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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 24, 2023 14:30:49 GMT
I was just listening to a chap called Marc Bridgen on GB News who is the owner of what I would describe as a nice pub restaurant in Kent. He was at his wits end trying to make ends meet, he says he doesn't want to put his prices up because he knows his customers are feeling the pinch, but he may have no choice, indeed his business like many others may fold.
He said it's not the wholesale cost of food & drink that's killing his business, but utility bills. He said his heating bill has jumped from £30,000 a year to more than £100,000. He cant turn the heating down who wants to visit a cold pub/restaurant. He said the current situation is not sustainable and that he no longer pays himself a wage, he only pays his staff although he doesn't know for how much longer.
This is a direct result of incompetent energy policy combined with net zero. The summer months and a brief period of respite are ahead of us, but come next autumn I wonder how many pubs & restaurants unable to face the prospect of huge heating bills will simply close the doors for good.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 25, 2023 14:20:34 GMT
The reality is the government, and even more so the opposition and devolved governments, have had it in for the pub trade for a VERY long time…
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Post by Steve on Mar 25, 2023 14:35:17 GMT
I was just listening to a chap called Marc Bridgen on GB News who is the owner of what I would describe as a nice pub restaurant in Kent. He was at his wits end trying to make ends meet, he says he doesn't want to put his prices up because he knows his customers are feeling the pinch, but he may have no choice, indeed his business like many others may fold. He said it's not the wholesale cost of food & drink that's killing his business, but utility bills. He said his heating bill has jumped from £30,000 a year to more than £100,000. He cant turn the heating down who wants to visit a cold pub/restaurant. He said the current situation is not sustainable and that he no longer pays himself a wage, he only pays his staff although he doesn't know for how much longer. This is a direct result of incompetent energy policy combined with net zero. The summer months and a brief period of respite are ahead of us, but come next autumn I wonder how many pubs & restaurants unable to face the prospect of huge heating bills will simply close the doors for good. It's not just a pub/restaurant, it's a hotel www.thedog.co.uk/rooms so (a) if he'll misrepresent what he is how can we trust that £100k? and (b) it doesn't seem so much now. Linkage to 'net zero' policies will also have been wildly exaggerated by Bridgen. The truth is they have a minor effect fullfact.org/economy/green-levies/ |
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Post by Handyman on Mar 26, 2023 15:54:13 GMT
I was just listening to a chap called Marc Bridgen on GB News who is the owner of what I would describe as a nice pub restaurant in Kent. He was at his wits end trying to make ends meet, he says he doesn't want to put his prices up because he knows his customers are feeling the pinch, but he may have no choice, indeed his business like many others may fold. He said it's not the wholesale cost of food & drink that's killing his business, but utility bills. He said his heating bill has jumped from £30,000 a year to more than £100,000. He cant turn the heating down who wants to visit a cold pub/restaurant. He said the current situation is not sustainable and that he no longer pays himself a wage, he only pays his staff although he doesn't know for how much longer. This is a direct result of incompetent energy policy combined with net zero. The summer months and a brief period of respite are ahead of us, but come next autumn I wonder how many pubs & restaurants unable to face the prospect of huge heating bills will simply close the doors for good. Pubs were going to the wall a number of years ago, its even harder now for them to make a decent living with all the overheads and people buying cheaper booze from Supermarkets |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 26, 2023 22:09:48 GMT
Build back enough power stations to lower electricity prices to 1993 levels.
Cut tax on booze to 1993 levels.
Mandate a drop in the price of a commercial Sky subscription, or they lose broadcasting rights.
Get people socialising again.
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 27, 2023 0:28:54 GMT
The gas price is falling dramatically. Companies are starting to do deals again, and they reckon by July the market will be awash with deals again... so don't sign up for anything till the summer!!
Tbh pubs and restaurants have been dying for years, the Internet has changed the way youngsters live.
If they want a shag they go on Tinder instead of going to the pub. If they want beer and food they have a house party and get it delivered.
Just look at the young men these days, they spend all their money on German cars, steroids, turkey teeth and hair transplants as they follow the Instagram lifestyle.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 27, 2023 9:33:11 GMT
I was just listening to a chap called Marc Bridgen on GB News who is the owner of what I would describe as a nice pub restaurant in Kent. He was at his wits end trying to make ends meet, he says he doesn't want to put his prices up because he knows his customers are feeling the pinch, but he may have no choice, indeed his business like many others may fold. He said it's not the wholesale cost of food & drink that's killing his business, but utility bills. He said his heating bill has jumped from £30,000 a year to more than £100,000. He cant turn the heating down who wants to visit a cold pub/restaurant. He said the current situation is not sustainable and that he no longer pays himself a wage, he only pays his staff although he doesn't know for how much longer. This is a direct result of incompetent energy policy combined with net zero. The summer months and a brief period of respite are ahead of us, but come next autumn I wonder how many pubs & restaurants unable to face the prospect of huge heating bills will simply close the doors for good. It's not just a pub/restaurant, it's a hotel www.thedog.co.uk/rooms so (a) if he'll misrepresent what he is how can we trust that £100k? and (b) it doesn't seem so much now. Linkage to 'net zero' policies will also have been wildly exaggerated by Bridgen. The truth is they have a minor effect fullfact.org/economy/green-levies/ I am aware the pub in question is also a small hotel and B&B, I didn't think an expansive description and full postal address was necessary, however in view of your pedantry I accept that was clearly an oversight on my part. The point being, the owner of the business Marc Bridgen said that over the past 14 months his gas/electricity bill had increased from c£30,000 pa, to c£104,000 pa. Your claim that the effects of net zero [On energy costs] are exaggerated is nonsense. This will obviously come as a shock to you but there are tens of thousands of SME's in this county who are struggling with the cost of net zero. |
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Post by om15 on Mar 27, 2023 11:26:59 GMT
I went to my local village pub yesterday lunchtime for a pre lunch pint, the familiar landlady had jacked it in and a new owner/landlord had taken over. It is rather a boozers pub and sunday lunch time is normally stacked at the bar and diners having lunch in the back room. Yesterday there was a girl serving, the landlord, two blokes nursing a pint and us two, and that was it. They have still managed to keep the prices down (Doombar £4.40 a pint) but I can't see it lasting much longer. The pub in the next village has shut recently, and over the past few years the local market town has lost five pubs.
