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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 25, 2023 12:09:40 GMT
Rishi says to industry, come and see us. We are holding a questions and answers conference with the heads of industry.
The managing director of Burberry decides to attend because he wants to know why in every European country, foreigners get the VAT back on goods purchased as a tourist except Britain. Of course when we were in the EU the tax rules were the same, but recently the hapless chancellor decided to change it so they get taxed in Britain but nowhere else.
As you may well know, airports are full of scavengers trying to sell you £100 pots of perfume while you wait for the cows to come home for the flight to get its shit together. Burberry are the kind of company that does the same thing with over-priced bags. As one can imagine they do a lot of trade with rich Chinese and American tourists, the ones with the money, as no ordinary Brit has £500 to piss away on a bag. It's the market of conspicuous consumption, so this is where Burberry makes a lot of its money. When the rules changed they saw their business drop like a stone overnight.
Lets see what Rishi has to say, being the financial whizz kid we believe he is.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 26, 2023 10:06:41 GMT
no ordinary Brit has £500 to piss away on a bag Ondeed tbey have nit. But i say if rich yanks snd chinese have £500 to blow on such an item, they can clearly afford the extra 20% VAT Hey, as we are now foreigners to the EU does this mean if i buy something in Croatia in the Autumn, I can get the VAT back like the yanks can ?
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 26, 2023 12:19:17 GMT
no ordinary Brit has £500 to piss away on a bag Ondeed tbey have nit. But i say if rich yanks snd chinese have £500 to blow on such an item, they can clearly afford the extra 20% VAT Hey, as we are now foreigners to the EU does this mean if i buy something in Croatia in the Autumn, I can get the VAT back like the yanks can ? Rich people in those countries are often businessmen who did not get rich by paying 20% more than they have to. I wouldn't if I were they. I'd think, well if we stop off in Paris we can get 20% more for our bucks. Everyone likes a bargain.
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Post by om15 on Apr 28, 2023 8:36:18 GMT
When I hear or read the observations made by Lord Frost I fervently wish that he was PM and not the wishy washy Ricky, today Lord Frost has written an article in the Telegraph pointing out our failings and how football clubs are managed better than the Government/Civil Service/Universities. It got me thinking. What would the Premier League be like if it ran itself like nearly everyone else – the government, our big companies, the universities, or the NHS? For a start, you couldn’t be sure that team members would show up on the day, as some might prefer to work flexibly or from home. Managers’ half-time talks would count as bullying. Substituting a poorly performing player would be victimisation. Every red card and every club fine would be followed by a grievance procedure and an employment tribunal. And relegation would be banned as damaging to footballers’ self-esteem. We would also have very low expectations of the players. We would be more concerned with whether teams matched the ethnic and religious composition of Britain, not whether the footballers themselves were any good. Clubs wouldn’t be able to bring in great players and pay them what they were worth. Instead, they’d have to come in at the right point on the salary scale and work their way up. And only the most motivated players would want to learn and improve, because they wouldn’t be rewarded for it.www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/27/britain-is-now-rapidly-giving-up-on-excellence/
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 28, 2023 8:43:48 GMT
An amusing vignette from Lord Frost, however he doesn't tell the whole story. If the government, our big companies, the universities, or the NHS were run like the Premier League then 75% of the employees would be foreigners.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 28, 2023 11:28:19 GMT
When I hear or read the observations made by Lord Frost I fervently wish that he was PM and not the wishy washy Ricky, today Lord Frost has written an article in the Telegraph pointing out our failings and how football clubs are managed better than the Government/Civil Service/Universities. It got me thinking. What would the Premier League be like if it ran itself like nearly everyone else – the government, our big companies, the universities, or the NHS? For a start, you couldn’t be sure that team members would show up on the day, as some might prefer to work flexibly or from home. Managers’ half-time talks would count as bullying. Substituting a poorly performing player would be victimisation. Every red card and every club fine would be followed by a grievance procedure and an employment tribunal. And relegation would be banned as damaging to footballers’ self-esteem. We would also have very low expectations of the players. We would be more concerned with whether teams matched the ethnic and religious composition of Britain, not whether the footballers themselves were any good. Clubs wouldn’t be able to bring in great players and pay them what they were worth. Instead, they’d have to come in at the right point on the salary scale and work their way up. And only the most motivated players would want to learn and improve, because they wouldn’t be rewarded for it.www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/27/britain-is-now-rapidly-giving-up-on-excellence/I really wish the footballers would go on strike. I'm sick of listening to it every time I switch the radio on, as if it were of national importance.
