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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 8:37:10 GMT
He has a plan to deal with immigration and asylum seekers unlike the Tories who are weaponizing vulnerable people. I think Starmer is a liar  |
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Post by wapentake on May 6, 2023 8:40:02 GMT
The thought of a Labour government is frightening. Starmer is massively pro EU, he faught for three years to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British history, he kneels for BLM, he's in hoc to the unions, he couldn't describe what a woman is, indeed he said women can have a penis and he has no policy to stop illegal immigration. Even Blair told him to stop being so woke. And some people think the country would be better with prime minister Starmer in charge! Truly mind boggling. We were better off in the EU. He wanted a confirmatory referendum. Kneeling for a cause is not really a problem, many will kneel for the King today. The Unions have no power over todays Labour party. There are recorded cases of women having a penis. He has a plan to deal with immigration and asylum seekers unlike the Tories who are weaponizing vulnerable people. I think Starmer is a liar but he is far better than what we have seen from the Conservatives. Full marks and respect for that,shouldn’t we be looking for some reform of our political system to get away from the two party knockabout though? |
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Post by bancroft on May 6, 2023 9:40:16 GMT
We were better off in the EU. He wanted a confirmatory referendum. Kneeling for a cause is not really a problem, many will kneel for the King today. The Unions have no power over todays Labour party. There are recorded cases of women having a penis. He has a plan to deal with immigration and asylum seekers unlike the Tories who are weaponizing vulnerable people. I think Starmer is a liar but he is far better than what we have seen from the Conservatives. Full marks and respect for that,shouldn’t we be looking for some reform of our political system to get away from the two party knockabout though? How long into a Starmer govt before Angela Rayner and other working class socialist 'heroes' like her knife Starmer in the back? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 10:31:45 GMT
Full marks and respect for that,shouldn’t we be looking for some reform of our political system to get away from the two party knockabout though? How long into a Starmer govt before Angela Rayner and other working class socialist 'heroes' like her knife Starmer in the back? I still think it's all a ploy. Starmer will get elected and will bring back Corbyn as his deputy and they will start renationalising the stuff that the Tories stole from the people.🤣 |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 7, 2023 12:15:43 GMT
The thought of a Labour government is frightening. Starmer is massively pro EU, he faught for three years to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British history, he kneels for BLM, he's in hoc to the unions, he couldn't describe what a woman is, indeed he said women can have a penis and he has no policy to stop illegal immigration. Even Blair told him to stop being so woke. And some people think the country would be better with prime minister Starmer in charge! Truly mind boggling. We were better off in the EU. He wanted a confirmatory referendum. Kneeling for a cause is not really a problem, many will kneel for the King today. The Unions have no power over todays Labour party. There are recorded cases of women having a penis. He has a plan to deal with immigration and asylum seekers unlike the Tories who are weaponizing vulnerable people. I think Starmer is a liar but he is far better than what we have seen from the Conservatives. Dont talk bloody rubbish, 'confirmatory referendum' indeed. Do you think we should have had a 'confirmatory referendum' if we had voted to remain in the EU? Precisely. The only reason Starmer wanted a second referendum is because he disagreed with the result of the biggest democratic vote in British political history, the man is a disgrace. He was 100% behind Corbyn's Marxist agenda and that's because he is and always has been on the left of the Labour party and a very enthusiastic pro EU extremist. On many issues the country may not, indeed does not agree with this government. But faced with the alternative of a Starmer led government, I doubt Sunak has much to worry about. |
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Post by patman post on May 7, 2023 14:58:39 GMT
We were better off in the EU. He wanted a confirmatory referendum. Kneeling for a cause is not really a problem, many will kneel for the King today. The Unions have no power over todays Labour party. There are recorded cases of women having a penis. He has a plan to deal with immigration and asylum seekers unlike the Tories who are weaponizing vulnerable people. I think Starmer is a liar but he is far better than what we have seen from the Conservatives. Dont talk bloody rubbish, 'confirmatory referendum' indeed. Do you think we should have had a 'confirmatory referendum' if we had voted to remain in the EU? Precisely. The only reason Starmer wanted a second referendum is because he disagreed with the result of the biggest democratic vote in British political history, the man is a disgrace. He was 100% behind Corbyn's Marxist agenda and that's because he is and always has been on the left of the Labour party and a very enthusiastic pro EU extremist. On many issues the country may not, indeed does not agree with this government. But faced with the alternative of a Starmer led government, I doubt Sunak has much to worry about. There again, you doubted the Tories would lose more than one thousand council seats on May 4.
