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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 30, 2023 17:17:54 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 30, 2023 17:19:12 GMT
I'm sure Pat has nothing to worry about.  Postal voting has a lot to answer for mate. Absolutely. It should be banned unless your disabled. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 30, 2023 17:29:56 GMT
There have been alleged and proved irregularities. But has the result of any modern political election been proved to have been the result of fraud or rigging? A quick search hasn’t come up with any… |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 30, 2023 17:40:06 GMT
There have been alleged and proved irregularities. But has the result of any modern political election been proved to have been the result of fraud or rigging? A quick search hasn’t come up with any… A few years ago there were half a dozen councilors found guilty of massive postal vote fraud, they were all Labour councilors, and all six were Muslim. Cant remember whether this was in London or Birmingham, I will endeavour to find a link. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 30, 2023 17:41:34 GMT
There have been alleged and proved irregularities. But has the result of any modern political election been proved to have been the result of fraud or rigging? A quick search hasn’t come up with any… If you can bypass those irregularities with a simple change in the Law why not do it? |
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Post by Steve on Mar 30, 2023 21:07:08 GMT
Another thread you’ve managed to get an anti Islam slur into. Still, hands up anyone who’s surprised… A slur? I assure you it's not a slur. According to 'Muslim engagement and development', voter ID is a threat to democracy. ...The plans to introduce voter IDs present several major challenges to the proper functioning of the British democracy. To introduce such measures will only result in the undermining of our democracy, and election results being less credible...www.mend.org.uk/voters-now-required-to-present-id-at-polling-stations/And it never crossed your mind that a fringe group like MEND might not speak for all muslims? hands up anyone who’s surprised that it didn't |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 31, 2023 1:10:34 GMT
A couple of things:
No one has ever gone to a polling station and pretended to be me.
I was denied a vote in the 1997 referendum to establish a welsh assembly. My postal vote earned long before Blair’s expansion of the postal vote system, earned because my job as a freelancer meant i could be anywhere in the country on election day, was intercepted and returned to the electoral office with a clearly forged signature and i was unable to get a fresh ballot paper in time.
My 2007 (roughly) postal vote was returned with a slightly more convincing forged signature. I went to the electoral office because my papers had not come. I was by sheer chance home a fortnight before the election, but departing for a client the week of the election. I went to query the lack of a ballot paper, found the forged paper already returned, and called the police who didn’t give a shit
I was able to demand a fresh ballot paper that day, stood in the reception desk area and waited for it, and completed it right there.
I know of irregularities in wales where nomination papers were improperly completed, and other invalid statements made. Labour and Tory are guilty in equal measure
So i do not believe id cards will solve the real issues.
That said, photo id is available for election purposes free of charge. They try not to hand it out, but you can get it. I have and both my daughters have. One has no passport, the other like me sent it in for renewal when we realised photo id was needed, so applied for the voter id letter and got one (its a letter, not a card, with your photo printed on it
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 31, 2023 7:40:20 GMT
A slur? I assure you it's not a slur. According to 'Muslim engagement and development', voter ID is a threat to democracy. ...The plans to introduce voter IDs present several major challenges to the proper functioning of the British democracy. To introduce such measures will only result in the undermining of our democracy, and election results being less credible...www.mend.org.uk/voters-now-required-to-present-id-at-polling-stations/And it never crossed your mind that a fringe group like MEND might not speak for all muslims? hands up anyone who’s surprised that it didn't LOL, superb. You rarely disappoint. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 31, 2023 10:19:22 GMT
There have been alleged and proved irregularities. But has the result of any modern political election been proved to have been the result of fraud or rigging? A quick search hasn’t come up with any… A few years ago there were half a dozen councilors found guilty of massive postal vote fraud, they were all Labour councilors, and all six were Muslim. Cant remember whether this was in London or Birmingham, I will endeavour to find a link. The Western Daily Press reported identity fraud on the part of / for the benefit of a Swansea Tory Party candidate. Probably the highest profile case of debarrment was Phil Woolas, the junior Labour immigration minister barred from ever standing again as a result of violating election law, but i’m not sure identity fraud was part of that. In a world where motorists are pursued for entertainment and ripped off with crap like car tax needing to be paid twice in the month a vehicle is sold, once by the seller not getting a refund, then again by the buyer having to pay for the weeks already refunded, a stunt that brings in an extra 8% in tax revenue for literal highway robbery, i have fuck all sympathy for those who whinge this measure addresses only a tiny problem. |
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