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Post by Dubdrifter on Mar 30, 2023 7:21:16 GMT
I am not interested in peoples opinions, especially those opinions recommended by way out people like yourself. How Globalist stooges ‘out’ themselves as TROLLS. 🤣 …. You’re not the brightest spanner in the toolbox, are you?, Cee2 ? I’ve just got some news from Globalist Totalitarian’s Central Office😎 … your pay check for next month has been cancelled …please collect your last cheque and your P.45 from the Langley, Virginia Headquarters by Monday. 😂👏🤡 [In case you are wondering WHY you have been sacked …. the conditions of your employ were “you should remain UNDERCOVER on this discussion platform” - breach of contract - no appeals - bye, bye] 🤩 😢
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 31, 2023 6:45:51 GMT
I see Grant Shapps has said we will continue with our deadline of 2030 for phasing out petrol cars. Also next year 22% of cars manufacturers sell will have to be electric (pure EV or plug-in hybrid) and the percentage will rise every year until 2030 when all cars have to be EV. And after 2035 plug-in hybrids will be banned too. Any manufacturer breaching these rules will be fined (£15,000 per car) except if they buy "credits" from other manufacturers who beat the figures - so Tesla could stave off their bankruptcy by selling credits).
Of course this is all nonsense - and everybody knows it.
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Post by Steve on Mar 31, 2023 11:19:26 GMT
Toyota throws in the towel.
No they're rightly not following the 'must go 100% pure electric' idiocy and staying flexible hedging their bets.
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Post by see2 on Apr 1, 2023 20:04:38 GMT
I am not interested in peoples opinions, especially those opinions recommended by way out people like yourself. How Globalist stooges ‘out’ themselves as TROLLS. 🤣 …. You’re not the brightest spanner in the toolbox, are you?, Cee2 ? I’ve just got some news from Globalist Totalitarian’s Central Office😎 … your pay check for next month has been cancelled …please collect your last cheque and your P.45 from the Langley, Virginia Headquarters by Monday. 😂👏🤡 [In case you are wondering WHY you have been sacked …. the conditions of your employ were “you should remain UNDERCOVER on this discussion platform” - breach of contract - no appeals - bye, bye] 🤩 😢 I am bright enough to have spotted you as a numpty long ago which is why I recognise your opinions as worthless. I am pretty sure I have told you that in the past.
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Post by see2 on Apr 1, 2023 20:08:24 GMT
You should stop posting anti-Eco crap until you can prove, not just contrive, your position to be correct. There are many thousands of hectors of trees planted every year, between 1,000 and 2,500 per hector. And the trees you are so concerned about will all be replace. IIRC the trees were removed because of the damage they were doing to pavements and roads leaving them constantly requiring to be repaired. Some of these trees are 5000 years old, how long do you think it will take to grow a tree to the size of the ones they are murdering?
Put it this way, you wont see those trees to live to be 5000 years old, the Earth will be well gone.
The new trees will be doing their job at an increasing level from day one.
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Post by see2 on Apr 1, 2023 20:24:09 GMT
My “way out” opinions might one day educate you towards listening to REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS like Jeff Gibbs … who practiced what they preached … lived being ecologists and seriously researched their subject all their lives. Of course you won’t watch the film … you’re not open-minded … No one, absolutely no one, can give anything other than their opinions on climate change for the very simple reason that the planet has NEVER overheated before while being aided and abetted by the mass production of 'green house gasses' by humans. The use of fossil fuels is poisoning humans and the planet, if you and some others are too thick to understand that obvious reality, then I won't be taking any advice from you or your ilk.
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Post by see2 on Apr 1, 2023 20:29:01 GMT
There is no point in trying to debate with you, you are locked into your own box of thoughts and appear to be unable to step outside and debate. It's clear the only one who can't debate this subject is you, and how do we know that?
Easy, your response of telling others they can't debate, and that's your cop-out, at least be honest about it.
Discussion with the likes of yourself who is full of fixed opinions is just not possible.
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Post by Toreador on Apr 1, 2023 21:53:01 GMT
My “way out” opinions might one day educate you towards listening to REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS like Jeff Gibbs … who practiced what they preached … lived being ecologists and seriously researched their subject all their lives. Of course you won’t watch the film … you’re not open-minded … No one, absolutely no one, can give anything other than their opinions on climate change for the very simple reason that the planet has NEVER overheated before while being aided and abetted by the mass production of 'green house gasses' by humans. The use of fossil fuels is poisoning humans and the planet, if you and some others are too thick to understand that obvious reality, then I won't be taking any advice from you or your ilk. There's a body of opinion that says it is not the case. I'm getting closer to thinking cremation is the way to go, just to prtove the point. As another old fossil, you should be thinking that way too.
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Post by ratcliff on Apr 1, 2023 23:27:12 GMT
We know it's bullshit when they are putting a 'green tax' on everything to 'save the planet', then on the next breath the same people are mass murdering perfectly healthy trees that have been on this planet far longer than humans, they are natures FREE planet filtrations that absorbs masses of crap and pollution in the air, there should be protection orders on trees, like there are on some wildlife, chopping them down to make way for housing developers to create concrete jungles.
So don't be giving us all the Eco crap.
You should stop posting anti-Eco crap until you can prove, not just contrive, your position to be correct. There are many thousands of hectors of trees planted every year, between 1,000 and 2,500 per hector. And the trees you are so concerned about will all be replace. IIRC the trees were removed because of the damage they were doing to pavements and roads leaving them constantly requiring to be repaired. Hectors of trees? Hector's House? Don't remember Hector having a tree house but maybe I'm wrong www.themoviedb.org/tv/9649-hector-s-house(Don't you like trees or appreciate their vital benefit to the environment with such an anti environment attitude as displayed in your post which supports destrying trees for the sake of it)
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 2, 2023 6:07:29 GMT
My “way out” opinions might one day educate you towards listening to REAL ENVIRONMENTALISTS like Jeff Gibbs … who practiced what they preached … lived being ecologists and seriously researched their subject all their lives. Of course you won’t watch the film … you’re not open-minded … No one, absolutely no one, can give anything other than their opinions on climate change for the very simple reason that the planet has NEVER overheated before while being aided and abetted by the mass production of 'green house gasses' by humans. The use of fossil fuels is poisoning humans and the planet, if you and some others are too thick to understand that obvious reality, then I won't be taking any advice from you or your ilk. Why do you think it's "obvious" that it's fossil fuels that are causing the problems rather than, for example, the fact that we've repurposed about 75% of the surface of the planet for housing, infrastructure, crop growing etc? Remember that there was an identical period of warming in the early twentieth century (the ETCW) that occurred without any increase in fossil fuel usage (or CO2).
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Post by dodgydave on Apr 2, 2023 21:45:32 GMT
Can't believe nobody has pointed this out...
The EU get's cold feet BECAUSE GERMANY DEMANDS IT.
Car manufacturing is a huge part of the Germany economy. It has nothing to do with being green or saving the planet. Germany thinks there is more profit in selling ICE vehicles, so Germany gets it own way. A perfect example of why people wanted to leave the EU. A so called democratic institution of equals, poisoning the lungs of its citizens for the financial interest of its wealthiest member lol.
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