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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 26, 2023 20:16:34 GMT
Some of them believed that the Earth and the planets went round the sun, that the sun was a star "close up", that the stars probably had solar systems, that life probably existed throughout the universe, that the mind is a product of the activities of matter and energy, that Gods did not exist ("Fancies something like the truth").
A modern day educator once suggested that infants should be taught this at primary school.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 9, 2023 1:27:10 GMT
Some of them believed that the Earth and the planets went round the sun, that the sun was a star "close up", that the stars probably had solar systems, that life probably existed throughout the universe, that the mind is a product of the activities of matter and energy, that Gods did not exist ("Fancies something like the truth"). A modern day educator once suggested that infants should be taught this at primary school. In my first year undergraduate science degree i was taught that ‘science progresses by interaction between thought and experiment’ meaning that to get anywhere you must provide, along with your idea of how the world works, an outline of something you could do to test this. Now it is very important to understand this test need only be an outline, and it is perfectly acceptable to say that you realise the technology does not yet exist to perform the experiment, but it remains critical that someone devise a way to test what you say should happen. My lecturers told me the greek philosophers were quite productive on ideas, but not so much on ways to prove them.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Apr 9, 2023 2:27:39 GMT
Some of them believed that the Earth and the planets went round the sun, that the sun was a star "close up", that the stars probably had solar systems, that life probably existed throughout the universe, that the mind is a product of the activities of matter and energy, that Gods did not exist ("Fancies something like the truth"). A modern day educator once suggested that infants should be taught this at primary school. In my first year undergraduate science degree i was taught that ‘science progresses by interaction between thought and experiment’ meaning that to get anywhere you must provide, along with your idea of how the world works, an outline of something you could do to test this. Now it is very important to understand this test need only be an outline, and it is perfectly acceptable to say that you realise the technology does not yet exist to perform the experiment, but it remains critical that someone devise a way to test what you say should happen. My lecturers told me the greek philosophers were quite productive on ideas, but not so much on ways to prove them. Yes it is amazing that the Greeks figured out Geometry and Logic, but it would almost a couple of millennia to devise the scientific method, and that such a simple method as it is was the most powerful method man had ever devised.
Anyhow I got quite into Greek philosophy and got the gist of how they thought. To give you some idea, they figured Poetry was the highest form of human achievement. They had a pecking order where the poet was top dog, and then there were the philosophers which ranked second. With Maths though, they saw it as just an aid to designing buildings, as per geo relates to the ground and how one might get square edges and the like. I understand many British homes don't have square edges even to this day. Anyway, in my view it was the French who really gave Maths a big boost. It's a shame the Greeks did not apply the maths to physics, despite Aristotle's book called Physics. This was the problem. The Greeks had errors in their systems.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 9, 2023 7:26:59 GMT
Bibo, Ergo Sum ?
Although i suppose they would, strictly speaking, be Italian philosophers …
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