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Post by Vinny on May 3, 2023 22:47:17 GMT
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Post by Einhorn on May 4, 2023 0:26:26 GMT
You forgot to add how the actual Swedish Government reacted to the right-wing lunatic fringe. 'Within the government, too, voices were raised, with Swedish Employment Minister and Liberal party leader Johan Pehrson strongly reacting to Åkesson’s declarations. “It is completely out of the question that we would reconsider our EU membership,” Pehrson wrote on Twitter, adding that the fact that anyone “can even think about it” after Brexit is, according to him, difficult to understand.'
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Post by sheepy on May 4, 2023 6:27:00 GMT
You forgot to add how the actual Swedish Government reacted to the right-wing lunatic fringe. 'Within the government, too, voices were raised, with Swedish Employment Minister and Liberal party leader Johan Pehrson strongly reacting to Åkesson’s declarations. “It is completely out of the question that we would reconsider our EU membership,” Pehrson wrote on Twitter, adding that the fact that anyone “can even think about it” after Brexit is, according to him, difficult to understand.' But then by voting changes in Sweden the majority of the public are saying they are taking all they are taking by having the lunatics in charge of the Asylum.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 4, 2023 6:41:59 GMT
Membership of the EU (and freedom of movement) has done severe damage to the cohesion of Swedish society. From being one of the safest countries in Europe it's become very unsafe because of all the muslims who've gravitated to their high welfare country. Crime has rocketed. They should have left the EU years ago.
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Post by Vinny on May 4, 2023 7:17:21 GMT
There's a new treaty in the pipeline, if it addresses the drawbacks the EU presently has it might fix the problems that have turned parts of Sweden into shit holes.
If the new treaty is more of the same, the Swedes might want to follow our example.
We're out, it's fine outside the EU.
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Post by Einhorn on May 4, 2023 15:51:00 GMT
There's a new treaty in the pipeline, if it addresses the drawbacks the EU presently has it might fix the problems that have turned parts of Sweden into shit holes. If the new treaty is more of the same, the Swedes might want to follow our example. We're out, it's fine outside the EU. Note that when the Swedish Right made its remarks, the immediate response of the elected Swedish Government was to point to how Brexit had turned out in the UK.
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Post by Bentley on May 4, 2023 16:32:23 GMT
There's a new treaty in the pipeline, if it addresses the drawbacks the EU presently has it might fix the problems that have turned parts of Sweden into shit holes. If the new treaty is more of the same, the Swedes might want to follow our example. We're out, it's fine outside the EU. Note that when the Swedish Right made its remarks, the immediate response of the elected Swedish Government was to point to how Brexit had turned out in the UK. Yeah. Lots of job vacancies , pay rises. Great eh?
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Post by Vinny on May 4, 2023 16:59:22 GMT
And we're doing an extra £50bn of trade with the USA each year too. Good eh?
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Post by bancroft on May 4, 2023 18:05:52 GMT
The major test will come in the Netherlands at their next election when the BBB group will be put to the test and their major grievance is the EU lecturing them over Nitrogen admissions. It looks like they are ready to walk unless the EU backs down.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 4, 2023 19:43:44 GMT
You forgot to add how the actual Swedish Government reacted to the right-wing lunatic fringe. 'Within the government, too, voices were raised, with Swedish Employment Minister and Liberal party leader Johan Pehrson strongly reacting to Åkesson’s declarations. “It is completely out of the question that we would reconsider our EU membership,” Pehrson wrote on Twitter, adding that the fact that anyone “can even think about it” after Brexit is, according to him, difficult to understand.' You forgot to mention 'why' the right became popular in Sweden, a country that was traditionally thought of as a liberal socialist utopia. However, thanks to the EU and mass immigration people have become very disillusioned. Muslims are now the largest minority in Sweden, Muslim gang crime and Muslim Ghettos are out of control which is why last year the Swedish prime minister essentially gave up and said the integration of Muslims in Sweden has failed. Sweden is a classic case of EU failure.
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Post by steppenwolf on May 5, 2023 6:34:09 GMT
There's a new treaty in the pipeline, if it addresses the drawbacks the EU presently has it might fix the problems that have turned parts of Sweden into shit holes. If the new treaty is more of the same, the Swedes might want to follow our example. We're out, it's fine outside the EU. Note that when the Swedish Right made its remarks, the immediate response of the elected Swedish Government was to point to how Brexit had turned out in the UK. We may have technically left the EU in that we no longer pay into the EU budget but we haven't yet repealed any of the EU rules/laws, so we can't yet take advantage of all the opportunities. The Remoaners in Parliament (and in the Blob) are still trying to block Brexit. And they are gradually picking off the real Brexiteers one by one for spurious reasons. Boris has gone (because of a cake) and replaced by a plastic Brexiteer. Raab has gone (because of a tomato) and replaced by two remainers. Barclay or Braverman will be next. Our MPs and the Civil Service just don't accept democracy.
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Post by sheepy on May 5, 2023 7:30:58 GMT
The Swedes in general have realised they have voted for their own demise, I guess they are at a turning point, that learning from their previous mistakes is on the top of the agenda, while the actual politics that has put them in this position is still trying to convince them it wasn't a mistake but good planning, Mmmmm
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