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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 6, 2023 9:20:21 GMT
The BBC confronts Britain’s housing crisis in a Panorama investigation, focusing on the Bampton Estate in South London. Once owned by the local (Lewisham) council the estate is now a mix of private owners and housing association stock. According to the BBC narrative the root and indeed sole cause of the crisis as far as Bampton is concerned, as well as most other social housing in England, is the ‘right to buy’ policy introduced by Margaret Thatcher in the early 80s. There was no mention of the dramatic increase in the population of London since the 1980s, even though most of the residents featured in the programme were plainly of migration backgound. The programme did highlight how buy-to-let and lack of official oversight has allowed ‘slum landlords’ to re-enter the picture after being removed by the slum clearance schemes of the 60s and 70s. Panorama cornered one such creature after learning he controlled at least four properties on the estate, each of which consisted of a small 70s-era terrace house subdivided into six ‘bed-sits’. Rents of over £900 pcm are apparently covered by housing benefit, giving a rental income of around a quarter million for the four properties. All-in-all a less than completely honest effort on Auntie’s part. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001kk0h/panorama-whats-gone-wrong-with-our-housing |
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Post by Orac on Apr 6, 2023 9:38:31 GMT
The BBC is mostly staffed by people who benefit from the scarcity of housing, so you should count yourself lucky housing is even mentioned as a social problem. I suppose an exception is made if it involves having a go at 'Thatch'
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 10:12:57 GMT
The BBC confronts Britain’s housing crisis in a Panorama investigation, focusing on the Bampton Estate in South London. Once owned by the local (Lewisham) council the estate is now a mix of private owners and housing association stock. According to the BBC narrative the root and indeed sole cause of the crisis as far as Bampton is concerned, as well as most other social housing in England, is the ‘right to buy’ policy introduced by Margaret Thatcher in the early 80s. There was no mention of the dramatic increase in the population of London since the 1980s, even though most of the residents featured in the programme were plainly of migration backgound. The programme did highlight how buy-to-let and lack of official oversight has allowed ‘slum landlords’ to re-enter the picture after being removed by the slum clearance schemes of the 60s and 70s. Panorama cornered one such creature after learning he controlled at least four properties on the estate, each of which consisted of a small 70s-era terrace house subdivided into six ‘bed-sits’. Rents of over £900 pcm are apparently covered by housing benefit, giving a rental income of around a quarter million for the four properties. All-in-all a less than completely honest effort on Auntie’s part. www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m001kk0h/panorama-whats-gone-wrong-with-our-housing....so too many people chasing to few houses...sucs huh... |
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 6, 2023 10:34:03 GMT
When right to buy was introduced in 1980 the population of London was 6.8 million. It is now around 9.6 million.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 6, 2023 10:45:20 GMT
What killed social housing in the UK was the 1977 Housing Act.
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 11:35:57 GMT
...coupled with the fact that there are a gazzilion students everywhere needing accomodation...
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 7, 2023 7:01:25 GMT
I always thought that Thatcher's "right to buy" initiative was a blatant piece of Gerrymandering and would end badly. But I think that the BBC blaming the landlords is a bum rap. If landlords are subdividing even tiny houses into "multiple occupancy" it's simply a response to the fact that there are too many people chasing too few houses. And the reason for that is that there have been completely unsustainable levels of immigration for years. This is obvious to anyone with a brain cell but the BBC NEVER mentions it.
They had a discussion on this subject on Politics Live a few days ago, yet no one mentioned immigration. It's become a taboo subject among the Leftie media. Yet the UK is undergoing a massive invasion of illegal immigrants - and invasion is the right word. Italy is now getting about 10,000 illegal boat migrants a month - and of course these people don't stay in Italy. The Italians give them a one way ticket to France and they make their way (courtesy of Schengen) to Calais and from there they eventually get to the UK.
So we're getting the lot basically. And they're now coming from all over Africa and the East - Turkey, Libya etc etc. And of course the numbers are rapidly going up as the people smuggling mafia become more organised. I live in the West Country and for some time this has been an oasis where these people are few and far between, but recently I'm hearing lots of people wandering around even smallish towns speaking foreign languages. It used to be confined to places like Exeter and Plymouth. No more.
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 7, 2023 8:41:09 GMT
Illegal migrants are certainly in the spotlight at the moment, but in terms of raw numbers it is not they who are driving the population explosion. Although a few hundred are arriving by small boats and other clandestine means each day the numbers arriving legally are an order of magnitude greater.
