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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 3:25:49 GMT
I feel our freedom to express ourselves has got to the same state as the former East Germany.......As usual, academics are the source of all this nonsense. It was the police college that invented non-crime hate incidents. Instead of applying common sense and completely abandoning the practice they've issued further guidelines. Poor old hapless plod has been left to interpret it.
Suella Braverman blasts police force for sending FIVE officers to seize collection of golliwog dolls from family pub as Home Office source warns they 'shouldn't be involved in this nonsense' Dolls at Essex pub seized because their presence was a suspected 'hate crime' Suella Braverman is said to have been furious about the police's approach
The Home Secretary has scolded a police force for sending five officers to a family-owned pub to seize a collection of golliwog dolls, it was revealed yesterday.
An anonymous complaint was made about the White Hart Inn in Grays, Essex, and 15 dolls were seized because their presence was a suspected 'hate crime'.
Suella Braverman is said to have been furious about the approach, which also saw police question pub owner Benice Ryley, and has told Essex Police that bosses should be focusing on catching real criminals rather than seizing toys.
Benice Ryley, 61, was quizzed by six officers after police received an anonymous complaint
about the golliwog display at The White Hart Inn in Grays, Essex
The College of Policing issued updated guidance last month stating that non-crime hate incidents should not be recorded where there is no basis to conclude that an incident was motivated by hostility.
The guidance also states: 'Wherever possible, freedom of speech should be prioritised.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 10, 2023 4:04:12 GMT
All this will do is make people more determined than ever to buy, source, access a Gollywog, ffs I cant believe this is 21st century UK.
Edit: The woke wanker who made the complaint should not be allowed anonymity, all this achieves is more woke wankers making more anonymous woke complaints. If these people are so offended by Gollywogs, they should stand up for their principles, such as they are, and be counted, rather than hiding behind anonymity.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 5:01:41 GMT
All this will do is make people more determined than ever to buy, source, access a Gollywog, ffs I cant believe this is 21st century UK. Edit: The woke wanker who made the complaint should not be allowed anonymity, all this achieves is more woke wankers making more anonymous woke complaints. If these people are so offended by Gollywogs, they should stand up for their principles, such as they are, and be counted, rather than hiding behind anonymity. Plod is supposed to be short on manpower mate but 5 of em turned up..... I wonder if the gollywogs are being held in safe confinement?
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 10, 2023 5:15:57 GMT
All this will do is make people more determined than ever to buy, source, access a Gollywog, ffs I cant believe this is 21st century UK. Edit: The woke wanker who made the complaint should not be allowed anonymity, all this achieves is more woke wankers making more anonymous woke complaints. If these people are so offended by Gollywogs, they should stand up for their principles, such as they are, and be counted, rather than hiding behind anonymity. Plod is supposed to be short on manpower mate but 5 of em turned up..... I wonder if the gollywogs are being held in safe confinement? Jonksy, the sale of Golliwogs various on ebay is thriving for one reason, outraged lefties say they should be banned. The thick left don't seem to have grasped the fact that as soon as something is banned, it becomes very collectable. Virtue signalling pillocks.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 5:21:03 GMT
Plod is supposed to be short on manpower mate but 5 of em turned up..... I wonder if the gollywogs are being held in safe confinement? Jonksy, the sale of Golliwogs various on ebay is thriving for one reason, outraged lefties say they should be banned. The thick left don't seem to have grasped the fact that as soon as something is banned, it becomes very collectable. Virtue signalling pillocks. The production of Golliwogs is about to beome he new growth industry, and long may it prosper......Frigging virtue signallers. I noted the pub was called the WHITE heart. Imagine the dismay that would cause the bastards if it were the BLACK heart..
