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Post by borchester on Apr 16, 2023 11:56:52 GMT
If Sunak ditches Braverman I think it might be quite close, she is just vile. Starmer is winning by default at the moment, but his sums don't add up. He will have to raise taxes for everybody to make a significant change to public services. If inflation and interest rates are down come next election, then people might just vote for the status quo rather than risk it. I wish politicians could make a case for funding better public services by increasing taxation, but you know the British public, they hate taxes. They want Nordic levels of public services, on American levels of taxation.
Perhaps we wouldnt hate taxes so much if experience over the decades had not shown that governments (of all hues) simply waste most of the tax they collect. I see the latest wheeze is to give (on the NHS) free vapes to expectant mothers who smoke - so these women can afford £11 for 20 Bensons but are unable to spend a fiver for a vape. There is a good article in todays Telegraph about why Texas is so economically successful - they don't levy income tax, capital gains or corporation tax and run a balanced budget. Most importantly, the State Government only sits every other year and then for just 140 days so the politicians are not looking to introduce a different scheme every week to get their name in the papers. Another reason might be that one sixth of the population of Texas are migrants. I don't know if that was mentioned in the article but it would be interesting to see the Telegraph's readership's take on the matter |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2023 12:17:17 GMT
In 1996 the lowest lead for the opposition Labour Party was 12 points by ICM for The Guardian, with some polls showing 30+ point leads for Labour, and the average of around 20 points.
At no time in 1996 or 1997 did any poll show a Conservative lead, and we are now in the same territory with probably 18 months to go before the general election.
So what is on the horizon ?
Firstly, local elections in a couple of weeks time, and its highly likely that the Conservatives are going to do pretty badly, possibly a disaster, with the Tories losing both seats and councils.
As things currently stand, with 30+ Tory MPs standing down at the next election, with the polls looking glum, with very bad local election results coming up, and with the economy performing very badly. What is the Parliamentary Conservative Party going to do next. ?
Is there going to be panic setting in ?
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Post by Steve on Apr 16, 2023 19:58:21 GMT
If Sunak ditches Braverman I think it might be quite close, she is just vile. Starmer is winning by default at the moment, but his sums don't add up. He will have to raise taxes for everybody to make a significant change to public services. If inflation and interest rates are down come next election, then people might just vote for the status quo rather than risk it. I wish politicians could make a case for funding better public services by increasing taxation, but you know the British public, they hate taxes. They want Nordic levels of public services, on American levels of taxation.
Perhaps we wouldnt hate taxes so much if experience over the decades had not shown that governments (of all hues) simply waste most of the tax they collect. I see the latest wheeze is to give (on the NHS) free vapes to expectant mothers who smoke - so these women can afford £11 for 20 Bensons but are unable to spend a fiver for a vape. There is a good article in todays Telegraph about why Texas is so economically successful - they don't levy income tax, capital gains or corporation tax and run a balanced budget. Most importantly, the State Government only sits every other year and then for just 140 days so the politicians are not looking to introduce a different scheme every week to get their name in the papers. That would be typical DT misleading shite then Texas has top quartile rates of state and av Local Sales tax rates to make up for the gap from that zero state income tax. It also has massive oil and gas production which makes a huge impact. |
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Post by borchester on Apr 17, 2023 16:50:11 GMT
And for the period 29 March 2023 - 13 April 2023...
Labour 44.7.% - 0.3 %
Conservatives 28.7 % +0.2 %
Lib Dems 9.8% +0.1 %
Reform 5.9% No change
Green 4.7% No Change
SNP 3.3% +0.1%
So it looks as the electorate are not as bothered by by Tory sleaze as the brothers and sisters had hoped as the Labour vote has fallen and the Conservative risen. The Lib Dems are still picking up the Oh sod it vote, the SNP have decided to forgive Pete Murrell and everyone else is sitting on their hands and waiting for the shoe to drop
And for period 2 April 2023 to 14 April 2023.. Labour 44.8.% +0.1 % Conservatives 28.1 - 0.6 % Lib Dems 9.8% No Change Reform 6.2% + 0.3% Green 5.0% + 0.3% SNP 3.6% +0.3% So it looks as thought the electorate are bothered by by Tory sleaze after all and have given the Conservatives a kicking and Labour a pat on the back, much to the benefit of Reform, the Greens and the SNP, all of whom have broadened their bottoms. And for period 5 April 2023 to 16 April 2023.. Labour 44.3.% - 0.5 % Conservatives 28.8 + 0.7 % Lib Dems 9.7% - 0.1% Reform 6.1% - 0.1% Green 5.2% + 0.2% SNP 3.3% - 0.3%
looks like Labour's ungallant attack on Mrs Sunak has backfired and everyone else losing except for the Greens
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