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Post by Pacifico on Apr 24, 2023 17:11:16 GMT
NI is following some EU rules - that doesn't mean it is in the EU. The rest of the UK could also choose to follow some EU rules (several have suggested just that) - but that wouldn't make us EU members. Other countries outside of the EU follow some EU rules - for Example Montenegro follows EU financial regulations and uses the Euro, but it still remains a candidate country outside of the EU. You're arguing against a point I am not making. I have never claimed that Northern Ireland is a member of the EU. What I claim is that it is IN -- i.e., part of -- the EU by virtue of the fact that it is subject to EU trade rules and regulations and is to a great extend under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. Well the rest of the UK are subject to EU trade rules (and thus ECJ jurisdiction) when we trade with the EU - does that mean that the UK is still 'IN' the EU? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 17:13:33 GMT
Cut the "political compromise over a hard border" crap. You're deflecting and it's tedious and stupid. Just describe Norway, Switzerland, the EEA, Andorra even, vis a vis the EU. What is stupid is your claim that NI is part of the EU and therefore the UK has not left the EU. It’s all been explained to you. Your “ANSWER ME!” tantrum isn’t helping your case either 😁 Doesn't the fact that NI follows EU rules and is subject (though in a limited way) to ECJ jurisdiction make NI a part of the EU? Yes, it does. I mean, how can you not be a part of something when you participate in that something? |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 24, 2023 17:16:11 GMT
What is stupid is your claim that NI is part of the EU and therefore the UK has not left the EU. It’s all been explained to you. Your “ANSWER ME!” tantrum isn’t helping your case either 😁 Doesn't the fact that NI follows EU rules and is subject (though in a limited way) to ECJ jurisdiction make NI a part of the EU? Yes, it does. I mean, how can you not be a part of something when you participate in that something? Nope. It makes it an anomaly due to a political compromise. For the umpteenth time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2023 17:31:36 GMT
Doesn't the fact that NI follows EU rules and is subject (though in a limited way) to ECJ jurisdiction make NI a part of the EU? Yes, it does. I mean, how can you not be a part of something when you participate in that something? Nope. It makes it an anomaly due to a political compromise. For the umpteenth time. Whether it's an anomaly that NI got to be where it is does not matter. What matters is the fact that it follows EU rules, is subject to ECJ laws, has to check GB goods and overall participate in the EU single market. That participation makes NI a part of the EU. And next time, don't insert this irrelevant argument of yours that it's an anomaly. It's just a deflection on your part. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 24, 2023 17:49:18 GMT
Northern Ireland is not in the EU.
Gibraltar is not in the EU.
Not difficult to understand.
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Post by bancroft on Apr 24, 2023 20:29:52 GMT
Loads in the Republic of Ireland use the NHS in N.I.
Irish pay approx 50 Euros to see a doctor.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 24, 2023 21:47:52 GMT
Nope. It makes it an anomaly due to a political compromise. For the umpteenth time. Whether it's an anomaly that NI got to be where it is does not matter. What matters is the fact that it follows EU rules, is subject to ECJ laws, has to check GB goods and overall participate in the EU single market. That participation makes NI a part of the EU. And next time, don't insert this irrelevant argument of yours that it's an anomaly. It's just a deflection on your part. It does matter. The UK has left the EU. The Brexit mission has been accomplished. Dry your eyes, put your big boy pants on and accept it . |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 24, 2023 21:48:30 GMT
Northern Ireland is not in the EU. Gibraltar is not in the EU. Not difficult to understand. It is if you are a bitter ex remainer in denial. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 7:34:31 GMT
Whether it's an anomaly that NI got to be where it is does not matter. What matters is the fact that it follows EU rules, is subject to ECJ laws, has to check GB goods and overall participate in the EU single market. That participation makes NI a part of the EU. And next time, don't insert this irrelevant argument of yours that it's an anomaly. It's just a deflection on your part. It does matter. The UK has left the EU. The Brexit mission has been accomplished. Dry your eyes, put your big boy pants on and accept it . It is a point irrelevant to the discussion so it does not matter. You've just been trying to pivot to something else. But, yeah, the UK has indeed left the EU and has moved next door to the brand new lean-to with a small connecting door built by Sunak and Co. so GB can say "Hello" anytime it wants to be amazed and marvel at the economic progress achieved by NI. Ask the DUP, they'll tell you. And don't you worry. I'm not in tears. I am actually extremely happy about the whole situation. That is, Sunak's NI agreement with the EU. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 25, 2023 8:06:11 GMT
Bless.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 8:10:30 GMT
You're arguing against a point I am not making. I have never claimed that Northern Ireland is a member of the EU. What I claim is that it is IN -- i.e., part of -- the EU by virtue of the fact that it is subject to EU trade rules and regulations and is to a great extend under the jurisdiction of the ECJ. Well the rest of the UK are subject to EU trade rules (and thus ECJ jurisdiction) when we trade with the EU - does that mean that the UK is still 'IN' the EU? I missed this. ^ Rather than making silly comparisons; I suggest that you speak to the DUP and tell us how it came about that Northern Ireland is effectively still IN the EU. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 25, 2023 9:35:56 GMT
Let it go Gnome. I know you've been brought up on a diet made by Mummy and Daddy and 'no' isn't a word you're accustomed to, but you need to let it go. This topic has clearly consumed you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2023 10:58:53 GMT
Let it go Gnome. I know you've been brought up on a diet made by Mummy and Daddy and 'no' isn't a word you're accustomed to, but you need to let it go. This topic has clearly consumed you. Meh!  Feeble and defensive - there's nothing there. It's overly presumptuous and excessively introspective and emotional, it's toe curling. ^ Take a shower. Have a cup of tea. Or coffee. Or comb your hair. Then come back to me. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 25, 2023 11:19:25 GMT
Well the rest of the UK are subject to EU trade rules (and thus ECJ jurisdiction) when we trade with the EU - does that mean that the UK is still 'IN' the EU? I missed this. ^ Rather than making silly comparisons; I suggest that you speak to the DUP and tell us how it came about that Northern Ireland is effectively still IN the EU. Stamping your feet is not going to win you any arguments around here. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 25, 2023 11:46:01 GMT
I missed this. ^ Rather than making silly comparisons; I suggest that you speak to the DUP and tell us how it came about that Northern Ireland is effectively still IN the EU. Stamping your feet is not going to win you any arguments around here. Stamping his feet IS winning an argument to a spoiled brat. |
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Feeble and defensive - there's nothing there. It's overly presumptuous and excessively introspective and emotional, it's toe curling. ^ Take a shower. Have a cup of tea. Or coffee. Or comb your hair. Then come back to me.