I'll pin my hopes on the electorate showing enough sanity to kick heaps more ability and sense into enough Tories to eventually form a government that's good for the whole UK... |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 7, 2023 15:09:33 GMT
Dont talk bloody rubbish, 'confirmatory referendum' indeed. Do you think we should have had a 'confirmatory referendum' if we had voted to remain in the EU? Precisely. The only reason Starmer wanted a second referendum is because he disagreed with the result of the biggest democratic vote in British political history, the man is a disgrace. He was 100% behind Corbyn's Marxist agenda and that's because he is and always has been on the left of the Labour party and a very enthusiastic pro EU extremist. On many issues the country may not, indeed does not agree with this government. But faced with the alternative of a Starmer led government, I doubt Sunak has much to worry about. There again, you doubted the Tories would lose more than one thousand council seats on May 4.
I'll pin my hopes on the electorate showing enough sanity to kick heaps more ability and sense into enough Tories to eventually form a government that's good for the whole UK... Meh, the locals were no real biggy. Yes you will say I'm bound to say that, but everyone knows the government always take a kicking in local elections and besides, some comentators are saying Labour will be disappointed their gains weren't bigger. However, lets not get locals confused with a general election, and speaking of the general election I think it will become increasingly apparent that Starmer has more to worry about than Sunak. |
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Post by patman post on May 7, 2023 15:16:19 GMT
There again, you doubted the Tories would lose more than one thousand council seats on May 4.
I'll pin my hopes on the electorate showing enough sanity to kick heaps more ability and sense into enough Tories to eventually form a government that's good for the whole UK... Meh, the locals were no real biggy. Yes you will say I'm bound to say that, but everyone knows the government always take a kicking in local elections and besides, some comentators are saying Labour will be disappointed their gains weren't bigger. However, lets not get locals confused with a general election, and speaking of the general election I think it will become increasingly apparent that Starmer has more to worry about than Sunak. And Sunak has more to worry about than Labour. He's got factions like Bring Back Boris, Rewood's "Get Righter" group, and the ERG on his own benches — and I don't see that he's yet got the ability or strength to get the party back on track... |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 7, 2023 15:28:15 GMT
Meh, the locals were no real biggy. Yes you will say I'm bound to say that, but everyone knows the government always take a kicking in local elections and besides, some comentators are saying Labour will be disappointed their gains weren't bigger. However, lets not get locals confused with a general election, and speaking of the general election I think it will become increasingly apparent that Starmer has more to worry about than Sunak. And Sunak has more to worry about than Labour. He's got factions like Bring Back Boris, Rewood's "Get Righter" group, and the ERG on his own benches — and I don't see that he's yet got the ability or strength to get the party back on track... Oh I dunno. Yes there are groups on the Tory back benches, but I think you may find as the general election draws closer Tory back benchers will increasingly sing from the same hymn sheet. |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2023 17:29:04 GMT
We were better off in the EU. He wanted a confirmatory referendum. Kneeling for a cause is not really a problem, many will kneel for the King today. The Unions have no power over todays Labour party. There are recorded cases of women having a penis. He has a plan to deal with immigration and asylum seekers unlike the Tories who are weaponizing vulnerable people. I think Starmer is a liar but he is far better than what we have seen from the Conservatives. Dont talk bloody rubbish, 'confirmatory referendum' indeed. Do you think we should have had a 'confirmatory referendum' if we had voted to remain in the EU? Precisely. The only reason Starmer wanted a second referendum is because he disagreed with the result of the biggest democratic vote in British political history, the man is a disgrace. He was 100% behind Corbyn's Marxist agenda and that's because he is and always has been on the left of the Labour party and a very enthusiastic pro EU extremist. On many issues the country may not, indeed does not agree with this government. But faced with the alternative of a Starmer led government, I doubt Sunak has much to worry about. If remain had won the necessity for a confirmatory ref would have been removed. We were inside the EU and therefore knew it's ins and outs, bendy bananas and all. I don't like Starmer either but he would be better than anything the Tories have foisted upon us. Ah yes, Kin-Jong Sunak, the PM that makes the police run beside his motorcade.😒 The PM that bragged about taking money from poor areas and giving it to wealthier areas, that Sunak, the one that likes to break the law, got it. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 7, 2023 17:51:38 GMT
