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Post by Steve on Apr 1, 2023 10:41:56 GMT
It has always been the case that the greater the distance a product has to travel, the greater the travel costs involved and the higher the end price has to be to make it economically viable. It therefore does not really make economic sense to diminish trade with our nearest neighbours whilst attempting to replace it with trade from the other side of the globe. Little wonder that we have higher inflation than nearly every other western economy. look to the future - who is it best to tie yourself to?, a shrinking market or an expanding one?  If you care about UK jobs and UK people then the one that doesn't have some of the lowest labour costs in its member countries |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 10:42:58 GMT
It has always been the case that the greater the distance a product has to travel, the greater the travel costs involved and the higher the end price has to be to make it economically viable. It therefore does not really make economic sense to diminish trade with our nearest neighbours whilst attempting to replace it with trade from the other side of the globe. Little wonder that we have higher inflation than nearly every other western economy. Distance has nothing to do with it... Of course it does you complete idiot. Do you think it costs the same to ship or fly something from Australia as it does to ship or fly it from France? Obviously the further the distance you have to ship something, the higher the shipping costs. A cost that needs to be passed on. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 10:45:25 GMT
It has always been the case that the greater the distance a product has to travel, the greater the travel costs involved and the higher the end price has to be to make it economically viable. It therefore does not really make economic sense to diminish trade with our nearest neighbours whilst attempting to replace it with trade from the other side of the globe. Little wonder that we have higher inflation than nearly every other western economy. We have a FTA with the EU. We are part of CPTPP trading community. Digital tech and services many of which travel through the internet. Digital services are an exception. There are no shipping costs involved. For material stuff like manufactured items, raw materials, or food, the greater the distance the higher the shipping costs. This ought to be blindingly obvious. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2023 10:46:20 GMT
Distance has nothing to do with it... Of course it does you complete idiot. Do you think it costs the same to ship or fly something from Australia as it does to ship or fly it from France? Obviously the further the distance you have to ship something, the higher the shipping costs. A cost that needs to be passed on. Where do you think the EUSSR car manufacturers get their chips from? FFS there are containers ships backwards and forwards on every ocean on the planet each day... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 10:48:19 GMT
It has always been the case that the greater the distance a product has to travel, the greater the travel costs involved and the higher the end price has to be to make it economically viable. It therefore does not really make economic sense to diminish trade with our nearest neighbours whilst attempting to replace it with trade from the other side of the globe. Little wonder that we have higher inflation than nearly every other western economy. look to the future - who is it best to tie yourself to?, a shrinking market or an expanding one? Our European neighbours will always be important trading partners due to their proximity to us so placing increasing costs on trade with them makes no sense from an economic point of view. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 10:51:41 GMT
Of course it does you complete idiot. Do you think it costs the same to ship or fly something from Australia as it does to ship or fly it from France? Obviously the further the distance you have to ship something, the higher the shipping costs. A cost that needs to be passed on. Where do you think the EUSSR car manufacturers get their chips from? FFS there are containers ships backwards and forwards on every ocean on the planet each day... There is no such entity as the EUSSR. It is a figment of your fervid imagination. It nevertheless remains an obvious fact that it will cost a lot more to transport something 12,000 miles than it would to transport it 100 miles |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 1, 2023 12:24:58 GMT
Sounds like you've just had some bitter news. You wish but you'd be wrong, again. But then I know how ridiculous crowing about 0.08% is especially when it comes with attendant risks to UK jobs. Sorry, but you seem bitter about this news. Ho Hum. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 1, 2023 12:28:32 GMT
We have a FTA with the EU. We are part of CPTPP trading community. Digital tech and services many of which travel through the internet. Digital services are an exception. There are no shipping costs involved. For material stuff like manufactured items, raw materials, or food, the greater the distance the higher the shipping costs. This ought to be blindingly obvious. And these goods UK consumers have on offer will probably still cost less to purchase due to the EU's artificially high protectionist policy. The UK consumer will have the choice whether to buy goods at a favourable rate from the Pacific Rim or the EU. This ought to be blindingly obvious. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2023 12:42:14 GMT
