tried to clear the road will become a hero. He certainly deserves to. If he’s done anything shady in the past it will come to light and even if he hadn’t the left will claim that he is ‘far right ‘.
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Post by wapentake on May 23, 2023 22:16:13 GMT
Powers were introduced we were told that would stop protests like this,they were misused at Charlie’s coronation the politicians pressured the senior lawmen who then pressured the cops on the ground.
Now and because net zero is the watch word and we are not royal they really don’t seem to care,obviously the bloke did assault the protesters I sympathise but he broke the law.
People trying to go about their lawful occasion as it was called being prevented and those breaking the law (the protesters) being shown great latitude it will all end in tears and someone badly hurt or worse if the law is not applied and fairly.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 24, 2023 7:10:45 GMT
Now and because net zero is the watch word and we are not royal they really don’t seem to care,obviously the bloke did assault the protesters I sympathise but he broke the law. The demonstrators also broke the law of "obstructing the highway". They claim that because they're moving (very slowly) they're not breaking that law but this has never been tested in court. So the police should either arrest them and get the law tested in court or make a better law. Also there are many other laws that they're breaking - "behaviour liable to lead to a breach of the peace" for example. I can't understand why this hasn't become a major issue for the police. There's something wrong with this country - and this forum. It's full of Lefties.
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Post by Orac on May 24, 2023 11:00:15 GMT
It has nothing to do with the law or any changes to it.
High level police management are activists and are using their positions to conduct a series of passive aggressive assaults on the UK public.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 13:12:27 GMT
It has nothing to do with the law or any changes to it. High level police management are activists and are using their positions to conduct a series of passive aggressive assaults on the UK public. I'm not so sure about that. Even though there must be officers with affiliations with the loony stop oilers, all officers are not allowed to be a member of any political party or similar, so if they are acting in cohorts, they are acting illegally.
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Post by Orac on May 24, 2023 13:18:04 GMT
It has nothing to do with the law or any changes to it. High level police management are activists and are using their positions to conduct a series of passive aggressive assaults on the UK public. I'm not so sure about that. Even though there must be officers with affiliations with the loony stop oilers, all officers are not allowed to be a member of any political party or similar, so if they are acting in cohorts, they are acting illegally. I don't think they are specifically stop oil activists. Rather, I feel they are using their positions to engage in a broad sabotage of society. It's certainly illegal.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 25, 2023 7:58:02 GMT
The people who are in charge of the police are Left wing academics - not policemen. They're politicians in all but name. And you can bet your life that they're sympathetic to these loonies.
What gets me is that Stop Oil is barking mad. No matter what your views on climate change it's obvious that the developed world will have to rely on oil for decades to come - and it's a very clean fuel nowadays.
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Post by Orac on May 25, 2023 8:28:26 GMT
The situation is quite serious and is tied into the borked education system and its fake credentials.
The conservatives allowed the left to turn our education institutions into Marxist re-education centres. We now have an incompetent, often mentally ill, management class - i.e. people who have been carefully selected for either, an inability to engage in rational thought or a devious willingness to say anything they are told to say regardless of reality.
the capstone on the situation was to make a university education a pre-requisite for management - which means our management class were all brought up in the same mental health care centre.
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Post by wapentake on May 25, 2023 9:46:00 GMT
That’s the way to do it.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2023 14:09:39 GMT
Those German cops are far too soft.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 26, 2023 12:07:00 GMT
It has nothing to do with the law or any changes to it. High level police management are activists and are using their positions to conduct a series of passive aggressive assaults on the UK public. I'm not so sure about that. Even though there must be officers with affiliations with the loony stop oilers, all officers are not allowed to be a member of any political party or similar, so if they are acting in cohorts, they are acting illegally. Its not the police, its the political appointees to the position of Police and Crime Commissioner Our first PCC was an ex copper standing as an independent candidate. Yes, you heard that right For some fucking unbelieveable reason Police and Crime Commissioners can be nominated by political parties The current twat is a labour appointee This explains a lot round here.
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Post by Orac on May 26, 2023 14:12:56 GMT
I'm not so sure about that. Even though there must be officers with affiliations with the loony stop oilers, all officers are not allowed to be a member of any political party or similar, so if they are acting in cohorts, they are acting illegally. Its not the police, its the political appointees to the position of Police and Crime Commissioner Our first PCC was an ex copper standing as an independent candidate. Yes, you heard that right For some fucking unbelieveable reason Police and Crime Commissioners can be nominated by political parties The current twat is a labour appointee This explains a lot round here. Some bright spark a filed FOI request to try to get to the bottom of what the police imagine they are doing. The reply is interesting but makes little sense. If you read between the lines of their reply, the police appear to claim that it is a matter of their discretion whether a protest is illegitimate or 'overly disruptive'. However, this notion doesn't really answer the core intent of the question. If this is a matter of police's discretion (which I doubt is the case), why are the police abusively mis-using that discretion to allow six people to seriously inconvenience hundreds or thousand of other people going about their daily lives? The thing is - this is the same question and it remains un-answered. I believe senior officers have been hauled in front of committees to explain their behaviour and the government has attempted to correct the bizarre standards being used by the police - to no apparent avail. Perhaps it might be time to start making some serious noises to the affect that, if the police are no longer under the jurisdiction of the UK government (and people) in terms of interpretation of the law, then the funding must change to reflect that loss of control - ie if the senior police management want to run the police as their private political enforcement body, they really need to fund it privately themselves.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 27, 2023 7:03:10 GMT
I guess the police have some discretion on how disruptive a protest is but it's hard to believe that any rational person could regard a protest that prevents traffic moving faster than about 2mph as "not overly disruptive". And even if they do there's also the other law of "behaviour liable to lead to a breach of the peace" and they'd obviously breached that law because a breach of the peace occurred. So at that point the police should have taken action to stop the protest.
It's acceptable for the police to prevent the guy who was pushing the protestors off the road - but ONLY if they then arrest the protestors. And the force used against the guy trying to clear the road was obviously excessive. According to the guy himself they were also very abusive, and that's unacceptable too.
I'm surprised that there hasn't been a bigger reaction to this travesty.
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