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Post by B0ycey on Oct 24, 2022 19:51:11 GMT
The economy? FFS boycey what are you on man ? Sunak is being mocked relentlessly , as the man who is the achitect of the destruction of the uk economy , and is that poor politically he lost in a political talent contest to Liz Fucking Truss!!! Safe pair of hands lmfao.
So far his economic record is he pointed out to this woman
how fucking mental she was and got lauded for it ! You could have done that boycey.
Perhaps Thomas. The truth is, this mess was created by BoJo jumping on the Covid wagon and borrowing shit loads for everyone sitting on their ass and not necessary Truss giving the rich a tax cut. I remember me you and Deppity Dawg telling all the Covid freaks on the other forum that one day the piper was going to demand his pound of flesh for borrowing unsustainable levels and Truss fucked up Trust in the UK economy to such an extent that interest on borrowing would have meant an IMF bailout which sped that day up immensely. That is because we had just borrowed upto 100% GDP and the interest on our borrowing would have led to a death spiral of inflation much like Argentina as such high glits that didn't regain that interest with tax receipts would flood the economy of sterling. We can debate whether Sunak is popular or not if you like but I would pretty much agree with everything you write. My support for Sunak is that he is going to balance the books and that we don't turn into Greece. If he can do that he has my support until the next election. Then I want the guy out just as much as you. We need a party who is going to tax the pips out of the rich and the energy companies that profit from today's crisis and the Tories aren't going to do that whether that is Sunak, Mordaunt or Johnson. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 24, 2022 20:03:31 GMT
We need a party who is going to tax the pips out of the rich and the energy companies that profit from today's crisis and the Tories aren't going to do that whether that is Sunak, Mordaunt or Johnson. Or keir starmer and new labour. Im not sure why you withhold your fire to the newest version of new labour , small c tories to the core , but mock the blue tories?
Starmer time will come.So far , he has escaped much scrutiny , sat on his hands , and in short been nothing but a complete fucking puffball. Im bored with the tories and taking the piss out them.
My powder is now being kept dry for a general election , and turning all fire on new labour. 7/10 scots reject labour , and most of my family friends and acquaintences hate them with a passion and see no difference between red and blue tory.
Starmer isnt going to solve the uk mess. He is an establishment man , a continuity candidate like sunak , who will fall into place to manage decline.
The uk problems are far bigger and go much deeper than shagger johnson and his antics , brexit , covid or energy issues.
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 24, 2022 20:10:40 GMT
Or keir starmer and new labour. Im not sure why you withhold your fire to the newest version of new labour , small c tories to the core , but mock the blue tories?
Starmer time will come.So far , he has escaped much scrutiny , sat on his hands , and in short been nothing but a complete fucking puffball. Im bored with the tories and taking the piss out them.
My powder is now being kept dry for a general election , and turning all fire on new labour. 7/10 scots reject labour , and most of my family friends and acquaintences hate them with a passion and see no difference between red and blue tory.
Starmer isnt going to solve the uk mess. He is an establishment man , a continuity candidate like sunak , who will fall into place to manage decline.
The uk problems are far bigger and go much deeper than shagger johnson and his antics , brexit , covid or energy issues.
Indeed. Don't think Starmer is the answer either. He is perhaps just a little better than the Tory drones because he will tax the right people. Nonetheless I will give him a shot, if anything because I support his idea of GB energy and if he is shit I would oust him out and get... cough... Long Bailey in. I understand that perhaps she isn't the right candidate for you either but it maybe Scotland get their referendum from the Supreme Court and become independent and this thinking becomes moot. |
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Post by thomas on Oct 24, 2022 20:18:55 GMT
Or keir starmer and new labour. Im not sure why you withhold your fire to the newest version of new labour , small c tories to the core , but mock the blue tories?
Starmer time will come.So far , he has escaped much scrutiny , sat on his hands , and in short been nothing but a complete fucking puffball. Im bored with the tories and taking the piss out them.
My powder is now being kept dry for a general election , and turning all fire on new labour. 7/10 scots reject labour , and most of my family friends and acquaintences hate them with a passion and see no difference between red and blue tory.
Starmer isnt going to solve the uk mess. He is an establishment man , a continuity candidate like sunak , who will fall into place to manage decline.
The uk problems are far bigger and go much deeper than shagger johnson and his antics , brexit , covid or energy issues.
