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May 24, 2023 14:07:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 14:07:01 GMT
What did you want, that the guy who took matters into his own hands should politely ask the accompanying police to disperse them to allow traffic to pass. It's a fucking good job your ilk has little influence of right thinking people. What next, blocking railway lines and airports. It's like talking to a defective drone that is incapable of learning anything.
Oh, am I being taught something?
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May 24, 2023 14:07:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 14:07:41 GMT
That's been tried and failed. And blocking the roads are a success ? It gets it in the media so, yes I would say it works.
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May 24, 2023 14:08:05 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on May 24, 2023 14:08:05 GMT
He agrees with anything that upsets the running, and makes people unhappy and miserable, the lefty mob hate to see people enjoying themselves, having a good time and going about their daily lives normally, he's not alone, it's a lefty trait. The lefty Unions will be thinking of ways to cause havoc and misery at airports/railways/ferries when it's the kids school holidays, the baggage handlers, passport control will be all out to make people unhappy. What have protests got to do with the unions? Errr because they have the same effect on ordinary law abiding decent members of society.........their intent is to make their lives a Misery.
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May 24, 2023 14:09:14 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 14:09:14 GMT
And blocking the roads are a success ? What RedRum means, if what he posts draws attention to himself on this forum in the same way, if he agreed with normal people he'd be ignored, so he's nothing short of a attention seeker, he agrees and supports anything that is controversial because it gets him noticed, when in the 'real' world he's ignored for the insignificant person that he is. I'm afraid you lack the ability to understand what I believe even though it is quite clear from my posts on the matter.
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May 24, 2023 14:12:08 GMT
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Post by Vinny on May 24, 2023 14:12:08 GMT
The protestors had no need to hold up traffic . They could of made their point in another way. The protesters became an anti social rabble at the point where they broke the law and stopped traffic. What other way would you suggest? Standing outside the Houses of Parliament and being a nuisance to politicians rather than the public is the traditional way. Or failing that lobbying MPs, going to constituency surgeries. Actually talking to people, and crucially, talking to the car industry, to companies which actually produce generating equipment and so on. It's not necessary to behave like a fucking twat.
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May 24, 2023 14:15:56 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on May 24, 2023 14:15:56 GMT
What RedRum means, if what he posts draws attention to himself on this forum in the same way, if he agreed with normal people he'd be ignored, so he's nothing short of a attention seeker, he agrees and supports anything that is controversial because it gets him noticed, when in the 'real' world he's ignored for the insignificant person that he is. I'm afraid you lack the ability to understand what I believe even though it is quite clear from my posts on the matter. No, what is quite clear that every single morally decent law abiding people of this country you seek great pleasure in watching them being antagonised, and their lives disrupted by the loony left woke snowflakes, even though I strongly suspect you know differently it serves your purpose to 'wind' us up.
Just to be clear, in the real world you would be ignored for the insignificant person that you are, so get your attention here, it's the only place anyone will acknowledge you in any way, shape or form.
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May 24, 2023 14:17:42 GMT
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Post by Orac on May 24, 2023 14:17:42 GMT
No one, including myself is denying the right to protest, it's our democratic right to do so, but I strongly object to protesters committing criminal offenses in the process.
They are peacefully committing a crime, they can protest till their hearts content as long as is it classed within the realms of legal.
Protests always cause inconvenience to someone, You are conflating protest with obstruction or assault - probably using the same motivated reasoning that allows you to conflate self defence with assault. An example of protesting would be some of the protesters at the recent coronation of our new king. They just protested rather than assaulting or obstructing people. If you literally have to obstruct people to make them listen, you likely have an unfortunate mental condition and people are ignoring you for good reasons.
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May 24, 2023 14:47:12 GMT
Post by Toreador on May 24, 2023 14:47:12 GMT
It is not illegal to stop criminals in the act, just like if you were outside that supermarket with the old lady at the cash machine who was causing a big queue, and someone robbed her, as a citizen we would be able to use reasonable force to apprehend the culprit in his/her act of crime, and that's what road uses are doing, stopping criminals.
