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Post by Pacifico on Apr 3, 2023 21:32:27 GMT
Eh? - you claim that Nationalisation was necessary, but if you don't know what industries were Nationalised how can you determine that Nationalisation was necessary? You have finally tied yourself in knots, ^^^ your post is the epitome of desperate stupidity. I tend to agree with you. Trying to decipher your lunatic posts is an exercise in stupidity. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 3, 2023 21:37:31 GMT
But with all the others they did not want to know and even if just some of them were the ones controlling government money you would have been out of luck. The returns on capital is the very lifeblood of venture capitalism. Risk is the nature of the game but they have to be operating in a market that is both well regulated but free to take risks. If you are seeking investment what are the right reasons other than eventual profitability? Having an excellent product that will never make money is really a no goer unless of course it has a benefit to mankind then perhaps, like some others, you could forego all future profits and make a present to mankind. Of course you need a return on investment, if only it was as simple as that. I am always staggered by how little the average man knows about business. Is it? - what are you basing this claim on?. The latest PMI survey shows that we are doing so-so - and OK I know that PMI is not a measure of investment. But it is a measure of business sentiment which is what investment is based on.  |
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Post by Toreador on Apr 4, 2023 6:32:52 GMT
I know that but You should check under which political party it was planned. As a for instance, Gresham Tower was erected under a Tory government but passed by planning and building control during that man Wilson's tenure, just like dozens more. , so not like "dozens more"  . A folly would have been a better classification. |
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Post by Steve on Apr 4, 2023 9:44:20 GMT
If its all working why is investment in the UK so poor. Of course you need a return on investment, if only it was as simple as that. I am always staggered by how little the average man knows about business. Is it? - what are you basing this claim on?. The latest PMI survey shows that we are doing so-so - and OK I know that PMI is not a measure of investment. But it is a measure of business sentiment which is what investment is based on. Yes PMI and investment are somewhat related but as you say that's not encouraging and this more specific one is damming  From www.economicsobservatory.com/how-has-brexit-affected-business-investment-in-the-ukAnd especially so looking at when the biggest relative fall is after the uncertainty was ended and we had definitely left. |
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Post by see2 on Apr 4, 2023 10:23:13 GMT
You have finally tied yourself in knots, ^^^ your post is the epitome of desperate stupidity. I tend to agree with you. Trying to decipher your lunatic posts is an exercise in stupidity. Your previous post that I criticised is ridiculous, maybe you should take another look at it before projecting your stupidity onto me. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 4, 2023 11:13:02 GMT
I tend to agree with you. Trying to decipher your lunatic posts is an exercise in stupidity. Your previous post that I criticised is ridiculous, maybe you should take another look at it before projecting your stupidity onto me. I dont need to project stupidity on to you - you have far too much of it already. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 4, 2023 18:19:07 GMT
If its all working why is investment in the UK so poor. Of course you need a return on investment, if only it was as simple as that. I am always staggered by how little the average man knows about business. Is it? - what are you basing this claim on?. The latest PMI survey shows that we are doing so-so - and OK I know that PMI is not a measure of investment. But it is a measure of business sentiment which is what investment is based on. Thank you for your sensible reply. But I would have to argue that PMI is from existing business in this country and by definition excludes those who did not achieve investment. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 4, 2023 19:45:38 GMT
'Tax breaks' get mostly eaten up by the bureaucrats and tax lawyers - just reduce taxation. Please don't talk rubbish if you don't know something. What i'm saying is correct - reduce taxation. You seem to have an silly fixation on creating a state run economy and rather puffed up image of your own expertise. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 4, 2023 20:23:01 GMT
Please don't talk rubbish if you don't know something. What i'm saying is correct - reduce taxation. You seem to have an silly fixation on creating a state run economy and rather puffed up image of your own expertise. What you are saying now has nothing to do with what you said. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 5, 2023 6:46:26 GMT
What i'm saying is correct - reduce taxation. You seem to have an silly fixation on creating a state run economy and rather puffed up image of your own expertise. What you are saying now has nothing to do with what you said. Mag said earlier in the same conversation - "just reduce taxation." |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 5, 2023 21:01:18 GMT
What you are saying now has nothing to do with what you said. Mag said earlier in the same conversation - "just reduce taxation." What I responded to was. "'Tax breaks' get mostly eaten up by the bureaucrats and tax lawyers" |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 5, 2023 21:06:56 GMT
Mag said earlier in the same conversation - "just reduce taxation." What I responded to was. "'Tax breaks' get mostly eaten up by the bureaucrats and tax lawyers" Not sure your prescription of increasing taxation is working that well to increase investment.. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 6, 2023 5:36:02 GMT
What I responded to was. "'Tax breaks' get mostly eaten up by the bureaucrats and tax lawyers" Not sure your prescription of increasing taxation is working that well to increase investment.. I wasn't suggesting a tax increase to increase investment. Don't know where you got that from. |
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Post by Orac on Apr 6, 2023 7:58:22 GMT
Mag said earlier in the same conversation - "just reduce taxation." What I responded to was. "'Tax breaks' get mostly eaten up by the bureaucrats and tax lawyers" I know you broadly don't understand economics, but i'm not interested in giving you argumentative lessons on how reality works. My main point is reduce taxes |
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Post by Orac on Apr 6, 2023 8:00:57 GMT
I wasn't suggesting a tax increase to increase investment. Don't know where you got that from. Surely if lowering taxes produces no advantage, raising them must produce no disadvantage? |
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