Indeed. Don't think Starmer is the answer either. He is perhaps just a little better than the Tory drones because he will tax the right people. Nonetheless I will give him a shot, if anything because I support his idea of GB energy and if he is shit I would oust him out and get... cough... Long Bailey in. I understand that perhaps she isn't the right candidate for you either but it maybe Scotland get their referendum from the Supreme Court and become independent and this thinking becomes moot. His idea of GB energy , is once again a london politician using scotland resources for their own political gain in their own country. The snp and alba , and wider yes movement are going to have a field day with starmer and his scum labour party.
You give him a shot all you like , i dream of the day keir starmer and his british ilk are no longer entwined in my countrys politics or resources. Meanwhile , while are kept prisoner in the senate , rome continues to burn.
Labour will merely add fuel to the fire. England is going to go ballistic like never before if labour get in and start taking englandshire back into the EU. Farage and tice will be having a field day , and i geuinely see both the big two parties being wiped off the face of the earth.
I always say labour arent as clever politically as the tories , and one of their big faults is their overbearing arrogance and that they see the plebs as stupid. Westminster is a fucking side show for most of us , and some cunt should chisel the fucking place out of london and float it down the thames.
Fuck the supreme court as well. boycey. No one gives a fuck about their judgement. That wont stop scots leaving the uk no matter what they say , just as no anglo court could stop 65 other nations leaving the empire.
Sturgeon wont always be in charge .....
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 24, 2022 20:29:25 GMT
Indeed. Don't think Starmer is the answer either. He is perhaps just a little better than the Tory drones because he will tax the right people. Nonetheless I will give him a shot, if anything because I support his idea of GB energy and if he is shit I would oust him out and get... cough... Long Bailey in. I understand that perhaps she isn't the right candidate for you either but it maybe Scotland get their referendum from the Supreme Court and become independent and this thinking becomes moot. His idea of GB energy , is once again a london politician using scotland resources for their own political gain in their own country. The snp and alba , and wider yes movement are going to have a field day with starmer and his scum labour party. You give him a shot all you like , i dream of the day keir starmer and his british ilk are no longer entwined in my countrys politics or resources. Meanwhile , while are kept prisoner in the senate , rome continues to burn. Labour will merely add fuel to the fire. England is going to go ballistic like never before if labour get in and start taking englandshire back into the EU. Farage and tice will be having a field day , and i geuinely see both the big two parties being wiped off the face of the earth. I always say labour arent as clever politically as the tories , and one of their big faults is their overbearing arrogance and that they see the plebs as stupid. Westminster is a fucking side show for most of us , and some cunt should chisel the fucking place out of london and float it down the thames. Fuck the supreme court as well. boycey. No one gives a fuck about their judgement. That wont stop scots leaving the uk no matter what they say , just as no anglo court could stop 65 other nations leaving the empire. Sturgeon wont always be in charge .....
Mind you, I have yet to register to vote yet. But if I do I would likely vote Starmer because I think GB energy is a good idea that all parties should support. But where I live Labour need one hell of a swing in any case. As for using Scottish resources for GB energy, actually Starmer should utilise there given the best wind fields are in Scotland. But my instinct is just like the Tories before him, he will prioritise English sea pitches on the fear of Scottish independence. I think we all know Scotland will become independent one day. Westminster is just waiting as long as possible until the movement can't be ignored any longer and that is stopping investment there when investment there makes the most sense. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 24, 2022 21:50:19 GMT
They did - Crash Gordon introduced a whole new regulation system which then proceeded to spectacularly collapse during the financial crisis. . Northern Rock went bust three months after he got power and he regulated too late as the damage was already done. You can't stop the Titanic from sinking by buying a few buckets like Brown couldn't stop the financial crash when banks had already bought up shit loads of Yanky mortgages in toxic assets. .. a practice not regulated as Thatcher deregulated the financial sector. of course it was after not before - it was the financial crisis that exposed the flaws in Crash Gordons regulatory system. as for your idea that Thatcher was responsible for a regulatory system designed by Crash Gordon collapsing...  |
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 24, 2022 22:18:31 GMT