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 10, 2023 5:39:41 GMT
Jonksy, the sale of Golliwogs various on ebay is thriving for one reason, outraged lefties say they should be banned. The thick left don't seem to have grasped the fact that as soon as something is banned, it becomes very collectable. Virtue signalling pillocks. The production of Golliwogs is about to beome he new growth industry, and long may it prosper......Frigging virtue signallers. I noted the pub was called the WHITE heart. Imagine the dismay that would cause the bastards if it were the BLACK heart.. There was a Banks's pub in Bridgnorth called the 'Blackboy', I believe it's still there, who used to sell the best pint of Banks's bitter you ever tasted.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 5:47:04 GMT
The production of Golliwogs is about to beome he new growth industry, and long may it prosper......Frigging virtue signallers. I noted the pub was called the WHITE heart. Imagine the dismay that would cause the bastards if it were the BLACK heart.. There was a Banks's pub in Bridgnorth called the 'Blackboy', I believe it's still there, who used to sell the best pint of Banks's bitter you ever tasted. Yet more lefty wokery mate....
Judge asks jurors if being called 'ladies and gentlemen' upsets them.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 10, 2023 8:13:58 GMT
You're not going to win with these mindset people, they moan because Barbie and Ken are white, they moan because there are no black dolls or teddies, now here they are calling a black teddy racist ... FFS
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 8:32:59 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 9:16:22 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be. Successive governments stopped representing the British people years ago. For a long time we have been a democracy in name only.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 10, 2023 9:21:36 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be. Are you saying that caricatures must be banned. If I recall many Labour members were in support of a giant mural caricature of bankers that accentuated their Jewishness through physical representation. It seems closet racists are everywhere but only some are unacceptable.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 10, 2023 9:24:40 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be. Yes it's quite obvious the 'golliwogg' was meant to be racist .....
Florence Kate Upton
Upton began to sketch out ideas for a children's book, using "penny wooden" dolls as her models. However, without a central character on which to hang the tale, progress came to a standstill. Her aunt, Kate Hudson, found a blackface minstrel toy in her attic that had belonged to the Upton children, left behind from an earlier visit. This toy, which she named "Golliwogg", provided inspiration, and the first story was completed in 1894.
...Nothing at all racist about the creation of a children's book character.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 9:26:43 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be. I thought they were toys designed for black children in an era when only white dolls were available.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 9:28:30 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be. Shut up and enjoy your Robertsons jam FFS
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Post by see2 on Apr 10, 2023 10:13:56 GMT
I feel our freedom to express ourselves has got to the same state as the former East Germany.......As usual, academics are the source of all this nonsense. It was the police college that invented non-crime hate incidents. Instead of applying common sense and completely abandoning the practice they've issued further guidelines. Poor old hapless plod has been left to interpret it.
Suella Braverman blasts police force for sending FIVE officers to seize collection of golliwog dolls from family pub as Home Office source warns they 'shouldn't be involved in this nonsense' Dolls at Essex pub seized because their presence was a suspected 'hate crime' Suella Braverman is said to have been furious about the police's approach
The Home Secretary has scolded a police force for sending five officers to a family-owned pub to seize a collection of golliwog dolls, it was revealed yesterday.
An anonymous complaint was made about the White Hart Inn in Grays, Essex, and 15 dolls were seized because their presence was a suspected 'hate crime'.
Suella Braverman is said to have been furious about the approach, which also saw police question pub owner Benice Ryley, and has told Essex Police that bosses should be focusing on catching real criminals rather than seizing toys.
Benice Ryley, 61, was quizzed by six officers after police received an anonymous complaint
about the golliwog display at The White Hart Inn in Grays, Essex
The College of Policing issued updated guidance last month stating that non-crime hate incidents should not be recorded where there is no basis to conclude that an incident was motivated by hostility.
The guidance also states: 'Wherever possible, freedom of speech should be prioritised.
"More plod lefty wokery." --- No More right-wing "nonsense wokery". The problem does not lay with the doll or the name Golliwog, it lays with the usual right-wing dickheads, maybe like some of those who attacked taking the knee, in using the term wog (later softening to Western oriental Gentleman, but thought to have arisen from the name Gollywog) and or Gollywog as a derogative term aimed at Black people. They are the people who gave the use of the doll or its name, as being a racist gesture. To display a shelf full of these dolls could be described as: There is nothing wrong with these dolls, I like them and I mean no harm. This is a free country I can display them if I want to. Up yours, I like them, 'we all know what they mean' wink wink. Or just bad taste.
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