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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2023 6:22:30 GMT
That's very limited. Did you want no deal and no cooperation after we left? No it ain't.
Still, that has solved a problem. I was going to hold my nose and vote Labour, but now that Sir Stodge has admitted he intends to back the UK into the EU, fuck him and the catamite he rode in on.
Looks like I will have to back that little shit Sunak.
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Post by borchester on May 26, 2023 18:35:37 GMT
No it ain't.
Still, that has solved a problem. I was going to hold my nose and vote Labour, but now that Sir Stodge has admitted he intends to back the UK into the EU, fuck him and the catamite he rode in on.
Looks like I will have to back that little shit Sunak.
When did Starmer say that? I feel that he said that and that is all that counts. |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2023 5:37:23 GMT
When did Starmer say that? I feel that he said that and that is all that counts. So it was a lie except in your head. How can you believe something is fact when you know it isn't? |
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Post by Pacifico on May 27, 2023 7:07:51 GMT
So Starmers plan is that he would secure a New Zealand-style veterinary deal with Brussels to ease border checks on food. Trouble is that the the EU have already rejected that request - twice..  |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 5, 2023 9:45:52 GMT
I say Starmer is most welcome to say what he will do whether in a boastful manner or not. I would rather welcome a return to the days when you actually got what it said on the tin. I was never a fan of Tony Benn or Dennis Skinner but no one could EVER say they did not say what they wanted to do, and tried rather hard to do what they said they would.
The issue with the twat in the Bay right now is he’s implementing shitloads he said nothing about when he was demanding our votes.
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Post by patman post on Jun 5, 2023 10:54:49 GMT
No it ain't.
Still, that has solved a problem. I was going to hold my nose and vote Labour, but now that Sir Stodge has admitted he intends to back the UK into the EU, fuck him and the catamite he rode in on.
Looks like I will have to back that little shit Sunak.
When did Starmer say that? People will believe and act on what they think they hear.
Even if Starmer wanted to get the UK back into the EU, I doubt the EU would want the UK back — and certainly not on the favourable terms it had before it left.
Overall, the EU is doing OK at the moment — all this hype about faster growth than EU and G7 members, neglects to recognise that the UK is improving from a very low level. Why would the EU want to hitch its economy to a UK sheet anchor?
But I think Starmer is right in wanting to get Brexit sorted — at the moment it's a bugger's muddle of part in and part out, with loads more time-consuming and cost-incurring procedures that are lessening the UK's ability to trade, and costing the economy billions.
I watched the comments of Australian commentators about the Australia-UK trade deal, recently — they saw benefits to Australia's exports, but they couldn't identify anything they needed from the UK. If all the Brexit oven-ready trade deals are like this, I can see boat loads of Brits leaving the UK for greener pastures...
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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2023 14:23:30 GMT
When did Starmer say that? People will believe and act on what they think they hear.
Even if Starmer wanted to get the UK back into the EU, I doubt the EU would want the UK back — and certainly not on the favourable terms it had before it left.
Overall, the EU is doing OK at the moment — all this hype about faster growth than EU and G7 members, neglects to recognise that the UK is improving from a very low level. Why would the EU want to hitch its economy to a UK sheet anchor?
But I think Starmer is right in wanting to get Brexit sorted — at the moment it's a bugger's muddle of part in and part out, with loads more time-consuming and cost-incurring procedures that are lessening the UK's ability to trade, and costing the economy billions.
I watched the comments of Australian commentators about the Australia-UK trade deal, recently — they saw benefits to Australia's exports, but they couldn't identify anything they needed from the UK. If all the Brexit oven-ready trade deals are like this, I can see boat loads of Brits leaving the UK for greener pastures...
Nothing wrong with Australian imports. Our FTA with Australia is a good thing.
And yes, overall the UK is doing ok, we're not in recession, our export sales are the highest they've been for decades.
And taking inflation into account, our exports to the EU are well above the level of inflation.
We now sell £340bn a year. Adjusting 2016's sales to the EU into inflation, what we sold when we were members, was the equivalent of £302 billion a year.
If we'd been below that mark, our vote for independence would have constituted a fail.
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Post by bancroft on Jun 5, 2023 14:57:35 GMT
I actually think London is one of the losers from Multi-Nats moving on or reducing headcount from London after 2016 and then with COV-ID people preferring to WFM.
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Post by patman post on Jun 5, 2023 15:22:05 GMT
People will believe and act on what they think they hear.
Even if Starmer wanted to get the UK back into the EU, I doubt the EU would want the UK back — and certainly not on the favourable terms it had before it left.
Overall, the EU is doing OK at the moment — all this hype about faster growth than EU and G7 members, neglects to recognise that the UK is improving from a very low level. Why would the EU want to hitch its economy to a UK sheet anchor?
But I think Starmer is right in wanting to get Brexit sorted — at the moment it's a bugger's muddle of part in and part out, with loads more time-consuming and cost-incurring procedures that are lessening the UK's ability to trade, and costing the economy billions.
I watched the comments of Australian commentators about the Australia-UK trade deal, recently — they saw benefits to Australia's exports, but they couldn't identify anything they needed from the UK. If all the Brexit oven-ready trade deals are like this, I can see boat loads of Brits leaving the UK for greener pastures...
Nothing wrong with Australian imports. Our FTA with Australia is a good thing.
And yes, overall the UK is doing ok, we're not in recession, our export sales are the highest they've been for decades.
And taking inflation into account, our exports to the EU are well above the level of inflation.
We now sell £340bn a year. Adjusting 2016's sales to the EU into inflation, what we sold when we were members, was the equivalent of £302 billion a year.
If we'd been below that mark, our vote for independence would have constituted a fail.
Nothing wrong with Australian imports coming in tariff free from my point of view, but what’s the UK trading in return — a few Spice Girls CDs, Burberry raincoats and hand-made Morgan sports cars? Fiddling inflation stats means nothing. The UK dropped way back below its 2019 performance and is still yet to draw level, while others powered ahead, meaning that even with percentage growths of half the UK’s, they’re still way ahead. Brexit needn’t be a fail, but it needs sorting out from the current mess it is… |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2023 15:43:08 GMT
We've been through a pandemic and there's a war taking place in Ukraine, one of our big agricultural suppliers.
Russia were one of our big fuel suppliers.
Give it time.
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Post by patman post on Jun 5, 2023 18:27:02 GMT
We've been through a pandemic and there's a war taking place in Ukraine, one of our big agricultural suppliers. Russia were one of our big fuel suppliers. Give it time. And is the UK is the most badly affected by all this? I don’t think so… |
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Post by Vinny on Jun 5, 2023 20:57:55 GMT
No, we're not the most badly affected by any of this.
Germany is in recession, we aren't.
A side effect of voting leave was that the pound (which had been over valued for a long time) fell in value against other currencies making our exports more affordable, and as a result we're exporting more.
A lot more.
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