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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 10:01:37 GMT
Meh! The opinion of people who say "would of", "should of", "could of" can not be taken seriously. Ex remainers living in the past are not taken seriously . They lost and we are now no longer in the EU. Their long and whining road back to the EU hasn’t even started. Meh! You say "should of." I have always been conscious of the fact that trading with CPTPP countries would not be as environmentally friendly as trading with the EU. You do realise that we buy a lot of goods from China . That’s a long way away . ………… Of course, I do. But do you realise that I was not making any judgement about trading with far away countries? No, you don't. I only made a statement about my awareness of the fact that trading with far away countries or a particular trade bloc would be less environmentally friendly than trading with neighbouring countries or trade blocs -- like the EU. You "should of" realised that before your opened your offing mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 10:12:46 GMT
It could happen yet not for some time and on the other hand countries like the Netherlands might vote to come out too. You just can't tell. Agreed. You can't tell. However, you are allowed to make projections, predictions or forecasts -- wild guesses, even -- and it's up to others to make a judgement on the veracity and probability of such things. My current take is that if one more wealthy and influential country were to pull out of the EU, then it would be the end of the European Union. And from that free-for-all, the original EEC 6 would reform. The concept is far too good and beneficial to be consigned to the dust bin of history.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2023 10:16:47 GMT
Definitely. Femi MKII lives on this board for no other reason. The little boy is resentful. Remember that. How can I be resentful?. I was on the winning side of the referendum. The UK no longer is in the EU. I am not constantly moaning about it. I don’t use the grammar Nazi fallacy debate technique. I have nothing to be resentful about. You on the other hand…( meaning Gnome)……😉 Sorry Buccaneer. I thought your post was from Gnome. 😳
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2023 10:20:45 GMT
Ex remainers living in the past are not taken seriously . They lost and we are now no longer in the EU. Their long and whining road back to the EU hasn’t even started. Meh! You say "should of." You do realise that we buy a lot of goods from China . That’s a long way away . ………… Of course, I do. But do you realise that I was not making any judgement about trading with far away countries? No, you don't. I only made a statement about my awareness of the fact that trading with far away countries or a particular trade bloc would be less environmentally friendly than trading with neighbouring countries or trade blocs -- like the EU. You "should of" realised that before your opened your offing mouth. You were trying to be insightful by stating the obvious. It didn’t work . You should have/ or realised that before you opened your ‘ offing ‘mouth.😁 You have nothing but bitter resentment . I like that in an ex remainer.👍
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 10:22:30 GMT
Definitely. Femi MKII lives on this board for no other reason. The little boy is resentful. Remember that. How can I be resentful?. I was on the winning side of the referendum. The UK no longer is in the EU. I am not constantly moaning about it. I don’t use the grammar Nazi fallacy debate technique. I have nothing to be resentful about. You on the other hand………😉 ^ That poster is talking about me. Ask him. He'll tell you.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2023 10:27:19 GMT
How can I be resentful?. I was on the winning side of the referendum. The UK no longer is in the EU. I am not constantly moaning about it. I don’t use the grammar Nazi fallacy debate technique. I have nothing to be resentful about. You on the other hand………😉 ^ That poster is talking about me. Ask him. He'll tell you. Lol!! You are correct ..and he is too dar…I mean Gnome . 😁 My bad…
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Post by patman post on Apr 21, 2023 10:30:39 GMT
Sensible planners should always keep an eye on possible return/realignment with the EU (and a less-likely North Atlantic Trade Association).
But it's unlikely to be anywhere near happening for a decade, so to thrive, the best has to be made of what's available and possible now...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 10:44:14 GMT
Meh! You say "should of." Of course, I do. But do you realise that I was not making any judgement about trading with far away countries? No, you don't. I only made a statement about my awareness of the fact that trading with far away countries or a particular trade bloc would be less environmentally friendly than trading with neighbouring countries or trade blocs -- like the EU. You "should of" realised that before your opened your offing mouth. You were trying to be insightful by stating the obvious. It didn’t work . You should have/ or realised that before you opened your ‘ offing ‘mouth.😁 You have nothing but bitter resentment . I like that in an ex remainer.👍 I was not trying to be insightful. I am insightful. And I was just staying within the context set by another poster, to wit: B-4: "He should be more concerned about his carbon footprint."Gnome: "I have always been conscious of the fact that trading with CPTPP countries would not be as environmentally friendly as trading with the EU."You see resentment? Nope. No resentment here. However, I see your inability to handle criticisms of and arguments against your beloved Brexit with self-composure and intelligence, preferring to criticise the messenger rather than the message.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2023 10:51:03 GMT
You were trying to be insightful by stating the obvious. It didn’t work . You should have/ or realised that before you opened your ‘ offing ‘mouth.😁 You have nothing but bitter resentment . I like that in an ex remainer.👍 I was not trying to be insightful. I am insightful. And I was just staying within the context set by another poster, to wit: B-4: "He should be more concerned about his carbon footprint."Gnome: "I have always been conscious of the fact that trading with CPTPP countries would not be as environmentally friendly as trading with the EU."You see resentment? Nope. No resentment here. However, I see your inability to handle criticisms of and arguments against your beloved Brexit with self-composure and intelligence, preferring to criticise the messenger rather than the message. Oh the resentment is obvious. I don’t have a problem with criticism of Brexit . Brexit was an event. It happened. Your problem is that you mind us stuck in a world before Brexit. When you manage to come to terms with reality then you might accept that we are in a post Brexit UK. Your mindset whines about trading with far away countries without acknowledging that we did that when we were in the EU. You do realise that the UK still trades with the EU , don’t you?
