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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 8:17:49 GMT
It is the Tories and the Tory media that absolutely need to lie, insinuate and deceive, in their usual way, in their attempt to retain their ever controlling damaging effect of the overrated Tories in office. LMFAO. When in trouble , why do labour fall back on the blame the tory media schtick?
If the tory media control all our minds as you imply ,why has scotland not voted for them since 1955 , scotland didnt vote brexit , but at the same time scotland has rejected labour since 2007 , and 2015 respectively?
Perhaps the english simply dont like new labour , and think the party stuffed full of muppets.
I have no idea about what goes on in Scotland. ---- I have not suggested it controls all our minds, just enough to ensure election is all that is needed. In 1979 the Tories and the Tory media lied about the state of the UK economy being caused by Unions and Nationalisation. People believed the lie and voted Thatcher / Tories into office. Around two years earlier the TUC backed the Labour government's attempt to keep wage claims down to 5%. It was pissed off workers, trouble makers on the shop floor and the malcontents that reacted, (causing so much trouble in the late 1970s,) to high inflation and years of economic failure by successive governments since 1951. To blame the Unions was a lie. Countries like Germany and France had High Speed nationalised railways long before the UK, so nationalisation was not the problem. Just another lie that the electorate fell for. Despite selling off the family silver including water, gas, electricity etc. along with our oil, and the consistent high unemployment levels the media led electorate continued to vote for Thatcher, keeping her in office for 11 years. It was left to the Tory party itself to get rid of Thatcher. If you do not recognise the unelected power of the media, newspapers in particular, (and IMO the mud slingers who back them) then you need to wake up. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 8:20:28 GMT
What experts would that be dead nag? Dead nag, just said there is no black and white, so you cannot see only a white balcony then. fecking hilarious. Liar, I did not say that I said they are not colours. You are a Liar.😔 |
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 8:35:22 GMT
I suppose that at one time in history, before 1967, many people would have said the very same things about Homosexuals, that they must never be accepted, that they are unatural, perverts, or that they are sexual predators or dangerous or improper, immoral or freaks etc etc. What I do know is that a very small minority of men feel that they were born the wrong sex, and that they very strongly feel that they are women, or wish to be women. If a tiny fraction of the male population wish to be classed as women, and dress and act like a woman WHY DOES IT MATTER TO ANYONE. ? Whats the problem exactly ? Most Transexual people DO NOT simply put a dress on and give themselves a female name, and if thats how you believe it works, then you are not qualified to enter into such a debate. Now let me end this particular post by letting you know that many years ago, when I was in the licensed trade, I got to know a Transexual ( male to female ) who attended a weekly disco / dance, both her and her male friend were extremely pleasant and funny people .... It kind of saddened me to find out that the Transexual took her own life. That is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. Whether a man is hetrosexual or homosexual is irrelevant. It does not alter the fact that he is a biological male. The number of people in this country who are genuinely gender dysphoric is microscopically small, although thanks to knee jerk woke legislation you wouldn't know that. A man in a dress is not a bloody woman, he is a man in a dress, Christ who knew.  Posting shit like that only exposes your hatred. Just a few years ago I learnt that a well educated successful businessman I know, is now living with a man in the US. He openly says that he is gay, I had never seen anything in his behaviour or in his mannerisms to indicate that he was Gay. |
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 8:40:32 GMT
Another of Sir Keir Starmers women.... Another sick post by yourself. |
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Post by Fairsociety on May 11, 2023 8:44:30 GMT
That is the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. Whether a man is hetrosexual or homosexual is irrelevant. It does not alter the fact that he is a biological male. The number of people in this country who are genuinely gender dysphoric is microscopically small, although thanks to knee jerk woke legislation you wouldn't know that. A man in a dress is not a bloody woman, he is a man in a dress, Christ who knew. Posting shit like that only exposes your hatred. Just a few years ago I learnt that a well educated successful businessman I know, is now living with a man in the US. He openly says that he is gay, I had never seen anything in his behaviour or in his mannerisms to indicate that he was Gay. But that picture isn't made up, and no one will believe you if you say it's ok to walk around like that.
It has nothing to do with hatred, but everything to do with what is socially acceptable, and breaking the public indecency laws, and if you tell us you wouldn't be mortified if you saw this thing entering a ladies toilets, then you are either a weirdo or a liar, or possibly both.
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 8:46:06 GMT
Just one example. "An intersex lesbian born with testicles and a vagina has declared ‘we are not freaks’ after being operated on as a baby. Courtney Skaggs, 29, is genetically male but was also born with a clitoris. However, her body rejected its male hormones and she now lives as an ‘intersex femme’ following the invasive surgery from when she was a newborn. Courtney, from San Diego in California, was deemed female by doctors soon after birth because of her overall physical appearance. She then underwent surgery at six weeks-old to ‘normalize’ her genitalia by removing her testicles, but is now distressed that such a major, life-changing procedure was conducted without her consent." Ain't nature wonderful. This is becoming like Groundhog day, anyhoo. The number of people in this country who are genuinely gender dysphoric is microscopically small, although thanks to knee jerk woke legislation you wouldn't know that. A man in a dress is not a bloody woman, he is a man in a dress, Christ who knew. Exactly, so why make such a big issue about Starmer's comment on the possibility of a female being born with a penis? EDIT: Initially undifferentiated, the tubercle develops into either a penis or a clitoris during the development of the reproductive system depending on exposure to androgens (which are primarily male hormones). |
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 8:48:40 GMT
Posting shit like that only exposes your hatred. Just a few years ago I learnt that a well educated successful businessman I know, is now living with a man in the US. He openly says that he is gay, I had never seen anything in his behaviour or in his mannerisms to indicate that he was Gay. But that picture isn't made up, and no one will believe you if you say it's ok to walk around like that.
