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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 10, 2023 15:28:27 GMT
The fact five officers were called to remove some soft toys from a pub, is in itself is utterly ridiculous. What a waste of taxpayers money that exercise was. This is the actual point not whether or not someone has found anything offensive not to mention how many hours of paperwork have been undertaken before plod turned up with the warrant to sieze the offending Golly's This should have been nipped in the bud years ago when the first idiot associated the doll as a racist symbol . ''No its not go away'' should have been the answer and that hopfully would have been that . sadly, the force has been infiltrated by a collection of rainbow flag wavers for whom thieftaking takes second place to wokery. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 10, 2023 17:38:53 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be.
Don't be a complete c*nt, shrieky.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 10, 2023 17:39:54 GMT
The fact five officers were called to remove some soft toys from a pub, is in itself is utterly ridiculous. What a waste of taxpayers money that exercise was. Perhaps Essex Police should be disbanded - they clearly have no real crime to deal with. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 10, 2023 18:02:26 GMT
The fact five officers were called to remove some soft toys from a pub, is in itself is utterly ridiculous. What a waste of taxpayers money that exercise was. Perhaps Essex Police should be disbanded - they clearly have no real crime to deal with.None that the public want....
The Essex Murders: Private investigators say new evidence 'points to different killer' in 1995 Range Rover shooting
Essex Police say the triple murder of Patrick Tate, Tony Tucker and Craig Rolfe in 1995 has been "exhaustively examined" over the years. But private investigators believe the two men convicted did not carry out the gangland shooting - and have met others who claim they were involved.
Not like their brochure are they?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 18:23:58 GMT
I c an see all you fools predictably foaming at the mouth in defence of golliwogs. But the golliwog itself is an obvious racist caricature - it is instantly obvious just by looking at one - and the motives of anyone who plasters their business with them must be suspect. Those defending golliwogs are mostly closet racists themselves, as you lot in this thread so far appear to be.
Don't be a complete c*nt, shrieky.
As far as winning counter-arguments go, that is utterly unpersuasive, calling people names like a ten your old boy thinking it makes you look clever, without actually responding with any cogent points of your own. Have you no idea what a knob this makes you look? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 18:27:01 GMT
This is the actual point not whether or not someone has found anything offensive not to mention how many hours of paperwork have been undertaken before plod turned up with the warrant to sieze the offending Golly's This should have been nipped in the bud years ago when the first idiot associated the doll as a racist symbol . ''No its not go away'' should have been the answer and that hopfully would have been that . sadly, the force has been infiltrated by a collection of rainbow flag wavers for whom thieftaking takes second place to wokery. Another one obsessed, lol. You can post intelligently sometimes and then you go and post utter drivel such as that, getting down and dirty with such intellectual giants as Jonksy, who will no doubt be along to like your silly post before long. Oh, he already has, LOL |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 10, 2023 18:32:33 GMT
Don't be a complete c*nt, shrieky.
As far as winning counter-arguments go, that is utterly unpersuasive, calling people names like a ten your old boy thinking it makes you look clever, without actually responding with any cogent points of your own. Have you no idea what a knob this makes you look?
Says the man who shrieks "Racist" in response to anything and everything that he dislikes. Have you no idea what a knob this makes you look?
Sometimes "Don't be a c*nt" is the kindest advice anyone can offer someone like you.
So don't be a c*nt, Shrieky.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 10, 2023 19:06:12 GMT
Yes it's quite obvious the 'golliwogg' was meant to be racist .....
Florence Kate Upton
Upton began to sketch out ideas for a children's book, using "penny wooden" dolls as her models. However, without a central character on which to hang the tale, progress came to a standstill. Her aunt, Kate Hudson, found a blackface minstrel toy in her attic that had belonged to the Upton children, left behind from an earlier visit. This toy, which she named "Golliwogg", provided inspiration, and the first story was completed in 1894.
...Nothing at all racist about the creation of a children's book character.
Written at a time when racist assumptions were the norm. Even the use of the word "wog" in the name golliwog is instantly and obviously suggestive of racist language. If I can ask some serious questions. What exactly is a racist assumption? What is racist language? Why do you find both so unacceptable? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 19:40:35 GMT
As far as winning counter-arguments go, that is utterly unpersuasive, calling people names like a ten your old boy thinking it makes you look clever, without actually responding with any cogent points of your own. Have you no idea what a knob this makes you look?
Says the man who shrieks "Racist" in response to anything and everything that he dislikes. Have you no idea what a knob this makes you look?
Sometimes "Don't be a c*nt" is the kindest advice anyone can offer someone like you.
So don't be a c*nt, Shrieky.