It's sod's law now. Those most likely to strike are those that are the most essential.
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Apr 30, 2023 16:46:37 GMT
Rishi's body language incorporates behaviour that is alien to our culture. He's an English speaking "foreigner" who thinks that the culture he comes from is superior to ours.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 21:18:21 GMT
Rishi's body language incorporates behaviour that is alien to our culture. He's an English speaking "foreigner" who thinks that the culture he comes from is superior to ours. I couldn't really disagree with you more.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 9:12:52 GMT
When I hear or read the observations made by Lord Frost I fervently wish that he was PM and not the wishy washy Ricky, today Lord Frost has written an article in the Telegraph pointing out our failings and how football clubs are managed better than the Government/Civil Service/Universities. It got me thinking. What would the Premier League be like if it ran itself like nearly everyone else – the government, our big companies, the universities, or the NHS? For a start, you couldn’t be sure that team members would show up on the day, as some might prefer to work flexibly or from home. Managers’ half-time talks would count as bullying. Substituting a poorly performing player would be victimisation. Every red card and every club fine would be followed by a grievance procedure and an employment tribunal. And relegation would be banned as damaging to footballers’ self-esteem. We would also have very low expectations of the players. We would be more concerned with whether teams matched the ethnic and religious composition of Britain, not whether the footballers themselves were any good. Clubs wouldn’t be able to bring in great players and pay them what they were worth. Instead, they’d have to come in at the right point on the salary scale and work their way up. And only the most motivated players would want to learn and improve, because they wouldn’t be rewarded for it.www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/27/britain-is-now-rapidly-giving-up-on-excellence/I really wish the footballers would go on strike. I'm sick of listening to it every time I switch the radio on, as if it were of national importance.
It's sod's law now. Those most likely to strike are those that are the most essential.
Perhaps because those most likely to strike appear to be those whose terms and conditions are being worsened most sharply. Which is not of course anything footballers ever have to worry about.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on May 1, 2023 11:56:08 GMT
I really wish the footballers would go on strike. I'm sick of listening to it every time I switch the radio on, as if it were of national importance.
It's sod's law now. Those most likely to strike are those that are the most essential.
Perhaps because those most likely to strike appear to be those whose terms and conditions are being worsened most sharply. Which is not of course anything footballers ever have to worry about. I've no doubt working in the UK at an average workplace is a bitch. It's why I don't do it myself. For me though it would be more about the job than the pay. One tends to expect higher pay for an unpleasant job, which is perfectly natural and reasonable. However what I deduce from others is the firms are run in such idiot ways that what could be an easy job turns out to be a nightmare.
OK I'm no expert in UK employment as most of my friends are highly unusual and some are not even working in this country, but to give you an idea what I see, my Italian woman does an acting job where she works on films. The amount of fucking about to get each job is unbelievable. She will often only get a day or even hours notification of where she is supposed to be at a certain time and half the arrangements made are cancelled. If they can't organise such a simple thing, then I would hate to experience what goes on in a complicated process. Well we know really don't we. Hinckley Point was supposed to be online and feeding leccy into the grid in 2022. It's still a building site and the fuckwits have sacked the firm who knew how to put it together for political reasons. Actually this is one big reason why energy bills are so high. It's supposed to supply 7% of the country's electricity, which has caused inflation in the energy costs, which has then caused inflation in everything that uses energy and in turn that has caused a national strike.
The answer is no we should not pay more. We are getting a sub-standard service so we should pay less until they improve it.
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