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Post by Handyman on May 3, 2023 17:28:18 GMT
Eleven men accused of historic sexual abuse against three teenage girls in Rochdale are to appear in court.
Their combined 103 charges relate to alleged offences against the three girls between 2000 and 2006.
Greater Manchester Police said they were charged in connection with Operation Lytton - an ongoing investigation into historic sex offences against children.
The suspects are due before Manchester and Salford Magistrates' Court on Wednesday.
Allegations
Tahir Rashid, 52, of Hudsons Walk, Rochdale, has been charged with 13 offences, including rape and penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl.
Mohammad Salim, 44, of Bradley Smithy Close, Rochdale, has been charged with eight offences, including rape and penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl.
Suklene Shah, 44, of Crawford Street, Rochdale, has been charged with two counts of penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl.
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Mohammed Shazad, 42, of Beswicke Royds Street, Rochdale, has been charged with 16 offences, including rape, trafficking persons within the UK for sexual exploitation and penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl.
Nisar Hussain, 39, of Newfield Close, Rochdale, has been charged with three offences, including making indecent images of a child and trafficking persons within the UK for sexual exploitation.
Naheem Akram, 46, of Manley Road, Rochdale, has been charged with 10 offences, including rape and penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl.
Mohammed Zahid, 62, of Station Road, Crumpsall, has been charged with 32 offences, including rape, trafficking persons within the UK for sexual exploitation and penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl, gross indecency with an underage girl, procuring an underage girl to have unlawful sexual intercourse with unknown males.
Roheez Khan, 37, of Athole Street, Rochdale, has been charged with three offences, including rape and penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl.
Arfan Khan, 39, of Grouse Street, Rochdale, has been charged with four offences, including rape and penetrative sexual activity with an underage girl.
Mustaq Ahmed, 65, of Corona Avenue, Oldham, has been charged with six offences, including rape and gross indecency with an underage girl.
Kasir Bashir, 48, of Napier Street East, Oldham, has been charged with six offences, including rape and gross indecency with an underage girl.
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Post by patman post on May 3, 2023 17:39:24 GMT
Those found guilty they should be imprisoned and stripped of citizenship, if possible, and returned to their home countries. All possessions should be subject to sequestration and used to defray the costs of investigation and prosecution.
It’s likely there will also be shortcomings identified in care and policing services during the trials. I hope orders can be made to thoroughly investigate these….
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Post by Vinny on May 3, 2023 18:39:40 GMT
Another gang? Bring back rope.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 20:02:49 GMT
Another gang? Bring back rope. Surely not? The left were wailing that Suella Braverman was lying over this particular type of grooming and raping gang.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on May 5, 2023 9:51:25 GMT
In 2011 I holidayed in West Yorkshire. I visited Rochdale twice. On both occasions I saw groups of Pakistanis openly associating in the High Street with "hypersexualisd" young girls who seemed to me to be under-age. Passers by obviously disapproved of what was going on (loud sexual language from the girls and laughing from the men). A police car drove by ... with one of the policemen smiling at the scene. It was obviously no secret to the local people and police that under-age local girls were "involved with" local Pakistanis. Some of the Pakistanis who ended up being arrested claimed it was the girls who were "seeking them out". From the media reports I get the impression that some girls did seek out Pakistanis (who gave them money and gifts) ... but then got more than they bargained for.
In the 70s and 80s, when I was a squatter, I was frequently propositioned by under-age girls (I was in my 30s). On one occasion a girl turned up at my squat and made it plain she was "after sex" ... and also had a friend waiting outside. She came across as being in her late teens ... but I had been warned about her ... she was 13. On another occasion one of a group of underage girls called out to me as I passed on the opposite side of the road, pointed to another girl and said: "She wants you to be her uncle." The girl she pointed to then came towards me moving in a sexual manner. I laughed and said: "Very fanny" and walked on. The girls went into peals of laughter. Once as I walked past two young girls one of them pushed the other into me ... who "gave me a feel". The law back then didn't take much notice of what was going on. Maybe the change in the law resulted in under-age girls who were sexually active seeking out Asians because white men were wary of being arrested and Asian men were less likely to be arrested because of the unwillingness of the police to investigate their activities?
Did I ever screw an under-age girl? No ... . nor did I ever engage in any form of sexual activity with them.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 5, 2023 12:00:52 GMT
Those found guilty they should be imprisoned and stripped of citizenship, if possible, and returned to their home countries. All possessions should be subject to sequestration and used to defray the costs of investigation and prosecution. It’s likely there will also be shortcomings identified in care and policing services during the trials. I hope orders can be made to thoroughly investigate these…. I was going to say the same thing myself. We need to send the trash back to where it came from after a long sentence.
