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Post by Equivocal on May 19, 2023 5:30:56 GMT
The actual offence that Allchurch was convicted of is set out in s21 of the Public Order Act 1986: 21 Distributing, showing or playing a recording.(1)A person who distributes, or shows or plays, a recording of visual images or sounds which are threatening, abusive or insulting is guilty of an offence if— (a)he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or (b)having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.
Since he apparently denied intent, the conviction would have rested on clause 21.(1)(b), that racial hatred was likely to be stirred up.
We're not told how the prosecution and the judge persuaded the jury that was the going to be the case.
That's useful to know; thieves deny intent to permanently deprive and murderers intent to kill or inflict GBH, all home free. |
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Post by Vinny on May 19, 2023 5:42:41 GMT
Makes me wonder what the reaction of the police and courts would have been if James Allchurch had been a Muslim. You may notice in the pic below people waving banners that actively encourage terrorism and murder, yet the police allowed them to continue. On this occasion racial hatred was obviously OK.  Mine would have been the same. Those guys also deserve a dangle. |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 19, 2023 7:30:01 GMT
Makes me wonder what the reaction of the police and courts would have been if James Allchurch had been a Muslim. You may notice in the pic below people waving banners that actively encourage terrorism and murder, yet the police allowed them to continue. On this occasion racial hatred was obviously OK. Mine would have been the same. Those guys also deserve a dangle. That's the demo' at the Danish Embassy about those cartoons, in 2006. It predated the Religious Hatred Act, and so charges couldn't be brought on those grounds, unfortunately - but four men were jailed for Incitement,,which was as it should be. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6904622.stm#:~:text=Four%20Muslim%20men%20have%20been,crowd%20to%20bomb%20the%20UK. |
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Post by Vinny on May 19, 2023 8:13:33 GMT
Should have given those Islamist terrorist supporting traitors whole life.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2023 12:27:16 GMT
The Islamists would march screaming "Bomb Bomb UK" whilst their terrorist buddies were blowing people up. The lefties who voted Blair, with support of their Unions, supported them. They knew it would cause a stir and basically used the Islamists to empower themselves.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 19, 2023 12:32:59 GMT
Mine would have been the same. Those guys also deserve a dangle. That's the demo' at the Danish Embassy about those cartoons, in 2006. It predated the Religious Hatred Act, and so charges couldn't be brought on those grounds, unfortunately - but four men were jailed for Incitement,,which was as it should be. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6904622.stm#:~:text=Four%20Muslim%20men%20have%20been,crowd%20to%20bomb%20the%20UK. Oh right, that's OK then. |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 19, 2023 18:31:31 GMT
Oh right, that's OK then.[/quote] Yes it is. The Law worked as it's supposed to. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 20, 2023 6:58:42 GMT
Oh right, that's OK then. Yes it is. The Law worked as it's supposed to. No it didn’t … this wasn’t a cost effective response of benefit and a long term solution for the British Taxpayer … The correct response should have been instant deportation of these Islamic immigrant extremists … and their proven linked extremist associates investigated by Deep State, MI5, GCHQ etc … it was GROSS NEGLIGENCE this didn’t happen …. and partly the fault of the MSM these mandates aren’t in place in the UK today They should have been in place as a safeguard since WW2 - when mass immigration started. …. These are undesirable ‘aliens’ who were fast tracked into this Country by EU/UK politicians implementing a covert forced immigration policy … heavily financially rewarded covertly by a Zionist Coudenhove-Kalergi Foundation for over 40 years after the EU was created …. in order to create this eugenics manipulation - alongside a sham Common Market trading group - which turned into a racist distraction to defund Europe - and white Europeans. The Islamification of Britain and America … and mass immigrant invasion of people largely incompatible with our once freely expressed Western cultural values …. is part of a Programme that Globalists like Walter Paisley are ‘facilitating’ … and is reflected tbh, in most comments he and his cronies make on this Forum … and made on the last space we had … where FREE SPEECH was better respected … and where white people had the same freedoms to trumpet their extremist prejudices and poke fun at religious/political bigotry. … remember the Scottish guy who taught his girlfriend’s pug dog to do a Nazi salute to Hitler’s speeches … and posted it on social media for a laugh?? …. This UK kangaroo court proceeding - whipped to hysteria levels by Vinny, the BBC and MSM … smells suspiciously of a similar Legal farcical frame-up. ….. yes, this guy is a totally different entity … a real Nazi propagandist …. but if you put into context the damage directly attributed to his alleged extremism … active involvement in a real crime here … not alleged WOKE emotional hurt … that the KC tried to ‘faux outrage’ in Court … …. What we seem to have here is nothing but a cold hill of runny beans - which was only dolloped out because the guy was white.. In other words … just your average Vinny thread. … and another arguably RACIST UK prosecution by the CPS! But what do you expect when the UK LEGAL profession is being invaded and taken over by religious (often racist) immigrants from extremist sectarian cultures?? Don’t say you weren’t warned. 🤔 |
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Post by Vinny on May 20, 2023 7:32:26 GMT
Actually I supported the freedom of Count Dankula.