It has nothing to do with hatred, but everything to do with what is socially acceptable, and breaking the public indecency laws, and if you tell us you wouldn't be mortified if you saw this thing entering a ladies toilets, then you are either a weirdo or a liar, or possibly both.
What are you on about? I DESCRIBED THE PHOTO AS SHIT. |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 8:56:19 GMT
Oh yes .... of course this is a very common occurence isn't it ? Lets think of how many other similar cases there have been ................. Oh yes, none The problem is that dinosaurs always try to think up excuses as to why we should not accept something which they do not like. I keep going back to my original points, which is that there are men who seriously believe they are born the wrong sex. There are also women who believe they are the wrong sex, instead of driving such people to nervous breakdowns or suicide, why not just let them live the life they want to live. What harm would it do to you ? What harm would it do to you if you fathered such a child? A rather cruel answer - what would YOU do if you had a son who was born this way ? What would you do if you had a daughter or son who came out as been gay ? Why caanot you just accept people for who they are ? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 9:01:01 GMT
The populist Right are always the same - narrow minded dinosaurs for whom the world constantly overtakes them
The IRA bombs a police station ... "the Catholics are all the same"
Islamic extremists bomb a tube station ... "Muslims are all the same"
A Transexual rapes a woman ... "Transgendered people are all the same"
You need to take a long hard look at yourselves in the mirror
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Post by Pacifico on May 11, 2023 11:31:56 GMT
Another of Sir Keir Starmers women.... Another sick post by yourself. What is sick about it? - Strarmer does think this guy is a woman. Of should we no longer listen to what Starmer says? |
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2023 11:33:45 GMT
The populist Right are always the same - narrow minded dinosaurs for whom the world constantly overtakes them The IRA bombs a police station ... "the Catholics are all the same" Islamic extremists bomb a tube station ... "Muslims are all the same" A Transexual rapes a woman ... "Transgendered people are all the same" You need to take a long hard look at yourselves in the mirror What an ultramoronic hypocritical post. I bet you can't even see it either. |
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Post by thomas on May 11, 2023 14:22:28 GMT
LMFAO. When in trouble , why do labour fall back on the blame the tory media schtick?
If the tory media control all our minds as you imply ,why has scotland not voted for them since 1955 , scotland didnt vote brexit , but at the same time scotland has rejected labour since 2007 , and 2015 respectively?
Perhaps the english simply dont like new labour , and think the party stuffed full of muppets.
I have no idea about what goes on in Scotland. ---- I have not suggested it controls all our minds, just enough to ensure election is all that is needed. In 1979 the Tories and the Tory media lied about the state of the UK economy being caused by Unions and Nationalisation. People believed the lie and voted Thatcher / Tories into office. people didnt believe that lie. You support the uk state , and the uk state controls the media. The question i asked , if the uk state media is a tory propaganda machine why do scots and welsh not vote tory?
scotland and wales didnt.
like i said see 2 , you appear to inhabit another planet most of the time.
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 15:03:41 GMT
Another sick post by yourself. What is sick about it? - Strarmer does think this guy is a woman. Of should we no longer listen to what Starmer says? Has he said so? |
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Post by thomas on May 11, 2023 15:07:12 GMT
What is sick about it? - Strarmer does think this guy is a woman. Of should we no longer listen to what Starmer says? Has he said so? we are at the point with starmers countless u turns no one can trust a thing he says one minute to the next in case his opinion changes in ten seconds time.
When in a hole best to stop digging see 2.
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Post by see2 on May 11, 2023 15:16:39 GMT
I have no idea about what goes on in Scotland. ---- I have not suggested it controls all our minds, just enough to ensure election is all that is needed. In 1979 the Tories and the Tory media lied about the state of the UK economy being caused by Unions and Nationalisation. People believed the lie and voted Thatcher / Tories into office. people didnt believe that lie. You support the uk state , and the uk state controls the media. The question i asked , if the uk state media is a tory propaganda machine why do scots and welsh not vote tory?
scotland and wales didnt.
like i said see 2 , you appear to inhabit another planet most of the time.
1. As usual you reinterpret my post to suit your own thoughts. A. The UK state does not control the media. B. Clearly enough people believed the Media / Newspapers which is why Thatcher stayed in office for 11 years. C. Not one iota of your post faces up to the Thatcher victories that took place despite her mad policies, or the fact that it was only the Conservative Party that understood her madness enough to ditch. |
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