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Post by Vinny on Apr 21, 2023 11:13:34 GMT
I don't think he realises there's a free trade agreement with the EU with no tariffs and no quotas.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2023 11:17:26 GMT
I don't think he realises there's a free trade agreement with the EU with no tariffs and no quotas. Yup. The bitter ex remainers try to portray a post Brexit world where we are going to get our tomatoes from Vietnam.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 21, 2023 11:48:42 GMT
Be interesting if we do ever get to a position where rejoining is a possibility to see EU supporters arguing in favour of mandatory migrant relocation quotas being imposed on the UK.
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Post by Paulus de B on Apr 21, 2023 12:31:13 GMT
The way the man puts it makes me LOL. So, as old, unicorn hunting Brexit fundamentalists die off, the road to a Norway or Switzerland style arrangement would be paved a by new, young, fresh, open-minded, realistic, pragmatic, forward looking generation of British Europhiles? Yay! At the time, I thought that continuing EEA membership was the intention. Freedom of movement was a stumbling block, granted, but EEA membership was a reasonable starting-point for negotiating that away. The Great Remain Lie (remain-and-reform) was always a non-starter, but remain-in-the-EEA-and-reform was surely feasible. You and the boss of Ryanair could make the case more easily if you didn't demonise Brexiteers, as it's perfectly compatible with supporting Brexit. Still, thanks for classing me as "new, young, fresh, open-minded, realistic, pragmatic and forward-looking". gnome said: Meh! The opinion of people who say "would of", "should of", "could of" can not be taken seriously.
Don't be silly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2023 13:31:04 GMT
I was not trying to be insightful. I am insightful. And I was just staying within the context set by another poster, to wit: B-4: "He should be more concerned about his carbon footprint."Gnome: "I have always been conscious of the fact that trading with CPTPP countries would not be as environmentally friendly as trading with the EU."You see resentment? Nope. No resentment here. However, I see your inability to handle criticisms of and arguments against your beloved Brexit with self-composure and intelligence, preferring to criticise the messenger rather than the message. Oh the resentment is obvious. I don’t have a problem with criticism of Brexit . Brexit was an event. It happened. Your problem is that you mind us stuck in a world before Brexit. When you manage to come to terms with reality then you might accept that we are in a post Brexit UK. Your mindset whines about trading with far away countries without acknowledging that we did that when we were in the EU. You do realise that the UK still trades with the EU , don’t you? Will you stop putting out confused, irrelevant arguments? Please! I mean, just look at this ^ -- what does this have to do with the statement of fact that trading with far away countries is less environmentally friendly than trading with the EU? Nothing. That statement of fact is not a criticism of the EU or of Brexit or, indeed, of far away countries. The trouble with you and your Brexit fundamentalist friends is that you're such snowflakes when it comes to your beloved Brexit that you all have a meltdown, either individually or collectively, at the slightest but factual criticism of your creation. You can't handle the truth about Brexit so you turn ultra-defensive, invent things, redirect or deviate from the discussion, blah, blah, blah and when someone calls you out, you lose confidence and start running around hitting the critic rather than the critique.
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Post by Bentley on Apr 21, 2023 13:45:20 GMT
Oh the resentment is obvious. I don’t have a problem with criticism of Brexit . Brexit was an event. It happened. Your problem is that you mind us stuck in a world before Brexit. When you manage to come to terms with reality then you might accept that we are in a post Brexit UK. Your mindset whines about trading with far away countries without acknowledging that we did that when we were in the EU. You do realise that the UK still trades with the EU , don’t you? Will you stop putting out confused, irrelevant arguments? Please! I mean, just look at this ^ -- what does this have to do with the statement of fact that trading with far away countries is less environmentally friendly than trading with the EU? Nothing. That statement of fact is not a criticism of the EU or of Brexit or, indeed, of far away countries. The trouble with you and your Brexit fundamentalist friends is that you're such snowflakes when it comes to your beloved Brexit that you all have a meltdown, either individually or collectively, at the slightest but factual criticism of your creation. You can't handle the truth about Brexit so you turn ultra-defensive, invent things, redirect or deviate from the discussion, blah, blah, blah and when someone calls you out, you lose confidence and start running around hitting the critic rather than the critique. You blame me for putting out confused , irrelevant arguments then post confused waffle. You post bitter nonsense about ‘ beloved Brexit ‘ because YOU hate it. Brexit was an event, it happened, it can’t be beloved, it’s a fact . Now the ex remainers have a pre Brexit mindset and can’t accept that they lost. That’s why you posted a comment about trading with far away countries without realising that we buy so much from China and still trade with the EU. Your last sentence is pure projection and quite laughable. You lost, we are out if the EU. Deal with it . Meanwhile …..😂😂😂
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