Only in your imagination. Though I will call a spade a spade when it does come to actual racists. None of which is altered by name calling, the last refuge of any clown without a better argument |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2023 19:48:45 GMT
Written at a time when racist assumptions were the norm. Even the use of the word "wog" in the name golliwog is instantly and obviously suggestive of racist language. If I can ask some serious questions. What exactly is a racist assumption? What is racist language? Why do you find both so unacceptable? Racist assumptions are assumptions based on racist criteria. Most notably was the widespread assumption of white superiority at the time golliwogs first appeared, and the accompanying assumption that blacks were racially inferior and in some measure a lower form of humanity. Things I suspect some of you around here to still believe in. Racist language is obvious, eg the n word to refer to blacks or calling them wogs or suchlike. If you are so incapable of understanding this that you need it explained to you, then you must truly be rather thick. |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 10, 2023 20:27:59 GMT
If I can ask some serious questions. What exactly is a racist assumption? What is racist language? Why do you find both so unacceptable? Racist assumptions are assumptions based on racist criteria. Most notably was the widespread assumption of white superiority at the time golliwogs first appeared, and the accompanying assumption that blacks were racially inferior and in some measure a lower form of humanity. Things I suspect some of you around here to still believe in. Racist language is obvious, eg the n word to refer to blacks or calling them wogs or suchlike. If you are so incapable of understanding this that you need it explained to you, then you must truly be rather thick. You are another piece of rabble without a cause. Gollywogs were made as kids toys and kids treated them as such, it is people like you who have made them an object of racism. |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 10, 2023 20:31:04 GMT
If I can ask some serious questions. What exactly is a racist assumption? What is racist language? Why do you find both so unacceptable? Racist assumptions are assumptions based on racist criteria. Most notably was the widespread assumption of white superiority at the time golliwogs first appeared, and the accompanying assumption that blacks were racially inferior and in some measure a lower form of humanity. Things I suspect some of you around here to still believe in. Racist language is obvious, eg the n word to refer to blacks or calling them wogs or suchlike. If you are so incapable of understanding this that you need it explained to you, then you must truly be rather thick. I would make the assumption that the assumption of a rag doll that has its origins in Egypt is racist is a false one and has no merit ,Some people assume too much.. In fact I would go as far as saying those who assume to find a connection between a rag doll and racial groups are in fact race baiters and are the racists themselves . |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 10, 2023 20:41:49 GMT
If I can ask some serious questions. What exactly is a racist assumption? What is racist language? Why do you find both so unacceptable? Racist assumptions are assumptions based on racist criteria. Most notably was the widespread assumption of white superiority at the time golliwogs first appeared, and the accompanying assumption that blacks were racially inferior and in some measure a lower form of humanity. Things I suspect some of you around here to still believe in. Racist language is obvious, eg the n word to refer to blacks or calling them wogs or suchlike. If you are so incapable of understanding this that you need it explained to you, then you must truly be rather thick. So 'white privilege' is a racist assumption. 'White guilt' is a racist assumption. White fragility is a racist assumption. These assumptions seem to be in common use so we are already in the zone of it depends upon which race the assumption is being made. These are not assumptions of any level of inferiority but they do imbue all white people with the assumed attribute. Cultural appropriation complaints are making assumptions that a person cannot adopt a specific cultural activity due to the colour of their skin. As regards racist language it seems OK for black people to say YT for whitey as evidenced by Zara Sultana; 'killing whitey' was dismissed as a joke by the BBC and do we really want to discuss rap music and the crackers and chop-sueys. I understand what you are saying but I abhor the hypocrisy that comes with it as white people will be targeted if they are 'racist' yet others are 'tolerated'. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 10, 2023 20:49:52 GMT
...In fact I would go as far as saying those who assume to find a connection between a rag doll and racial groups are in fact race baiters and are the racists themselves. Indeed. If someone says or does something in all innocence and someone else perceives it as racist, which one is the actual racist? I'll give a real life example: In one of my workplaces someone was challenged for describing a well-meaning colleague as a "Good egg". This was challenged on the basis that in rhyming slang, "Egg and spoon" rhymes with "Coon". Well that was a new one on me, I have to say. (I mean, who the hell speaks rhyming slang these days - assuming that was even true back in the day?). Clearly, our faux-offended friend had to dig deep for that racial epithet. Raising the question of who actually had the racist thought? And I suggest that it wasn't the innocent describing their chum as a "Good egg". Just like those lefty racists were up in arms when one of their own, Danny Baker, described the Royal family as "Performing monkeys". He's been doing that same tired old schtick for years, with the leftard's approval, but now one of the royals is mixed race and suddenly Baker's a racist. Well, he is if you conflate black people with monkeys - which many on the left clearly do. The likes of Shrieky doth protest too much - because they are actually the racists. They're just too dim to realise it. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 10, 2023 21:06:41 GMT
Only in your imagination. Though I will call a spade a spade when it does come to actual racists. None of which is altered by name calling, the last refuge of any clown without a better argument Ahem: ...You have been a knob jockey in doing this...  |
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