After not before. Northern Rock went bust three months after he got power and he regulated too late as the damage was already done. You can't stop the Titanic from sinking by buying a few buckets like Brown couldn't stop the financial crash when banks had already bought up shit loads of Yanky mortgages in toxic assets. .. a practice not regulated as Thatcher deregulated the financial sector. of course it was after not before - it was the financial crisis that exposed the flaws in Crash Gordons regulatory system. as for your idea that Thatcher was responsible for a regulatory system designed by Crash Gordon collapsing... I don't know what to say. You either are aware of Thacther deregulating the financial sector or you aren't. De regulation historically has always caused bubbles because the checks and balances aren't there. It was Thatchers Big Bang that meant our banking system was able to buy a bunch of yanky mortgages bundled up with other financial products, most of which were handed out to people who couldn't afford them. All Brown did was regulate the sector so people couldn't get 120% mortgages doing 5 hours a week and force banks to do background checks on people which frankly should have been going on anyway. You cannot blame him for the mess that the Tories set off. Or you can. He only acted when it was too late and our banks wanted bailing out so he was slow to act which is true to Blair and Major as well. But hindsight is a beautiful thing. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 25, 2022 6:54:36 GMT
of course it was after not before - it was the financial crisis that exposed the flaws in Crash Gordons regulatory system. as for your idea that Thatcher was responsible for a regulatory system designed by Crash Gordon collapsing... I don't know what to say. You either are aware of Thacther deregulating the financial sector or you aren't. De regulation historically has always caused bubbles because the checks and balances aren't there. It was Thatchers Big Bang that meant our banking system was able to buy a bunch of yanky mortgages bundled up with other financial products, most of which were handed out to people who couldn't afford them. All Brown did was regulate the sector so people couldn't get 120% mortgages doing 5 hours a week and force banks to do background checks on people which frankly should have been going on anyway. You cannot blame him for the mess that the Tories set off. Or you can. He only acted when it was too late and our banks wanted bailing out so he was slow to act which is true to Blair and Major as well. But hindsight is a beautiful thing. Thatcher changed the regulation system for the Financial Markets - Crash Gordan came along and replaced Thatchers system with one of his own devising.. Guess which one collapsed during the financial crisis.. |
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 25, 2022 7:44:02 GMT
I don't know what to say. You either are aware of Thacther deregulating the financial sector or you aren't. De regulation historically has always caused bubbles because the checks and balances aren't there. It was Thatchers Big Bang that meant our banking system was able to buy a bunch of yanky mortgages bundled up with other financial products, most of which were handed out to people who couldn't afford them. All Brown did was regulate the sector so people couldn't get 120% mortgages doing 5 hours a week and force banks to do background checks on people which frankly should have been going on anyway. You cannot blame him for the mess that the Tories set off. Or you can. He only acted when it was too late and our banks wanted bailing out so he was slow to act which is true to Blair and Major as well. But hindsight is a beautiful thing. Thatcher changed the regulation system for the Financial Markets - Crash Gordan came along and replaced Thatchers system with one of his own devising.. Guess which one collapsed during the financial crisis.. Thatchers system collapsed given the crash was first spotted as a problem with Northern Rock three months after Brown became PM and Brown was trying (but failing) to reverse the damage of two decades of bad banking practices. Like a bucket on the Titanic, once the damage is done there isn't much you can do. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 25, 2022 7:50:06 GMT
Thatcher changed the regulation system for the Financial Markets - Crash Gordan came along and replaced Thatchers system with one of his own devising.. Guess which one collapsed during the financial crisis.. Thatchers system collapsed given the crash was first spotted as a problem with Northern Rock three months after Brown became PM and Brown was trying (but failing) to reverse the damage of two decades of bad banking practices. Like a bucket on the Titanic, once the damage is done there isn't much you can do. Northern Rock failed in 2007 - Crash Gordon restructured the financial regulation system in 2001 |
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Post by thomas on Oct 25, 2022 8:04:10 GMT
His idea of GB energy , is once again a london politician using scotland resources for their own political gain in their own country. The snp and alba , and wider yes movement are going to have a field day with starmer and his scum labour party. You give him a shot all you like , i dream of the day keir starmer and his british ilk are no longer entwined in my countrys politics or resources. Meanwhile , while are kept prisoner in the senate , rome continues to burn. Labour will merely add fuel to the fire. England is going to go ballistic like never before if labour get in and start taking englandshire back into the EU. Farage and tice will be having a field day , and i geuinely see both the big two parties being wiped off the face of the earth. I always say labour arent as clever politically as the tories , and one of their big faults is their overbearing arrogance and that they see the plebs as stupid. Westminster is a fucking side show for most of us , and some cunt should chisel the fucking place out of london and float it down the thames. Fuck the supreme court as well. boycey. No one gives a fuck about their judgement. That wont stop scots leaving the uk no matter what they say , just as no anglo court could stop 65 other nations leaving the empire. Sturgeon wont always be in charge .....