Most people are blissfully unaware of the scale and pace of the demographic transformation that is underway and seem to want to blame it all upon 'illegals'.
However in the twenty years to 2021 the population of England and Wales increased by 7.6 million, all of whom have to be fed, accommodated and otherwise catered for. Over the same period the 'white British' population declined by 1.1 million, so the population is now 8.7 million greater than it would have been had there been no immigration.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 7, 2023 8:48:51 GMT
I always thought that Thatcher's "right to buy" initiative was a blatant piece of Gerrymandering and would end badly. But I think that the BBC blaming the landlords is a bum rap. If landlords are subdividing even tiny houses into "multiple occupancy" it's simply a response to the fact that there are too many people chasing too few houses. And the reason for that is that there have been completely unsustainable levels of immigration for years. This is obvious to anyone with a brain cell but the BBC NEVER mentions it. They had a discussion on this subject on Politics Live a few days ago, yet no one mentioned immigration. It's become a taboo subject among the Leftie media. Yet the UK is undergoing a massive invasion of illegal immigrants - and invasion is the right word. Italy is now getting about 10,000 illegal boat migrants a month - and of course these people don't stay in Italy. The Italians give them a one way ticket to France and they make their way (courtesy of Schengen) to Calais and from there they eventually get to the UK. So we're getting the lot basically. And they're now coming from all over Africa and the East - Turkey, Libya etc etc. And of course the numbers are rapidly going up as the people smuggling mafia become more organised. I live in the West Country and for some time this has been an oasis where these people are few and far between, but recently I'm hearing lots of people wandering around even smallish towns speaking foreign languages. It used to be confined to places like Exeter and Plymouth. No more. The comment 'Find themselves strangers in their own land' was true in 1968 for only a small portion of the country. Now it is far and wide and can only be deliberate as the power to stop it is there if they so choose. They choose not to. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 7, 2023 9:04:43 GMT
The present government's immigration policy is exactly what was promised during the Vote Leave campaign - a 'level playing field' open to anyone from anywhere in the world.
We can't say we weren't told what would happen.
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 7, 2023 12:33:19 GMT
Illegal migrants are certainly in the spotlight at the moment, but in terms of raw numbers it is not they who are driving the population explosion. Although a few hundred are arriving by small boats and other clandestine means each day the numbers arriving legally are an order of magnitude greater. I'm not sure it's "an order of magnitude greater", but it's certainly greater, But I'm less bothered about legal immigration because at least the govt is meant to be in control of that, so in theory they're people we need. Of course that's almost certainly not true, but at least we the govt can, in theory, remedy the situation if they want. The problem with the illegals is that we don't know who they are, whom we don't need and many of whom are criminals or terrorists. A large number are muslims who are trouble makers. |
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 7, 2023 13:26:40 GMT
Illegal's are insignificant when you compare them to the 6 million EU nationals that flooded in.
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 7, 2023 13:31:57 GMT
Again, as a great man once said, 'numbers are of the essence'.
Leaving aside the troublesome nature of some immigrants for the moment, whether legal or illegal, it's certainly true that it's the numbers which create the most direct effect on infrastructure such as housing and public services generally.
That being the case legal migration is, as noted above, at least an order of magnitude more problematic than illegal especially in terms of demand for housing (and of course much other infrastructure and resources generally).
The government's own figures demonstrate the truth of this. In the year ending 31.12.22 legal immigration for work, study or family purposes amounted to 1,193,000. In addition almost 374,000 claims for protection were granted from asylum seekers, Afghans seeking resettlement, Ukrainians and Hong Kong residents. This brings legal immigration for 2022 to over 1.5 million.
Illegal migration is not as easy to calculate, but if we assume that the 89,000 claims for asylum in 2022 are all 'illegal' then it is clear that legal >> illegal (by an order of magnitude or more).
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 7, 2023 13:34:59 GMT
Illegal's are insignificant when you compare them to the 6 million EU nationals that flooded in. Several million of them seem to have flooded out again by the time of the census. If memory serves the population of EU origin was counted as 3.6 million.
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Post by bancroft on Apr 7, 2023 15:15:24 GMT
As Dan points out numbers are important.
I think we are becoming a bolt-hole for all those fleeing foreign lands with a bit of money though cannot find any immigration info on this.
The illegals do act as a smoke screen on the numbers yet they turn up with the begging bowl and often get dumped in already congested areas.
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