Self defence I understand but this is not the case these vigilantes are 'targeting' peaceful protesters, who will be next?More peaceful protesters on the grounds they are stopping people earning a living.
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May 24, 2023 14:50:15 GMT
Post by Toreador on May 24, 2023 14:50:15 GMT
You appear to be agreeing with me! I do agree that the protesters are using the wrong tactics by 'obstructing' the highway but nobody has the right to assault them in their protest.It is the police who are to blame and one has to wonder why they do not use their powers. Could it be because arresting pensioners would not be a good look and would cause uproar in the general population? Which in turn would give the protesters the 'platform' that they want. Citizen's arrest which could get them injured if they resist. Now go away, get some sense of proportion.
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May 24, 2023 14:52:27 GMT
Post by Toreador on May 24, 2023 14:52:27 GMT
It's like talking to a defective drone that is incapable of learning anything.
Oh, am I being taught something? I doubt it will have any effect.
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May 24, 2023 14:56:38 GMT
Post by Fairsociety on May 24, 2023 14:56:38 GMT
I'm afraid you lack the ability to understand what I believe even though it is quite clear from my posts on the matter. No, what is quite clear that every single morally decent law abiding people of this country you seek great pleasure in watching them being antagonised, and their lives disrupted by the loony left woke snowflakes, even though I strongly suspect you know differently it serves your purpose to 'wind' us up.
Just to be clear, in the real world you would be ignored for the insignificant person that you are, so get your attention here, it's the only place anyone will acknowledge you in any way, shape or form.
Are we getting there at last, we've been asked many times to define 'woke' 'snowflakes' but are we getting there at last?
Seems those who go through life 'unnoticed' but want to be noticed realise that they aren't being noticed for being upstanding pillars of the community, doing and thinking what we morally accept as 'normal'.
They have devised new ways of getting themselves noticed, and that is by being controversial, they don't care how they get attention as long as they get it.
It's a mental illness, and more research needs doing.
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May 24, 2023 17:23:42 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 17:23:42 GMT
What have protests got to do with the unions? Errr because they have the same effect on ordinary law abiding decent members of society.........their intent is to make their lives a Misery. Their intent is to get decent wages, do you not believe nurses, doctors........ should be fairly compensated for their efforts?
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May 24, 2023 17:24:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 17:24:52 GMT
What other way would you suggest? Standing outside the Houses of Parliament and being a nuisance to politicians rather than the public is the traditional way. Or failing that lobbying MPs, going to constituency surgeries. Actually talking to people, and crucially, talking to the car industry, to companies which actually produce generating equipment and so on. It's not necessary to behave like a fucking twat. Hmmm, that's not allowed now.
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May 24, 2023 17:25:55 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 17:25:55 GMT
I'm afraid you lack the ability to understand what I believe even though it is quite clear from my posts on the matter. No, what is quite clear that every single morally decent law abiding people of this country you seek great pleasure in watching them being antagonised, and their lives disrupted by the loony left woke snowflakes, even though I strongly suspect you know differently it serves your purpose to 'wind' us up.
Just to be clear, in the real world you would be ignored for the insignificant person that you are, so get your attention here, it's the only place anyone will acknowledge you in any way, shape or form.
You give me far to much credit.😒
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May 24, 2023 17:26:44 GMT
Post by Deleted on May 24, 2023 17:26:44 GMT
I do agree that the protesters are using the wrong tactics by 'obstructing' the highway but nobody has the right to assault them in their protest.It is the police who are to blame and one has to wonder why they do not use their powers. Could it be because arresting pensioners would not be a good look and would cause uproar in the general population? Which in turn would give the protesters the 'platform' that they want. Citizen's arrest which could get them injured if they resist. Now go away, get some sense of proportion. A citizen's arrest is fine but assault is not.
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