Digital services are an exception. There are no shipping costs involved. For material stuff like manufactured items, raw materials, or food, the greater the distance the higher the shipping costs. This ought to be blindingly obvious. And these goods UK consumers have on offer will probably still cost less to purchase due to the EU's artificially high protectionist policy. The UK consumer will have the choice whether to buy goods at a favourable rate from the Pacific Rim or the EU. This ought to be blindingly obvious. The type of deal we have now with the CPTPP is the deal we were led to believe was the same we signed upto by joining the CM. We were stitched up by a lying self serving PM who was BENT in more ways than one. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 1, 2023 12:50:25 GMT
And these goods UK consumers have on offer will probably still cost less to purchase due to the EU's artificially high protectionist policy. The UK consumer will have the choice whether to buy goods at a favourable rate from the Pacific Rim or the EU. This ought to be blindingly obvious. The type of deal we have now with the CPTPP is the deal we were led to believe was the same we signed upto by joining the CM. We were stitched up by a lying self serving PM who was BENT in more ways than one. I think with this deal being made and the salty responses we're seeing from particular posters means that they know re-joining the EU is now in the distance of the rear view mirror.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 12:55:29 GMT
We are Europeans - we are part of Europe - most of our holidaying is done in Europe - most of our sporting and cultural ties are with Europe ( The Eurovision Song Contest, European Football, European athletics ).
Most of our trade and business is done with Europe, because European countries are close by, they are our neighbours, and doing trade with your closest neighbours is ALWAYS going to be easier, cheaper, quicker and less hassle than doing trade with places on the other side of the world.
Many industries will not be able to do business with Japan or Australia, or be able to substitute European trade, such as in the agricultural, hortucultural and fishing industries.
Many British businesses will not be able to compete with a comparable business in Australia or Japan because of transportation costs 10,000 miles compared to 30 miles Folkstone to Calais by rail.
The idea that this Asia / Pacific Trade Block on the opposite side of the world can somehow equate to our most important trade partners is quite frankly stark raving bonkers.
Brexiteers have not only well and truly lost the argument - they have lost the plot
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2023 12:56:48 GMT
We are Europeans - we are part of Europe - most of our holidaying is done in Europe - most of our sporting and cultural ties are with Europe ( The Eurovision Song Contest, European Football, European athletics ). Most of our trade and business is done with Europe, because European countries are close by, they are our neighbours, and doing trade with your closest neighbours is ALWAYS going to be easier, cheaper, quicker and less hassle than doing trade with places on the other side of the world. Many industries will not be able to do business with Japan or Australia, or be able to substitute European trade, such as in the agricultural, hortucultural and fishing industries. Many British businesses will not be able to compete with a comparable business in Australia or Japan because of transportation costs 10,000 miles compared to 30 miles Folkstone to Calais by rail.The idea that this Asia / Pacific Trade Block on the opposite side of the world can somehow equate to our most important trade partners is quite frankly stark raving bonkers. Brexiteers have not only well and truly lost the argument - they have lost the plot Total lefty bollox. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 1, 2023 12:58:46 GMT
I think with this deal being made and the salty responses we're seeing from particular posters means that they know re-joining the EU is now in the distance of the rear view mirror. Yep, as predicted in the OP. But then again, as we've seen many times, if the remnants hate it it's probably a good idea. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 1, 2023 12:59:31 GMT
The type of deal we have now with the CPTPP is the deal we were led to believe was the same we signed upto by joining the CM. We were stitched up by a lying self serving PM who was BENT in more ways than one. I think with this deal being made and the salty responses we're seeing from particular posters means that they know re-joining the EU is now in the distance of the rear view mirror. Correct.👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 13:01:51 GMT
I think with this deal being made and the salty responses we're seeing from particular posters means that they know re-joining the EU is now in the distance of the rear view mirror. Correct.👍 Wrong, we can re-join the EU whenever we want, it just needs someone with common sense in government. |
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