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Post by Vinny on May 19, 2023 22:29:07 GMT
Going by the ONS Pink Book stats, Brexit is adding more than £90bn a year to the economy in boosted trade.
Quit crying remoaners, get yourselves a beer get over it.
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Post by oracle75 on May 20, 2023 0:49:04 GMT
You have absolutely zero knowledge that any part of any trade involving the uk is due to Brexit.
Not even professional economists admit they can attribute any part of it to Brexit.
By Brexit bonuses i assume you are talking about FDI going elsewhere, companies choosing to leave the FTSE, chronic job vacancies since the country kicked out European workers and are now paying agencies to source them from half way around the world. And you still have waiting lists in the NHS of months due to lack of staff.
Ah yes. Those bonuses.
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Post by oracle75 on May 20, 2023 0:56:38 GMT
Going by the ONS Pink Book stats, Brexit is adding more than £90bn a year to the economy in boosted trade. Quit crying remoaners, get yourselves a beer get over it. According to your pink book the UK is still underperforming relative to the other G7 economies. Wherever you look, the story is the same. cognitive dissonance is perfectly exemplified in your unbalanced need to see a unicorn. Now what Brexit bonuses? |
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 1:17:58 GMT
You are still on ignore.
But thanks for the thread boost.
Enjoy the benefits of Brexit.
Economy is generating £90+bn in exports above the days of membership.
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Post by oracle75 on May 20, 2023 7:10:30 GMT
Dont lie. You wouldnt see my posts if you are ignoring me.
Lets put your boast of 90 billion brexit benefit into context.
The cost of JUST the NHS is 152.6 billion per year.
Education cost 57 billion per year.
Your boast that brexit has allowed 90 billion which would have happened anyway is comparatively tiny to the UK's annual GDP of over 3 Billion.
I dont know why you spend every day displaying your ignorance.
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 7:23:16 GMT
You are still on ignore. You can knock, and the thread boost is appreciated, but experience shows you've no points to make and a foul temper when you're disproven, which happens a lot, Kim.
If were I take you off, all that would happen is the odd angry deceitful response full of typos and occasional abusive PMs like last time, so no.
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Post by buccaneer on May 20, 2023 9:41:18 GMT
You are still on ignore. But thanks for the thread boost. Enjoy the benefits of Brexit. Economy is generating £90+bn in exports above the days of membership. Seems like your thread has triggered Kim, Vinny.  |
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Post by buccaneer on May 20, 2023 9:57:17 GMT
Going by the ONS Pink Book stats, Brexit is adding more than £90bn a year to the economy in boosted trade. Quit crying remoaners, get yourselves a beer get over it. According to your pink book the UK is still underperforming relative to the other G7 economies. Wherever you look, the story is the same. cognitive dissonance is perfectly exemplified in your unbalanced need to see a unicorn. Now what Brexit bonuses? Edit |
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 10:27:18 GMT
We'd be doing terribly if we'd stayed in the EU.
We'd be £90+ bn a year worse off and in recession too.
The pound was overvalued. It was hurting our exports.
For all the grumbling remoaners did about it allegedly crashing, what actually happened, is it went to it's real value, and our exports picked up.
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Post by oracle75 on May 20, 2023 11:17:37 GMT
Trade picked up everywhere after covid.
And other countries profited by far more than your magic number.
Just once it would be nice to see you NOT repeat arguments which have already been proven wrong, or to be some imaginary "would have been" since you have no idea what "would have been".
Perhaps instead of aginijng, you might like to list real Brexit benefits the good people od the UK have experienced since 2016 and which were because of Brexit.
Cheaper clothes and shoes?
Cheaper food.
Wider availability of goods?
Better NHS?
Easier travel?
Higher employment?
Higher wages and dont tell me about truckers. Most are employed in other countries.
More affordable homes ?
Lower taxes?
Investment in infrastructure?
Companies knocking on the door to build new businesses?
Control over immigration?
Scrapping of thousands of EU legislative requirements?
More profitable and sustainable farming?
Cleaner environmennt?
WHERE ARE THE BENEFITS ??
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Post by patman post on May 20, 2023 11:32:40 GMT
We'd be doing terribly if we'd stayed in the EU. We'd be £90+ bn a year worse off and in recession too. The pound was overvalued. It was hurting our exports. For all the grumbling remoaners did about it allegedly crashing, what actually happened, is it went to it's real value, and our exports picked up.
The UK generally imports more than it exports meaning that it runs a trade deficit. A deficit of £231 billion on trade in goods was offset by a surplus of £144 billion on trade in services in 2022. The overall trade deficit was £87 billion in 2022.
The UK had a trade deficit with the EU of £92 billion in 2022 and a trade surplus of £5 billion with non-EU countries.
The trade deficit with all countries increased to £9.2 billion in Quarter 1 of 2023 compared with a £6.7 billion deficit in the previous Quarter. Exports decreased by 8% in cash terms over this period while imports decreased by 6.7%.
So, given that the UK also had to service debt in excess of £2.3 trillion over 2021/2022,** did an overvalued GBP or devalued GDP cause the greatest problems...?
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 12:01:37 GMT
Our national debt is nothing to do with Brexit and I don't remember you complaining about it when we were members of the EU.
And we had an enormous trade deficit with the EU when we were members. Again, you didn't complain.
It's early days and because of the pandemic and the war this last three years have been difficult.
But make no mistake, Brexit is helping, not hindering the situation.
Unemployment is down. Exports are up.
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Post by oracle75 on May 20, 2023 15:40:11 GMT
Of course national debt has to do with Brexit.
Without the movemwnts out of L9ndon, the loss of revenue in services, the n3ed to pay tariffs/customs, the number of bus8ness4s that went bust all becuse of Brexit, the country wouldnt have to borrow so much.
I am beginning to think you are a troll. No one can be this unaware.
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Post by oracle75 on May 20, 2023 15:47:34 GMT
Trade picked up everywhere after covid. And other countries profited by far more than your magic number. Just once it would be nice to see you NOT repeat arguments which have already been proven wrong, or to be some imaginary "would have been" since you have no idea what "would have been". Perhaps instead of aginijng, you might like to list real Brexit benefits the good people od the UK have experienced since 2016 and which were because of Brexit. Cheaper clothes and shoes? Cheaper food. Wider availability of goods? Better NHS? Easier travel? Higher employment? Higher wages and dont tell me about truckers. Most are employed in other countries. More affordable homes ? Lower taxes? Investment in infrastructure? Companies knocking on the door to build new businesses? Control over immigration? Scrapping of thousands of EU legislative requirements? More profitable and sustainable farming? Cleaner environmennt? WHERE ARE THE BENEFITS ?? I repeat because neither vinny or any other desperate defender of the dumbest thing the UK ever did has answered. If 90 billion is so indicative of the good that Brexit has done, WHERE IS IT? Why wasnt it invested in the things people care about? Why is the standard of living so poor in the UK? B3CAUSE 90 BILLION PROBABLY WENT TO PAY OFF SOME OF THE INTEREST ON THE NATIONAL DEBT. Which means it did nothing to add to the value of the UK. Ans it would only cover a few months of spending on the NHS. F0e christs sake Vinny. At least pretend you know what you are doing. Learn to join the dots and put them in context. K |
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 15:48:09 GMT
Thank you for boosting my thread.
My points stand.
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