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Post by patman post on Mar 29, 2023 12:10:42 GMT
London Borough of Hackney has decided to make its LTN in Stoke Newington permanent. It's now imposing street closures and restrictions around the borough.
Here's the type of data on which it has bases decisions — closing a major shopping street to motor taffic to everything but buses for 12 hours (between 7am and 7pm) has cut other traffic by 53 percent. Surprise, surprise...
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Post by Paulus de B on Mar 31, 2023 12:12:53 GMT
It's reasonable for local authorities to determine where traffic can and can't run, isn't it? One-way streets, for example, or single and double white and yellow lines, chevrons and lane dividers, etc. Every change of such regulations will be better for some road-users and worse for others. What's the particular objections to the latest changes?
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 31, 2023 12:46:26 GMT
It's civil unrest, which will lead to riots, people are fed up and taking matters into their own hands, if no one listens to them this is what will happen, and the police wont be cutout to deal with it. It's happening in London too - ULEZ cameras are being vandalised wholesale and rightly so, afer all what other options do people have when these measures are imposed contrary to the will of the majority? Indeed, I'd suggest that when democracy is ignored such actions become a civic duty. Hahaaaaaaaaaaa, superb avatar.  |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 31, 2023 18:09:09 GMT
It's reasonable for local authorities to determine where traffic can and can't run, isn't it? One-way streets, for example, or single and double white and yellow lines, chevrons and lane dividers, etc. Every change of such regulations will be better for some road-users and worse for others. What's the particular objections to the latest changes? So basically in a 15 min city you will have no choice in your healthcare and dentistry etc, because you will only be allowed to use those very locally, a bit like the restrictions on choice of schools. Good luck with that.
Ministers come under pressure to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' LTNs as it emerges 240 ambulances were delayed by low traffic schemes Came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed due to LTNs Experts said incidents would be 'tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan
Ministers were last night under growing pressure from their own MPs and campaigners to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' low-traffic neighbourhoods.
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially
life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes.
Experts said the recorded incidents would be 'the tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan and there are hundreds more low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) in other cities. It is also believed that not all incidents were recorded.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11925437/Ministers-come-pressure-scrap-preposterous-dangerous-LTNs.html |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2023 12:54:33 GMT
The leftie, commie councillors may be embracing it but the ordinary folk are not.........Twatfords vision for the whole of Wales. Oxford, Bristol and Sheffield are all embracing the 15-minute city: But is the walkable 'urban village' concept a boon or a curse? Have you ever found yourself at the wheel, seething with anger as new bollards prevent you using a short cut? Or swerving to keep out of a rarely used cycle lane? If so, it's a fair bet you may be experiencing the latest concept in urban planning: the 15-minute city. This scheme, developed by French-Colombian scientist Carlos Moreno, proposes that people should be able to find all the amenities they need — shops, healthcare, schools, leisure — a 15-minute walk or bicycle ride from their homes. www.dailymail.co.uk/property/article-11921133/Oxford-Bristol-Sheffield-embrace-15-minute-city-concept-boon-curse.html |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 13:29:58 GMT
It's reasonable for local authorities to determine where traffic can and can't run, isn't it? One-way streets, for example, or single and double white and yellow lines, chevrons and lane dividers, etc. Every change of such regulations will be better for some road-users and worse for others. What's the particular objections to the latest changes? So basically in a 15 min city you will have no choice in your healthcare and dentistry etc, because you will only be allowed to use those very locally, a bit like the restrictions on choice of schools. Good luck with that.
Ministers come under pressure to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' LTNs as it emerges 240 ambulances were delayed by low traffic schemes Came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed due to LTNs Experts said incidents would be 'tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan
Ministers were last night under growing pressure from their own MPs and campaigners to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' low-traffic neighbourhoods.
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially
life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes.
Experts said the recorded incidents would be 'the tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan and there are hundreds more low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) in other cities. It is also believed that not all incidents were recorded.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11925437/Ministers-come-pressure-scrap-preposterous-dangerous-LTNs.htmlEvery time a road is altered, diverted or blocked off, the local council MUST by law inform the emergency services, which renders the above post Bull Shit. The advantages of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods far outweigh any negative impact, it makes street safer, it helps to lower crime, it reduces polution, noise and makes streets and communities better places to live. The problem for you is that you represent the populist so called "freedom fighters", meaning the selfish elements of society who believe thay can do WTF they want, and without having to think about, or worry about their actions, or consequences on other people. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2023 13:37:24 GMT
So basically in a 15 min city you will have no choice in your healthcare and dentistry etc, because you will only be allowed to use those very locally, a bit like the restrictions on choice of schools. Good luck with that.
Ministers come under pressure to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' LTNs as it emerges 240 ambulances were delayed by low traffic schemes Came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed due to LTNs Experts said incidents would be 'tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan
Ministers were last night under growing pressure from their own MPs and campaigners to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' low-traffic neighbourhoods.
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially
life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes.
Experts said the recorded incidents would be 'the tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan and there are hundreds more low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) in other cities. It is also believed that not all incidents were recorded.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11925437/Ministers-come-pressure-scrap-preposterous-dangerous-LTNs.htmlEvery time a road is altered, diverted or blocked off, the local council MUST by law inform the emergency services, which renders the above post Bull Shit. The advantages of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods far outweigh any negative impact, it makes street safer, it helps to lower crime, it reduces polution, noise and makes streets and communities better places to live. The problem for you is that you represent the populist so called "freedom fighters", meaning the selfish elements of society who believe thay can do WTF they want, and without having to think about, or worry about their actions, or consequences on other people. Total lefty bollox yet again. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 1, 2023 13:38:04 GMT
So basically in a 15 min city you will have no choice in your healthcare and dentistry etc, because you will only be allowed to use those very locally, a bit like the restrictions on choice of schools. Good luck with that.
