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Post by piglet on May 19, 2023 14:56:21 GMT
Wherever they go they leave a brown stain, corrupt, lying, manipulative, hopeless, in all departments.
An ex Tory.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2023 17:25:01 GMT
Theres no sign what so ever of the Tories closing the gap or making any headway in the polls, the last three published polls Opinium (15th) 14 point lead Labour, Omnisis (17th) 22 point lead Labour, TechneUK 18th 16 point lead Labour.
When a governing party gets to a certain point, the electorate simply become tired and want a change, and sometimes that point comes quicker than other times.
After years of austerity, cuts here, cuts there, cuts to services everywhere, the deplorable state of the NHS, poor growth, falling living standards, a cost of living crisis, a country torn apart by Brexit - people just want a change, or they feel it cannot be any worse.
People are just tired of the Tories now
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Post by wapentake on May 19, 2023 17:30:18 GMT
Theres no sign what so ever of the Tories closing the gap or making any headway in the polls, the last three published polls Opinium (15th) 14 point lead Labour, Omnisis (17th) 22 point lead Labour, TechneUK 18th 16 point lead Labour. When a governing party gets to a certain point, the electorate simply become tired and want a change, and sometimes that point comes quicker than other times. After years of austerity, cuts here, cuts there, cuts to services everywhere, the deplorable state of the NHS, poor growth, falling living standards, a cost of living crisis, a country torn apart by Brexit - people just want a change, or they feel it cannot be any worse. People are just tired of the Tories now Correct they are,but don’t trust labour either and we’ve come to a crossroads in British politics and I hope it ends well. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 19, 2023 19:02:25 GMT
But this always happens: The public get bored with the government and then vote in another that proceeds to do the exact same thing.
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Post by Cartertonian on May 19, 2023 20:22:34 GMT
But this always happens: The public get bored with the government and then vote in another that proceeds to do the exact same thing. It does. So why do so many want to cling to the electoral system that perpetuates it? Despite claims on both sides to speak for the 'silent majority', the reality is that the electorate is made up of a diverse range of opinion. So why shouldn't our governments reflect that? Why do we have to keep flip-flopping between decade+ episodes of being laboratory rats for politically partisan socio-political experiments? Governments should be responsible for running the country, not for advancing the interests of their own core voter base. |
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Post by patman post on May 19, 2023 20:48:24 GMT
Theres no sign what so ever of the Tories closing the gap or making any headway in the polls, the last three published polls Opinium (15th) 14 point lead Labour, Omnisis (17th) 22 point lead Labour, TechneUK 18th 16 point lead Labour. When a governing party gets to a certain point, the electorate simply become tired and want a change, and sometimes that point comes quicker than other times. After years of austerity, cuts here, cuts there, cuts to services everywhere, the deplorable state of the NHS, poor growth, falling living standards, a cost of living crisis, a country torn apart by Brexit - people just want a change, or they feel it cannot be any worse. People are just tired of the Tories now Correct they are,but don’t trust labour either and we’ve come to a crossroads in British politics and I hope it ends well. I hope it ends well too, but the opinion polls aren’t indicating a decisive win for anyone. The greater possibility is for a hung Parliament, which would give another few years of Westminster trying to sort itself out and get a lacklustre government clinging to power… |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 19, 2023 21:17:47 GMT
But this always happens: The public get bored with the government and then vote in another that proceeds to do the exact same thing. It does. So why do so many want to cling to the electoral system that perpetuates it? Despite claims on both sides to speak for the 'silent majority', the reality is that the electorate is made up of a diverse range of opinion. So why shouldn't our governments reflect that? Why do we have to keep flip-flopping between decade+ episodes of being laboratory rats for politically partisan socio-political experiments? Governments should be responsible for running the country, not for advancing the interests of their own core voter base. Indeed. That's why I find myself more and more in favour of PR. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 0:32:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 6:23:17 GMT
But this always happens: The public get bored with the government and then vote in another that proceeds to do the exact same thing. We would not get 'bored' with a party that was doing the right thing for the country and the people. How can you think that people are 'bored' with the Tories do you not think it has something to do with the corruption, the lies, the sense of entitlement, the idiots in positions of power, the incompetence, the criminality, Brexit, immigration, the cost of living, the reduction in social services, the culture wars, the strikes, the hypocrisy............................... |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 20, 2023 14:56:38 GMT
We would not get 'bored' with a party that was doing the right thing for the country and the people... An entirely subjective set of parameters: There is no "One size fits all" best thing for everyone. How can you think that people are 'bored' with the Tories do you not think it has something to do with the corruption, the lies, the sense of entitlement, the idiots in positions of power, the incompetence, the criminality, Brexit, immigration, the cost of living, the reduction in social services, the culture wars, the strikes, the hypocrisy............................... Pretty much all of which have been exhibited by every government during my lifetime. So my point stands: Swapping one set of hypocrites for another is a pointless exercise. They are all functionally the same. Unfortunately, you tribal voters are too dim to see it. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 20, 2023 15:08:19 GMT
But this always happens: The public get bored with the government and then vote in another that proceeds to do the exact same thing. We would not get 'bored' with a party that was doing the right thing for the country and the people. How can you think that people are 'bored' with the Tories do you not think it has something to do with the corruption, the lies, the sense of entitlement, the idiots in positions of power, the incompetence, the criminality, Brexit, immigration, the cost of living, the reduction in social services, the culture wars, the strikes, the hypocrisy............................... I see, so in your opinion the Tories are to blame for everything from the crucifixion to covid. And you wonder why people call you an outraged lefty? |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 6:17:11 GMT
We would not get 'bored' with a party that was doing the right thing for the country and the people... An entirely subjective set of parameters: There is no "One size fits all" best thing for everyone. How can you think that people are 'bored' with the Tories do you not think it has something to do with the corruption, the lies, the sense of entitlement, the idiots in positions of power, the incompetence, the criminality, Brexit, immigration, the cost of living, the reduction in social services, the culture wars, the strikes, the hypocrisy............................... Pretty much all of which have been exhibited by every government during my lifetime. So my point stands: Swapping one set of hypocrites for another is a pointless exercise. They are all functionally the same. Unfortunately, you tribal voters are too dim to see it. You were the one that said we get bored.😔 |
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