In the case of this particular pub the heating is provided by a large ancient open wood fire, whereby damp pallets, old railway sleepers and bits of trees are burnt to provide warmth and good cheer. I am not sure if net zero will be so enthusiastically pursued if Reform UK get a number of seats in the HoC as they say they are opposed to it, so the Tories might ease up now Carrie is no longer in charge.
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Post by om15 on Mar 27, 2023 11:29:30 GMT
Not in North Dorset they don't, they drive tractors, drink cider (often both together) play football and have haircuts like Ozzie Osborne
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 27, 2023 13:56:44 GMT
I went to my local village pub yesterday lunchtime for a pre lunch pint, the familiar landlady had jacked it in and a new owner/landlord had taken over. It is rather a boozers pub and sunday lunch time is normally stacked at the bar and diners having lunch in the back room. Yesterday there was a girl serving, the landlord, two blokes nursing a pint and us two, and that was it. They have still managed to keep the prices down (Doombar £4.40 a pint) but I can't see it lasting much longer. The pub in the next village has shut recently, and over the past few years the local market town has lost five pubs. In the case of this particular pub the heating is provided by a large ancient open wood fire, whereby damp pallets, old railway sleepers and bits of trees are burnt to provide warmth and good cheer. I am not sure if net zero will be so enthusiastically pursued if Reform UK get a number of seats in the HoC as they say they are opposed to it, so the Tories might ease up now Carrie is no longer in charge. We only have one local pub and even though he serves quite a small community I think he's doing OK because it's a gastro pub and the restaurant side of the business seems to be quite successful. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 27, 2023 13:59:22 GMT
I was just listening to a chap called Marc Bridgen on GB News who is the owner of what I would describe as a nice pub restaurant in Kent. He was at his wits end trying to make ends meet, he says he doesn't want to put his prices up because he knows his customers are feeling the pinch, but he may have no choice, indeed his business like many others may fold. He said it's not the wholesale cost of food & drink that's killing his business, but utility bills. He said his heating bill has jumped from £30,000 a year to more than £100,000. He cant turn the heating down who wants to visit a cold pub/restaurant. He said the current situation is not sustainable and that he no longer pays himself a wage, he only pays his staff although he doesn't know for how much longer. This is a direct result of incompetent energy policy combined with net zero. The summer months and a brief period of respite are ahead of us, but come next autumn I wonder how many pubs & restaurants unable to face the prospect of huge heating bills will simply close the doors for good. It's not just a pub/restaurant, it's a hotel www.thedog.co.uk/rooms so (a) if he'll misrepresent what he is how can we trust that £100k? and (b) it doesn't seem so much now. Linkage to 'net zero' policies will also have been wildly exaggerated by Bridgen. The truth is they have a minor effect fullfact.org/economy/green-levies/ Steve that link says 404 not found is there more to the link ?? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 27, 2023 14:22:41 GMT
If you believe GB News(so not you then, steve) KPMG has warned pursuit of net zero will impact corporate profits for at some years. At first i wondered seeing that KPMG have gone all evangelically green and started charging internal penalties on travel etc., but then i saw The Telegraph are more than happy to charge you to read the same story so there you go steve someone youncan pay to believe …
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 27, 2023 17:29:42 GMT
Households are facing a decade of higher energy bills from the race to hit net zero and inflated gas prices, KPMG has warned.
Yael Selfin, chief economist at KPMG, said bills will remain elevated for the next five to 10 years because the “transition to net zero is going to add cost one way or another to our energy bills”.
The Big Four accountant said that energy bills were likely to remain around 93pc higher over the next decade than in the two years before Russia invaded Ukraine, which fuelled a surge in wholesale gas prices.
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Post by bancroft on Mar 27, 2023 17:37:01 GMT
Pubs were going to the wall a number of years ago, its even harder now for them to make a decent living with all the overheads and people buying cheaper booze from Supermarkets I think a few are ok by becoming eating venues with a bar. Though agree most are struggling. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 27, 2023 18:01:19 GMT
I went to my local village pub yesterday lunchtime for a pre lunch pint, the familiar landlady had jacked it in and a new owner/landlord had taken over. It is rather a boozers pub and sunday lunch time is normally stacked at the bar and diners having lunch in the back room. Yesterday there was a girl serving, the landlord, two blokes nursing a pint and us two, and that was it. They have still managed to keep the prices down (Doombar £4.40 a pint) but I can't see it lasting much longer. The pub in the next village has shut recently, and over the past few years the local market town has lost five pubs. In the case of this particular pub the heating is provided by a large ancient open wood fire, whereby damp pallets, old railway sleepers and bits of trees are burnt to provide warmth and good cheer. I am not sure if net zero will be so enthusiastically pursued if Reform UK get a number of seats in the HoC as they say they are opposed to it, so the Tories might ease up now Carrie is no longer in charge. We only have one local pub and even though he serves quite a small community I think he's doing OK because it's a gastro pub and the restaurant side of the business seems to be quite successful. Banning smoking in pubs hasn't helped either. |
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