Dont talk bloody rubbish, 'confirmatory referendum' indeed. Do you think we should have had a 'confirmatory referendum' if we had voted to remain in the EU? Precisely. The only reason Starmer wanted a second referendum is because he disagreed with the result of the biggest democratic vote in British political history, the man is a disgrace. He was 100% behind Corbyn's Marxist agenda and that's because he is and always has been on the left of the Labour party and a very enthusiastic pro EU extremist. On many issues the country may not, indeed does not agree with this government. But faced with the alternative of a Starmer led government, I doubt Sunak has much to worry about. If remain had won the necessity for a confirmatory ref would have been removed. We were inside the EU and therefore knew it's ins and outs, bendy bananas and all. I don't like Starmer either but he would be better than anything the Tories have foisted upon us. Ah yes, Kin-Jong Sunak, the PM that makes the police run beside his motorcade.😒 The PM that bragged about taking money from poor areas and giving it to wealthier areas, that Sunak, the one that likes to break the law, got it. LOL, how absolutely typical of an undemocratic remainiac. We were handed to the EU without a referendum, you have no complaint about that. We left the EU with a referendum, and because you disagree with the result you insist on another referendum. You are against democracy, don't you think you may be happier living somewhere like China or North Korea or the EU where the electorate cannot remove the regime or their appointed leaders. |
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Post by patman post on May 7, 2023 22:24:34 GMT
With your aptitude you’ll probably make Britain grate again, thus losing the few friends it still has…
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2023 4:59:32 GMT
If remain had won the necessity for a confirmatory ref would have been removed. We were inside the EU and therefore knew it's ins and outs, bendy bananas and all. I don't like Starmer either but he would be better than anything the Tories have foisted upon us. Ah yes, Kin-Jong Sunak, the PM that makes the police run beside his motorcade.😒 The PM that bragged about taking money from poor areas and giving it to wealthier areas, that Sunak, the one that likes to break the law, got it. LOL, how absolutely typical of an undemocratic remainiac. We were handed to the EU without a referendum, you have no complaint about that. We left the EU with a referendum, and because you disagree with the result you insist on another referendum. You are against democracy, don't you think you may be happier living somewhere like China or North Korea or the EU where the electorate cannot remove the regime or their appointed leaders. LOL how typically archaic from an undemocratic leaver. We first 'associated' with the EU in 1973 that's half a century ago and our relationship developed from there. Leaving was a massive decision for the country and the details did not become clear to the majority of people until after the vote, excluding you of course, a confirmatory vote when the details became clear would have been the democratic way to proceed. You may have known what you were voting for but was it really what transpired? |
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Post by sheepy on May 8, 2023 6:46:08 GMT
LOL, how absolutely typical of an undemocratic remainiac. We were handed to the EU without a referendum, you have no complaint about that. We left the EU with a referendum, and because you disagree with the result you insist on another referendum. You are against democracy, don't you think you may be happier living somewhere like China or North Korea or the EU where the electorate cannot remove the regime or their appointed leaders. LOL how typically archaic from an undemocratic leaver. We first 'associated' with the EU in 1973 that's half a century ago and our relationship developed from there. Leaving was a massive decision for the country and the details did not become clear to the majority of people until after the vote, excluding you of course, a confirmatory vote when the details became clear would have been the democratic way to proceed. You may have known what you were voting for but was it really what transpired? Westminster politics in all its glory, oh no you cannot look forward, we must always look backward. Without the EU we are nothing, but even with it we are still nothing Einstein. |
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Post by Vinny on May 8, 2023 12:22:32 GMT
The thought of a Labour government is frightening. Starmer is massively pro EU, he faught for three years to overturn the biggest democratic vote in British history, he kneels for BLM, he's in hoc to the unions, he couldn't describe what a woman is, indeed he said women can have a penis and he has no policy to stop illegal immigration. Even Blair told him to stop being so woke. And some people think the country would be better with prime minister Starmer in charge! Truly mind boggling. We were better off in the EU. He wanted a confirmatory referendum. Kneeling for a cause is not really a problem, many will kneel for the King today. The Unions have no power over todays Labour party. There are recorded cases of women having a penis. He has a plan to deal with immigration and asylum seekers unlike the Tories who are weaponizing vulnerable people. I think Starmer is a liar but he is far better than what we have seen from the Conservatives. We had a confirmatory referendum in 2016. What he should have done was argue for a "how we leave" referendum. That would have added to his democratic accumen rather than making a sore loser of the man. And women do not have penises. |
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