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Post by patman post on May 5, 2023 12:04:56 GMT
In 2011 I holidayed in West Yorkshire. I visited Rochdale twice. On both occasions I saw groups of Pakistanis openly associating in the High Street with "hypersexualisd" young girls who seemed to me to be under-age. Passers by obviously disapproved of what was going on (loud sexual language from the girls and laughing from the men). A police car drove by ... with one of the policemen smiling at the scene. It was obviously no secret to the local people and police that under-age local girls were "involved with" local Pakistanis. Some of the Pakistanis who ended up being arrested claimed it was the girls who were "seeking them out". From the media reports I get the impression that some girls did seek out Pakistanis (who gave them money and gifts) ... but then got more than they bargained for. In the 70s and 80s, when I was a squatter, I was frequently propositioned by under-age girls (I was in my 30s). On one occasion a girl turned up at my squat and made it plain she was "after sex" ... and also had a friend waiting outside. She came across as being in her late teens ... but I had been warned about her ... she was 13. On another occasion one of a group of underage girls called out to me as I passed on the opposite side of the road, pointed to another girl and said: "She wants you to be her uncle." The girl she pointed to then came towards me moving in a sexual manner. I laughed and said: "Very fanny" and walked on. The girls went into peals of laughter. Once as I walked past two young girls one of them pushed the other into me ... who "gave me a feel". The law back then didn't take much notice of what was going on. Maybe the change in the law resulted in under-age girls who were sexually active seeking out Asians because white men were wary of being arrested and Asian men were less likely to be arrested because of the unwillingness of the police to investigate their activities? Did I ever screw an under-age girl? No ... . nor did I ever engage in any form of sexual activity with them. Underaged girls seeking sex are still around in London. At the risk of attracting the anger of posters here, it’s my observation around local clubs and hangouts, that while there are “working girls” of most ethnicities, those obviously underage are White and they tend to target non-White…
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Post by sandypine on May 5, 2023 14:16:18 GMT
In 2011 I holidayed in West Yorkshire. I visited Rochdale twice. On both occasions I saw groups of Pakistanis openly associating in the High Street with "hypersexualisd" young girls who seemed to me to be under-age. Passers by obviously disapproved of what was going on (loud sexual language from the girls and laughing from the men). A police car drove by ... with one of the policemen smiling at the scene. It was obviously no secret to the local people and police that under-age local girls were "involved with" local Pakistanis. Some of the Pakistanis who ended up being arrested claimed it was the girls who were "seeking them out". From the media reports I get the impression that some girls did seek out Pakistanis (who gave them money and gifts) ... but then got more than they bargained for. In the 70s and 80s, when I was a squatter, I was frequently propositioned by under-age girls (I was in my 30s). On one occasion a girl turned up at my squat and made it plain she was "after sex" ... and also had a friend waiting outside. She came across as being in her late teens ... but I had been warned about her ... she was 13. On another occasion one of a group of underage girls called out to me as I passed on the opposite side of the road, pointed to another girl and said: "She wants you to be her uncle." The girl she pointed to then came towards me moving in a sexual manner. I laughed and said: "Very fanny" and walked on. The girls went into peals of laughter. Once as I walked past two young girls one of them pushed the other into me ... who "gave me a feel". The law back then didn't take much notice of what was going on. Maybe the change in the law resulted in under-age girls who were sexually active seeking out Asians because white men were wary of being arrested and Asian men were less likely to be arrested because of the unwillingness of the police to investigate their activities? Did I ever screw an under-age girl? No ... . nor did I ever engage in any form of sexual activity with them. Underaged girls seeking sex are still around in London. At the risk of attracting the anger of posters here, it’s my observation around local clubs and hangouts, that while there are “working girls” of most ethnicities, those obviously underage are White and they tend to target non-White… Why do you think an underage white working girl would target non white clientele?
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Post by patman post on May 5, 2023 15:09:55 GMT
Underaged girls seeking sex are still around in London. At the risk of attracting the anger of posters here, it’s my observation around local clubs and hangouts, that while there are “working girls” of most ethnicities, those obviously underage are White and they tend to target non-White… Why do you think an underage white working girl would target non white clientele? I can only speculate — but could it be that the targeted have the reputation of being freer spenders, or having bigger dicks…?
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Post by Orac on May 5, 2023 15:14:59 GMT
Is there a schoolground rumour going around about Pakistani men in particular? It's also seems odd that Pakistani men can be identified as such so reliably
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Post by Bentley on May 5, 2023 15:46:03 GMT
Why do you think an underage white working girl would target non white clientele? I can only speculate — but could it be that the targeted have the reputation of being freer spenders, or having bigger dicks…? Possibly. Non whites might be more willing to give them stuff and cover up for each other. White guys might not be willing do that if they found out that the girl was a pass around for non whites too.
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Post by sandypine on May 5, 2023 17:26:47 GMT
Why do you think an underage white working girl would target non white clientele? I can only speculate — but could it be that the targeted have the reputation of being freer spenders, or having bigger dicks…? I would think that young working girls as a preference would prefer smaller dicks and non whites are supposed to be on average poorer so less able to spend freely.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on May 5, 2023 19:26:22 GMT
I can only speculate — but could it be that the targeted have the reputation of being freer spenders, or having bigger dicks…? I would think that young working girls as a preference would prefer smaller dicks and non whites are supposed to be on average poorer so less able to spend freely. There was a news report from India a while back that claimed that European condoms were too large for Indian men. As for big dicks ... firemen are said to be very well-endowed ... hence the goings on since women were allowed into the service.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 21:13:14 GMT
Another gang? Bring back rope. Surely not? The left were wailing that Suella Braverman was lying over this particular type of grooming and raping gang. Give it a few years and you'll probably be arrested for questioning your authoritarian leftwing masters.
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Post by johnofgwent on May 6, 2023 21:52:27 GMT
Why do you think an underage white working girl would target non white clientele? I can only speculate — but could it be that the targeted have the reputation of being freer spenders, or having bigger dicks…? Well they should run an FOI request to Durex then. Because at least a decade ago they revealed they had to do a special SMALL range for the Indian and Pakistani market and bring in an extra large in South Africa
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