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Post by colbops on May 18, 2023 12:42:46 GMT
Why? As already highlighted, you can't know either way. Why would you live your life (or simulife) differently? I suppose there is a suggestion in the OP that we don't know. Nevertheless, I also pointed out that it is statistically probable that life is a simulation. I get that you are saying that it is statistically probable that life is a simulation however I return to 'there is nothing to make of it and it doesn't matter'. Even if it is probable that one is a simulation, one can never know and one lives their life whether it be simulated or real. Why should it matter to anyone? Why would anyone live their lives differently based on a statistical probability they are a simulation since it changes nothing in terms of ones experienced reality / existence? |
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Post by Bentley on May 18, 2023 12:51:49 GMT
I suppose there is a suggestion in the OP that we don't know. Nevertheless, I also pointed out that it is statistically probable that life is a simulation. I get that you are saying that it is statistically probable that life is a simulation however I return to 'there is nothing to make of it and it doesn't matter'. Even if it is probable that one is a simulation, one can never know and one lives their life whether it be simulated or real. Why should it matter to anyone? Why would anyone live their lives differently based on a statistical probability they are a simulation since it changes nothing in terms of ones experienced reality / existence? Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.” ― Richard P. Feynman Same applies here. |
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Post by Orac on May 18, 2023 13:07:36 GMT
I feel it is an inescapable part of my nature that I do care about such things and I don't feel I would be myself if I didn't
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Post by Bentley on May 18, 2023 13:14:45 GMT
Pondering the imponderable is good for the soul .
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 13:17:16 GMT
I feel it is an inescapable part of my nature that I do care about such things and I don't feel I would be myself if I didn't Could it also be nurture? |
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Post by colbops on May 18, 2023 13:18:31 GMT
I feel it is an inescapable part of my nature that I do care about such things and I don't feel I would be myself if I didn't Could it also be nurture? He wasn't nurtured he was coded |
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Post by piglet on May 18, 2023 13:20:12 GMT
This world is a fabrication, its a training ground to evolve you, you get sent here every so often. There is a physical world, and a spiritual, do you know what spirituality is?, no. Its thoughts, feelings, all that is not physical, mechanistic.
Will anyone take any notice of this?, no. Do i care?, no.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 13:20:19 GMT
Could it also be nurture? He wasn't nurtured he was coded I'm unsure if there's a difference between the three. |
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Post by Orac on May 18, 2023 13:28:31 GMT
Could it also be nurture? He wasn't nurtured he was coded Yes - it's a bit tricky to explain why someone would bother coding me to do that. In whose interests is it that I engage in such ponderings? |
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Post by Einhorn on May 18, 2023 13:40:17 GMT
I suppose there is a suggestion in the OP that we don't know. Nevertheless, I also pointed out that it is statistically probable that life is a simulation. I get that you are saying that it is statistically probable that life is a simulation however I return to 'there is nothing to make of it and it doesn't matter'. Even if it is probable that one is a simulation, one can never know and one lives their life whether it be simulated or real. Why should it matter to anyone? Why would anyone live their lives differently based on a statistical probability they are a simulation since it changes nothing in terms of ones experienced reality / existence? As I said, it is entirely conceivable that knowledge that one is a mere simulation would change one's lived experience. One might treat a simulated human very differently than a 'real human'; one might live differently knowing there is no afterlife as such, that one does not die, but is merely switched off. There are lots of ways such knowledge might change one's life. |
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Post by colbops on May 18, 2023 13:44:14 GMT
I get that you are saying that it is statistically probable that life is a simulation however I return to 'there is nothing to make of it and it doesn't matter'. Even if it is probable that one is a simulation, one can never know and one lives their life whether it be simulated or real. Why should it matter to anyone? Why would anyone live their lives differently based on a statistical probability they are a simulation since it changes nothing in terms of ones experienced reality / existence? As I said, it is entirely conceivable that knowledge that one is a mere simulation would change one's lived experience. One might treat a simulated human very differently than a 'real human'; one might live differently knowing there is no afterlife as such, that one does not die, but is merely switched off. There are lots of ways such knowledge might change one's life. You can't know though that's the whole point. You are shifting the virtual goal posts. |
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Post by Einhorn on May 18, 2023 13:56:50 GMT
As I said, it is entirely conceivable that knowledge that one is a mere simulation would change one's lived experience. One might treat a simulated human very differently than a 'real human'; one might live differently knowing there is no afterlife as such, that one does not die, but is merely switched off. There are lots of ways such knowledge might change one's life. You can't know though that's the whole point. You are shifting the virtual goal posts. No, we can't know. We are in a world of pure speculation. That said, speaking only for myself, I imagine I would behave and think differently if I knew that I was a mere simulation. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 14:07:49 GMT
He wasn't nurtured he was coded Yes - it's a bit tricky to explain why someone would bother coding me to do that. In whose interests is it that I engage in such ponderings? A simulation of the evolutionary process wouldn't require direct intervention. You could also be a consequence of your nurture, which need not be quite so specific. To simply question things is bound to lead to these sort of ponderings, so if that's what you were encouraged to do then it may well lead you to this. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2023 15:17:53 GMT
If the simulation was good then there'd be little or no difference to whatever it was simulating. Am I concious or am I simulating conciousness? I don't know, or even care. It's a waste of time thinking about it unless you want to write a sci-fi script. I disagree but I agree it’s a waste of time thinking about it if you think it’s a waste of time thinking about it . OK, since it has already had a mention on this thread, let's look at my take on the Matrix trilogy.
Smith explained that humans were never happy, even when the machines tried to create a simulated paradise. The more people resisted the worse the simulation became and all to try and convince people that they're in the real world. In the end people were fighting machines in a miserable world believing it to be real. We knew this because Neo could still see the world even when he was blinded by Smith (impossible). The simulation adapted, and nobody is wiser to why it ever existed. Those who believed they escaped only believed they were used as batteries.
Of course, there are other theories, where he merely upgraded himself to have wireless access to the machines, because he was the first to choose a specific path. This is known as the Christ theory, but I prefer the deception one.
Perhaps, and this is only my opinion, it's best to just enjoy the experience of the here and now, simulation or not. I have grown to believe it's a waste of time, but that's just me. This is not to say that's a bad thing. Playing games is a waste of time, but I still enjoy making and playing them.
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Post by Bentley on May 18, 2023 15:35:25 GMT
I disagree but I agree it’s a waste of time thinking about it if you think it’s a waste of time thinking about it . OK, since it has already had a mention on this thread, let's look at my take on the Matrix trilogy.
Smith explained that humans were never happy, even when the machines tried to create a simulated paradise. The more people resisted the worse the simulation became and all to try and convince people that they're in the real world. In the end people were fighting machines in a miserable world believing it to be real. We knew this because Neo could still see the world even when he was blinded by Smith (impossible). The simulation adapted, and nobody is wiser to why it ever existed. Those who believed they escaped only believed they were used as batteries.
Of course, there are other theories, where he merely upgraded himself to have wireless access to the machines, because he was the first to choose a specific path. This is known as the Christ theory, but I prefer the deception one.
Perhaps, and this is only my opinion, it's best to just enjoy the experience of the here and now, simulation or not. I have grown to believe it's a waste of time, but that's just me. This is not to say that's a bad thing. Playing games is a waste of time, but I still enjoy making and playing them.
I dont think this thread is about the matrix trilogy . Just the concept of us all being simulations . |
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