Mind you, I have yet to register to vote yet. But if I do I would likely vote Starmer because I think GB energy is a good idea that all parties should support. But where I live Labour need one hell of a swing in any case. As for using Scottish resources for GB energy, actually Starmer should utilise there given the best wind fields are in Scotland. But my instinct is just like the Tories before him, he will prioritise English sea pitches on the fear of Scottish independence. I think we all know Scotland will become independent one day. Westminster is just waiting as long as possible until the movement can't be ignored any longer and that is stopping investment there when investment there makes the most sense. Well lets hope your vote for labour makes little difference. We dont want any red tory scum representing my country , or being used as voting fodder to force england back in the EU against the english pulbics will.
Starmer shouldnt be anywhere near scottish resources. Like i say , that all scotland is to british labour , a land to be used and abused for resources and voting fodder for the political battles in England. Im old enough to remember scum like the feeble fifty labour wallopers.
As for labours core economic policy , bloomberg among others report they would rape £28 billion from a north sea oil and gas windfall , while also taking £billions more from the already established 65 % tax. Their whole core economic policy is based on scotlands resources , and we are making sure every scot knows it.
I will be voting against the labour party at each and every election as i have done for years now.
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 25, 2022 8:38:06 GMT
Thatchers system collapsed given the crash was first spotted as a problem with Northern Rock three months after Brown became PM and Brown was trying (but failing) to reverse the damage of two decades of bad banking practices. Like a bucket on the Titanic, once the damage is done there isn't much you can do. Northern Rock failed in 2007 - Crash Gordon restructured the financial regulation system in 2001 Ehhh, Brown wasn't PM in 2001 and I am not aware of such restructuring either and I studied economics at uni. Also you are implying a chancellor has authority over the PM which also isn't true. I am aware of his restructuring after the crisis and him being hailed as the saviour of the world market in the press. www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-saved-banksBesides it is generally accepted that the crash of 2008 was due to deregulation and that can be traced back to Thatcher for the UK at least. And the crash was mainly due to the Yanks anyway. |
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 25, 2022 8:39:02 GMT
Northern Rock failed in 2007 - Crash Gordon restructured the financial regulation system in 2001 Ehhh, Brown wasn't PM in 2001 and I am not aware of such restructuring either and I studied economics at uni. And if you implying a chancellor has authority over the PM that is false too. I am however aware of his restructuring after the crisis and him being hailed as the saviour of the world market in the press. www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/feb/21/gordon-brown-saved-banksBesides it is generally accepted that the crash of 2008 was due to deregulation and that can be traced back to Thatcher for the UK at least. And the crash was mainly due to the Yanks anyway. |
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Post by B0ycey on Oct 25, 2022 8:42:05 GMT
Mind you, I have yet to register to vote yet. But if I do I would likely vote Starmer because I think GB energy is a good idea that all parties should support. But where I live Labour need one hell of a swing in any case. As for using Scottish resources for GB energy, actually Starmer should utilise there given the best wind fields are in Scotland. But my instinct is just like the Tories before him, he will prioritise English sea pitches on the fear of Scottish independence. I think we all know Scotland will become independent one day. Westminster is just waiting as long as possible until the movement can't be ignored any longer and that is stopping investment there when investment there makes the most sense. Well lets hope your vote for labour makes little difference. We dont want any red tory scum representing my country , or being used as voting fodder to force england back in the EU against the english pulbics will.
Starmer shouldnt be anywhere near scottish resources. Like i say , that all scotland is to british labour , a land to be used and abused for resources and voting fodder for the political battles in England. Im old enough to remember scum like the feeble fifty labour wallopers.
As for labours core economic policy , bloomberg among others report they would rape £28 billion from a north sea oil and gas windfall , while also taking £billions more from the already established 65 % tax. Their whole core economic policy is based on scotlands resources , and we are making sure every scot knows it.
I will be voting against the labour party at each and every election as i have done for years now.
I doubt my vote will matter even if I registered Thomas. If anything the SNP will get a bigger vote share as there isn't much love for Westminster here. I don't live in a border county which I expect will turn red. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 25, 2022 10:34:39 GMT
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