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Post by sword on Oct 26, 2022 11:01:34 GMT
No, this is the price of foreign governments being twats, and whilst I'm at it may I remind you that the Russian government is sheltering actual murder suspects. Anne Sacoolas is accused of manslaughter, not murder. She didn't mean to kill Harry Dunn, she was grossly negligent at the wheel of a vehicle and drove incompetently, causing his death. Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun, murder suspects in the Litvinenko murder are / were protected by Putin. Anatoliy Chepiga and Dr. Alexander Yevgeniyevich Mishkin, the Salisbury poisoning murder suspects, again protected by Putin. We are neither a vassal of the USA or Russia. We expect justice in all cases, manslaughter / murder. Of course we are a vassal same as the EU,what fantasy world do you live in? this Country has protected terrorists and murderers many times,we shall see if we have the balls to tell the Americans to do one and not send Assange to a black hole in America. |
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Post by Vinny on Oct 26, 2022 11:03:24 GMT
Are we bollocks.
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Post by dappy on Oct 26, 2022 11:04:10 GMT
No Vinny, she is not accused of Manslaughter. She has pleaded guilty to causing death by careless driving. A more serious charge of causing death by dangerous driving was dropped.
It does feel unlikely that we would have allowed say a Kenyan diplomats wife to leave the country in such circumstances. We are subservient to the US - just a fact of life.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 26, 2022 13:39:36 GMT
No Vinny, she is not accused of Manslaughter. She has pleaded guilty to causing death by careless driving. A more serious charge of causing death by dangerous driving was dropped. It does feel unlikely that we would have allowed say a Kenyan diplomats wife to leave the country in such circumstances. We are subservient to the US - just a fact of life. I think you are wrong a Kenyan Diplomats living and working and his or her family are with them in the UK have full diplomatic immunity in the UK, as ours have in many different counties, it's an International Agreement going back many years which many nations are signed up to |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 18:01:47 GMT
No Vinny, she is not accused of Manslaughter. She has pleaded guilty to causing death by careless driving. A more serious charge of causing death by dangerous driving was dropped. It does feel unlikely that we would have allowed say a Kenyan diplomats wife to leave the country in such circumstances. We are subservient to the US - just a fact of life. I think you are wrong a Kenyan Diplomats living and working and his or her family are with them in the UK have full diplomatic immunity in the UK, as ours have in many different counties, it's an International Agreement going back many years which many nations are signed up to It's actually an agreement based on the false assumption that states will appoint staff at their embassies who will then engage in considered, gentlemanly conduct. If this was the case, diplomat immunity would never be used. However, giving people immunity to prosecution, which even our own royal family do not have seems very unwise. No one should be above the law. Incidentally, it is possible Northants Police made an error releasing her from custody. There is a process involving Special Branch and the Secret Service when people claim diplomatic immunity. According to reports, she did not have D.I. until the Americans decided she did, after the death was investigated and she had been arrested. |
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Post by Einhorn on Oct 26, 2022 20:08:34 GMT
I think you are wrong a Kenyan Diplomats living and working and his or her family are with them in the UK have full diplomatic immunity in the UK, as ours have in many different counties, it's an International Agreement going back many years which many nations are signed up to It's actually an agreement based on the false assumption that states will appoint staff at their embassies who will then engage in considered, gentlemanly conduct. If this was the case, diplomat immunity would never be used. However, giving people immunity to prosecution, which even our own royal family do not have seems very unwise. No one should be above the law. Incidentally, it is possible Northants Police made an error releasing her from custody. There is a process involving Special Branch and the Secret Service when people claim diplomatic immunity. According to reports, she did not have D.I. until the Americans decided she did, after the death was investigated and she had been arrested. Diplomatic immunity exists to make diplomats immune from blackmail by their host country. For example, to stop a country like China threatening to lock up their British ambassador on trumped up charges unless s/he agrees to hand over UK national secrets, etc. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 27, 2022 11:06:28 GMT
I think you are wrong a Kenyan Diplomats living and working and his or her family are with them in the UK have full diplomatic immunity in the UK, as ours have in many different counties, it's an International Agreement going back many years which many nations are signed up to It's actually an agreement based on the false assumption that states will appoint staff at their embassies who will then engage in considered, gentlemanly conduct. If this was the case, diplomat immunity would never be used. However, giving people immunity to prosecution, which even our own royal family do not have seems very unwise. No one should be above the law. Incidentally, it is possible Northants Police made an error releasing her from custody. There is a process involving Special Branch and the Secret Service when people claim diplomatic immunity. According to reports, she did not have D.I. until the Americans decided she did, after the death was investigated and she had been arrested. It is highly like that some of our Embassy Staff overseas are spies as well would be even more surprised if none of them were, I would love to know what is in the Diplomatic Pouches from all the Embassy's and Commissions around the world week in week out. I think only our Reigning Monarch is above the Law, all the others are not, perhaps as you say they should be, but I don't think that would go down well at home or abroad |
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