And, regarding those treasonous Islamist nutjobs, I'd hang the fuckers just like I'd hang active Neo Nazis who wish to carry out terrorism.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2023 13:41:35 GMT
Actually I supported the freedom of Count Dankula. And, regarding those treasonous Islamist nutjobs, I'd hang the fuckers just like I'd hang active Neo Nazis who wish to carry out terrorism. But the guy in the OP wasn't done under any terrorism act. He was done because he shared content that was deemed racist and anti-semitic. If this was a Labour far-leftie you would not see this happening, they'd just be slapped on the wrist. I also wouldn't hang Islamists no matter how much I disagree with their views, just as I wouldn't hang a Zionist or those who want to be governed by the Church.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 20, 2023 20:05:36 GMT
It is a particularly interesting case because it's the first time really that we've seen in Wales something that is very much on that boundary level of 'is this hate speechHow very selective of the bitch. Research what the cottage burners, and their appreciation society said openly in various campusses and meeting halls in the 70’s and 80’s But that was of course racism and vionence against the english and doesn’t count |
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Post by Dubdrifter on May 23, 2023 7:15:33 GMT
Actually I supported the freedom of Count Dankula. And, regarding those treasonous Islamist nutjobs, I'd hang the fuckers just like I'd hang active Neo Nazis who wish to carry out terrorism.So why aren’t you out in Ukraine now hanging all the neo-Nazis of Azov and the thousands of Stephan Banderas supporters? …. then you can nip over the border and tackle the handful of Wagner Groupies who kick in the heads of the LGBTQ Community over in Russia? Don’t be a keyboard warrior coward … go confront the enemy. …. when you have mopped them up … next head for NATO and the PENTAGON/CIA HQ … there are a few Dr Strangelove Nazis there causing World Chaos along with the Soros Posse. The reason we don’t want this latest ‘brand’ of Islam or Zionism here or anywhere near our Legal System in any way … is because we don’t like their ‘brand’ of Law and Order … just as we don’t like your extremist vitriol, Vinny …. or any sectarian religion twisting our Laws around these days … and whipping up ‘faux outrage’. . The Walter Paisley’s of this twisted Clown 🤡 World … whose sectarian tribes are fast track importing these odious people into Britain have a lot to answer for … duping the WEST that these nutjobs are ‘benign’. …. In case you weren’t up to speed, Vinny … we sadly abolished the death penalty in the UK on Humane grounds several decades ago … which made our Justice System ‘kaput’ in the eyes of the Majority today. We’ve moved on from your brand of vitriol too … you come across more extremist Islamic and Nazi daily on this Forum. …. Tone it down a bit … or you will get this space shut down … like you got our last Forum shut down. I certainly don’t want to rewrite all my exposés all over again. 😖 Ironically, we still have MP’s today in our Parliament who will happily abandon our Defensive principles, break our borders .. and send our teenage sons to fight and die for Azov and Ukraine Army Nazis … and be killed in other wars on foreign soil … the hypocrisy is staggering. Why should they be queasy about dispatching a few murderers to an early grave? …nobody wants to defund the Country’s taxpayers quite like our MP’s and PM?? … WE never want to see these scum rehabilitated back amongst us to repeat offend. Surely more cost effective to fast track their ‘Judgement Day’ in Heaven … no?? If they can jab the population with lethal Covid 19 injections …. I’m sure Deep State could summon up a ‘cocktail’ to humanely put down a few murderers …. and serve a population who might want a Dignitas exit from acute suffering. It’s funny how religious groups always want to maximise our ‘suffering’ these days?? Are they really a benefit to the People on this Planet?? … weighing up the plusses and minuses … many educated people feel some major Religions are a curse today. |
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Post by Vinny on May 23, 2023 7:24:26 GMT
On the 21st of March last year the Putin Nazis invaded Kherson and started shooting when the locals protested against them. Putin's Nazi bastards had previously shot at Sky news journalists. Putin's thugs murdered this mother and her baby:  Destroyed entire neighbourhoods:  And it was the same when the bastards invaded Chechnya:  There are photos I'm not allowed to post because of forum rules, of mass graves of Chechens dug by the Russians, filled with dead bodies, their hands tied. But if you google mass graves Chechnya, you'll find the harrowing photos. Here's a Human Rights Watch article about Putin's crimes: www.hrw.org/news/2001/02/26/mass-grave-found-chechnyaHere's a wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_graves_in_ChechnyaWarning, it does contain photos of mass graves and the victims of Putin's illegal warmongering. Change sides Dubdrifter, do not support Putin. Either become neutral, or support Ukraine, but do not support Putin. He is the Nazi. You are on the wrong side of history here. |
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