Ministers come under pressure to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' LTNs as it emerges 240 ambulances were delayed by low traffic schemes Came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed due to LTNs Experts said incidents would be 'tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan
Ministers were last night under growing pressure from their own MPs and campaigners to scrap 'preposterous' and 'dangerous' low-traffic neighbourhoods.
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially
life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes
It came as new figures showed nearly 240 ambulances were delayed from reaching potentially life-threatening callouts due to the controversial schemes.
Experts said the recorded incidents would be 'the tip of the iceberg' as they relate only to Londonistan and there are hundreds more low-traffic neighbourhoods (LTNs) in other cities. It is also believed that not all incidents were recorded.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11925437/Ministers-come-pressure-scrap-preposterous-dangerous-LTNs.htmlEvery time a road is altered, diverted or blocked off, the local council MUST by law inform the emergency services, which renders the above post Bull Shit. The advantages of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods far outweigh any negative impact, it makes street safer, it helps to lower crime, it reduces polution, noise and makes streets and communities better places to live. The problem for you is that you represent the populist so called "freedom fighters", meaning the selfish elements of society who believe thay can do WTF they want, and without having to think about, or worry about their actions, or consequences on other people. You do realise that blocking off, altering and diverting roads can lead to delayed journeys, even if the emergency services are informed ? |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2023 13:45:22 GMT
Every time a road is altered, diverted or blocked off, the local council MUST by law inform the emergency services, which renders the above post Bull Shit. The advantages of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods far outweigh any negative impact, it makes street safer, it helps to lower crime, it reduces polution, noise and makes streets and communities better places to live. The problem for you is that you represent the populist so called "freedom fighters", meaning the selfish elements of society who believe thay can do WTF they want, and without having to think about, or worry about their actions, or consequences on other people. even if the emergency services are informed ? Not on Sids planet... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 14:22:16 GMT
In instances where a street has been blocked off to through traffic in order to create a better, safer environment, the alternative route is usually a matter of SECONDS in difference. Councils who create these Traffic Free Neighbourhoods have to consider emergency vehicles in every proposal.
It almost always means that an alternative route is via the next street, or a street in very close proximety, not 5 miles away, try living in the world of reality.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 1, 2023 14:23:46 GMT
In instances where a street has been blocked off to through traffic in order to create a better, safer environment, the alternative route is usually a matter of SECONDS in difference. Councils who create these Traffic Free Neighbourhoods have to consider emergency vehicles in every proposal. It almost always means that an alternative route is via the next street, or a street in very close proximety, not 5 miles away, try living in the world of reality. Try living in a bloody village in the back of beyond... |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 1, 2023 14:25:40 GMT
In instances where a street has been blocked off to through traffic in order to create a better, safer environment, the alternative route is usually a matter of SECONDS in difference. Councils who create these Traffic Free Neighbourhoods have to consider emergency vehicles in every proposal. It almost always means that an alternative route is via the next street, or a street in very close proximety, not 5 miles away, try living in the world of reality. So just to be clear, you are saying this is a good thing Sydney? |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 1, 2023 14:34:23 GMT
In instances where a street has been blocked off to through traffic in order to create a better, safer environment, the alternative route is usually a matter of SECONDS in difference. Councils who create these Traffic Free Neighbourhoods have to consider emergency vehicles in every proposal. It almost always means that an alternative route is via the next street, or a street in very close proximety, not 5 miles away, try living in the world of reality. If traffic is not delayed and any street can be accessed just as quickly than before then why do it? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 14:52:53 GMT
In instances where a street has been blocked off to through traffic in order to create a better, safer environment, the alternative route is usually a matter of SECONDS in difference. Councils who create these Traffic Free Neighbourhoods have to consider emergency vehicles in every proposal. It almost always means that an alternative route is via the next street, or a street in very close proximety, not 5 miles away, try living in the world of reality. So just to be clear, you are saying this is a good thing Sydney? Yes of course its a good thing, and most people who live in these Traffic Free Neighbourhoods say so Such areas often apply to older streets, often back to back terraces where many streets run paralel with one another, and typically instead of EVERY street been accessible to through traffic, they make for example every third or second street accessible. In virtually every instance it means that alternative access is literaly a street away, or a couple of streets, resulting in a delay of seconds, maybe as long as half a minute. These TFN areas often make huge improvements to peoples quality of life, often from so called "boy racers", from noise, polution, crime and the safety of children and pedestrians. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 1, 2023 14:57:09 GMT
So just to be clear, you are saying this is a good thing Sydney? Yes of course its a good thing, and most people who live in these Traffic Free Neighbourhoods say so Such areas often apply to older streets, often back to back terraces where many streets run paralel with one another, and typically instead of EVERY street been accessible to through traffic, they make for example every third or second street accessible. In virtually every instance it means that alternative access is literaly a street away, or a couple of streets, resulting in a delay of seconds, maybe as long as half a minute. These TFN areas often make huge improvements to peoples quality of life, often from so called "boy racers", from noise, polution, crime and the safety of children and pedestrians. Fine, but according to you, all that has happened is you haven't dealt with the problem but just moved it a few streets and reading what others say, have endangered others lives in the process. It doesn't sound at all well thought out. |
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