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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 7:59:43 GMT
That's very limited. Did you want no deal and no cooperation after we left? Have I ever said that I wanted no deal and no cooperation? Issues like the deal, and how we cooperate are on the table and Starmer is entitled to put forward his ideas and if he wishes to enact those ideas, the best way is in a referendum. It's a shame he didn't put forwards his ideas before, instead trying to force the country into another in / out referendum rather than arguing for a how we build a new relationship referendum. He sought to cause trouble and it backfired on Labour spectacularly.
If it hadn't been for the Covid crisis the Tories would have been guaranteed office until the 2030s.
"In my case, to not be in the EU." That can mean anything, I was interested in what it actually meant. I voted to leave but not leave the SM or the CU, close cooperation was always a must but to leave the regulatory body. These things, in one way or another were promised but never delivered. |
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 8:56:43 GMT
The Customs Union imposes a common external tariff, I don't want to be in that.
The Single Market imposes freedom of movement of people, including people with criminal records.
Free trade agreements do not require either of those.
We do not have either of those, and our exports have actually increased rather than decreased in value above the rate of inflation, unemployment is down.
What's to be upset about?
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Post by Red Rackham on May 20, 2023 11:01:04 GMT
? I didn't say you or your family were members of Momentum! Are you losing the plot again, that's a rhetorical question btw. "I'm having some difficulty accepting that Corbyn is universally popular, other than with a hardcore of extreme lefties, Momentum and the like". Have I alleviated your difficulty. Most supporters of Corbyn were neither hard left or or members of Momentum 'and the like', whatever that means, but rather people who could see that given a chance he could of made a difference. You're away with the left wing fairies. Do you know see2? |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 20, 2023 11:07:42 GMT
? I didn't say you or your family were members of Momentum! Are you losing the plot again, that's a rhetorical question btw. I am and was a Corbyn supporter as is my wife, my children................. I bet those long winter nights just fly by... |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 20, 2023 11:14:06 GMT
? I didn't say you or your family were members of Momentum! Are you losing the plot again, that's a rhetorical question btw. "I'm having some difficulty accepting that Corbyn is universally popular, other than with a hardcore of extreme lefties, Momentum and the like". Have I alleviated your difficulty. Most supporters of Corbyn were neither hard left or or members of Momentum 'and the like', whatever that means, but rather people who could see that given a chance he could of made a difference. Have you seen this:
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Post by Red Rackham on May 20, 2023 13:47:21 GMT
"I'm having some difficulty accepting that Corbyn is universally popular, other than with a hardcore of extreme lefties, Momentum and the like". Have I alleviated your difficulty. Most supporters of Corbyn were neither hard left or or members of Momentum 'and the like', whatever that means, but rather people who could see that given a chance he could of made a difference. Have you seen this:
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Post by om15 on May 20, 2023 17:37:12 GMT
I'm sure that he would have made a difference, this is what people (including most of his own party) were terrified of, his friendship and support to the PIRA, the PLO and any other anti British organisation that you might name certainly ensured that his only supporters were commies, the insane and those that wished our country ill.
Corbyn was only along for the ride, like Salmon and Sturgeon, politics was an easy living that allowed him a platform to spout his own views with absolutely no chance of any responsibility for anything, least of all the results of their insidious anti British policies.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 7:18:41 GMT
"I'm having some difficulty accepting that Corbyn is universally popular, other than with a hardcore of extreme lefties, Momentum and the like". Have I alleviated your difficulty. Most supporters of Corbyn were neither hard left or or members of Momentum 'and the like', whatever that means, but rather people who could see that given a chance he could of made a difference. You're away with the left wing fairies. Do you know see2? Ask his constituents, they are not hard left Momentum 'and the like', just ordinary people that have voted him in for decades. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 7:26:41 GMT
I'm sure that he would have made a difference, this is what people (including most of his own party) were terrified of, his friendship and support to the PIRA, the PLO and any other anti British organisation that you might name certainly ensured that his only supporters were commies, the insane and those that wished our country ill. Corbyn was only along for the ride, like Salmon and Sturgeon, politics was an easy living that allowed him a platform to spout his own views with absolutely no chance of any responsibility for anything, least of all the results of their insidious anti British policies. You agree then with the 'cruelty' inflicted on the Palestinian people by the Israeli government then (that is not an anti Semitic statement). Israel were terrified Corbyn would become PM and recognise Palestine and instituted a campaign of dis-information about him. People still seem to believe he is anti Semitic because that is what they are told to believe. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 8:22:01 GMT
You're away with the left wing fairies. Do you know see2? Ask his constituents, they are not hard left Momentum 'and the like', just ordinary people that have voted him in for decades. His constituents represent a tiny fraction of the electorate, and I'm told some of them can actually speak English. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2023 9:24:02 GMT
Ask his constituents, they are not hard left Momentum 'and the like', just ordinary people that have voted him in for decades. His constituents represent a tiny fraction of the electorate, and I'm told some of them can actually speak English. His constituents may be a tiny fraction of the electorate but they have consistently voted him into parliament to represent them. The last bit is just bigoted racism and in poor taste, I always thought better of you.😔 |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 21, 2023 9:35:56 GMT
His constituents represent a tiny fraction of the electorate, and I'm told some of them can actually speak English. His constituents may be a tiny fraction of the electorate but they have consistently voted him into parliament to represent them. The last bit is just bigoted racism and in poor taste, I always thought better of you.😔 The truth often hurts. |
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Post by Vinny on May 22, 2023 10:23:33 GMT
I'm sure that he would have made a difference, this is what people (including most of his own party) were terrified of, his friendship and support to the PIRA, the PLO and any other anti British organisation that you might name certainly ensured that his only supporters were commies, the insane and those that wished our country ill. Corbyn was only along for the ride, like Salmon and Sturgeon, politics was an easy living that allowed him a platform to spout his own views with absolutely no chance of any responsibility for anything, least of all the results of their insidious anti British policies. You agree then with the 'cruelty' inflicted on the Palestinian people by the Israeli government then (that is not an anti Semitic statement). Israel were terrified Corbyn would become PM and recognise Palestine and instituted a campaign of dis-information about him. People still seem to believe he is anti Semitic because that is what they are told to believe. The Israeli government and the Hamas dictatorship are two sides of the same bad coin. Both require conflict in order to retain power. If there was ever peace between Israel and Palestine, Netanyahu would go to prison, and Ismael Haniyeh would get lynched for his crimes. |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 13:58:31 GMT
I'm sure that he would have made a difference, this is what people (including most of his own party) were terrified of, his friendship and support to the PIRA, the PLO and any other anti British organisation that you might name certainly ensured that his only supporters were commies, the insane and those that wished our country ill. Corbyn was only along for the ride, like Salmon and Sturgeon, politics was an easy living that allowed him a platform to spout his own views with absolutely no chance of any responsibility for anything, least of all the results of their insidious anti British policies. (that is not an anti Semitic statement). Israel were terrified Corbyn would become PM and recognise Palestine and instituted a campaign of dis-information about him. People still seem to believe he is anti Semitic because that is what they are told to believe. I'm sure om15 can recognise a strawman when he sees one. |
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Post by borchester on May 25, 2023 21:24:44 GMT
In my case, to not be in the EU. That's very limited. Did you want no deal and no cooperation after we left? No it ain't.
Still, that has solved a problem. I was going to hold my nose and vote Labour, but now that Sir Stodge has admitted he intends to back the UK into the EU, fuck him and the catamite he rode in on.
Looks like I will have to back that little shit Sunak.
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