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Post by jonksy on Mar 21, 2023 11:54:26 GMT
It's a bloody wonder he managed to get a word in edgeways with our delighfull anti Tory woke lefty beeb...
Rishi Sunak defends 'stop the boats' pledge and says 'no illegal migration is acceptable'
Story by Katie Harris • 3h ago
Rishi Sunak has defended his pledge to stop small boat Channel crossings. The Prime Minister, who made the issue one of his top five priorities, insisted "no illegal immigration is acceptable".
He told BBC Breakfast: "No illegal migration is acceptable, of course not." Pressed on whether that means stopping all boats, he said: "That's what we're trying to do. "I don't think anyone would sit here and say to you that they tolerate any illegal migration. "Of course we don't want to tolerate any illegal migration."
Mr Sunak said flights carrying migrants to Rwanda will begin once court proceedings have concluded. When it was put to him that Home Secretary Suella Braverman has suggested flights will start this summer, the Prime Minister said: "No, that's not what she said, and what she said actually was that, when the court process has concluded, then we'll be able to start flights as quickly as we can.
"But ultimately we have to go through the court process, policies being challenged. We won the first battle of those and we'll continue to defend the policy."
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Post by piglet on Mar 21, 2023 15:34:40 GMT
The problem is that the Tories have been saying that since Cameron, and immigration, illegal and legal is sky high. Dont believe a word.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 21, 2023 15:40:56 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals.
1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence.
They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 25, 2023 14:18:19 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals. 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that. taking the bbc licence fee off them until they stop calling them ‘migrants’ and start calling them criminals would be a start. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 25, 2023 16:34:01 GMT
The Tories have played a blinder putting Rishi as leader, Labour would love to accuse the Tories of racism at every given opportunity, given the fact there has never been a female Labour leader, never mind a ethnic minority one, it's put Starmer/Labour in a untenable position.
Imagine anyone in their right mind trying to accuse Rishi Sunak as being a biased racist LOL.
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Post by sheepy on Mar 25, 2023 16:40:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 20:03:57 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals. 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that. The Law is very clear, anyone who enters the United Kingdom without a passport, visa or is not a citizen of the Irish Republic enters the UK illegally. But any person who does enter the country illegally and presents themselves to a police officer, police station, immigration officer or customs officer and claims Asylum, is from that point NOT an illegal migrant, they are then, officially an Asylum Seeker. Its Chicken or Egg ... you cannot claim asylum in the UK outside the UK, but upon arriving on UK territory, you are illegal until you claim asylum. How does a Syrian refugee claim asylum in the UK ? |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 25, 2023 20:20:17 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals. 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that. The Law is very clear, anyone who enters the United Kingdom without a passport, visa or is not a citizen of the Irish Republic enters the UK illegally. But any person who does enter the country illegally and presents themselves to a police officer, police station, immigration officer or customs officer and claims Asylum, is from that point NOT an illegal migrant, they are then, officially an Asylum Seeker. Its Chicken or Egg ... you cannot claim asylum in the UK outside the UK, but upon arriving on UK territory, you are illegal until you claim asylum. How does a Syrian refugee claim asylum in the UK Who is it that has made it even worse for REAL asylum seekers?....The bloody Karen's thats who. |
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Post by sandypine on Mar 25, 2023 21:28:33 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals. 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that. The Law is very clear, anyone who enters the United Kingdom without a passport, visa or is not a citizen of the Irish Republic enters the UK illegally. But any person who does enter the country illegally and presents themselves to a police officer, police station, immigration officer or customs officer and claims Asylum, is from that point NOT an illegal migrant, they are then, officially an Asylum Seeker. Its Chicken or Egg ... you cannot claim asylum in the UK outside the UK, but upon arriving on UK territory, you are illegal until you claim asylum. How does a Syrian refugee claim asylum in the UK Not quite right they are always an illegal immigrant, they may also be an asylum seeker but if their case is heard and won they become a refugee, if the case is lost they lose asylum seeker status but remain an illegal immigrant as that was their chosen method of entry. The idea is that people seeking a place of safety should seek a place of safety not a preferred place of safety. The rules were to facilitate whatever means of escape was most practicable, they may have found any of NSEW was available or that the train did not stop in Utopia and they could only get off in Shangri-La. These we understand. Travelling across numerous safe countries because they prefer the UK has a ring of taking the piss about it and perhaps that is what is not being understood.. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 25, 2023 21:31:34 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals. 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that. The Law is very clear, anyone who enters the United Kingdom without a passport, visa or is not a citizen of the Irish Republic enters the UK illegally. But any person who does enter the country illegally and presents themselves to a police officer, police station, immigration officer or customs officer and claims Asylum, is from that point NOT an illegal migrant, they are then, officially an Asylum Seeker. Its Chicken or Egg ... you cannot claim asylum in the UK outside the UK, but upon arriving on UK territory, you are illegal until you claim asylum. How does a Syrian refugee claim asylum in the UK Within a reasonable time. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 25, 2023 21:32:50 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals. 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that. The Law is very clear, anyone who enters the United Kingdom without a passport, visa or is not a citizen of the Irish Republic enters the UK illegally. But any person who does enter the country illegally and presents themselves to a police officer, police station, immigration officer or customs officer and claims Asylum, is from that point NOT an illegal migrant, they are then, officially an Asylum Seeker. Its Chicken or Egg ... you cannot claim asylum in the UK outside the UK, but upon arriving on UK territory, you are illegal until you claim asylum. How does a Syrian refugee claim asylum in the UK Claim it in France or indeed any of the safe countries you have to enter unless you are going to paddle / swim your way through the med and across the bay of biscay The UK has signed s treaty to accept a certain number of persons seeking political asylum or refuge from war and we signed it before anyone dreamed up the treaty of rome …. Of course, this means risking having to accept refuge or a new life in a country other than the UK I have yet to hear a compelling reason why someone fleeing war or persecution would refuse safe harbour in another EU country …… |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 25, 2023 22:01:42 GMT
Even the freedom of movement laws didn't include illegals. 1. Everyone lawfully within the territory of a State shall, within that territory, have the right to liberty of movement and freedom to choose his residence. They aren't Asylum seekers, and they aren't freedom of movement, they are out-and-out 'illegal' migrants, and the law needs to define that. The Law is very clear, anyone who enters the United Kingdom without a passport, visa or is not a citizen of the Irish Republic enters the UK illegally. But any person who does enter the country illegally and presents themselves to a police officer, police station, immigration officer or customs officer and claims Asylum, is from that point NOT an illegal migrant, they are then, officially an Asylum Seeker. Its Chicken or Egg ... you cannot claim asylum in the UK outside the UK, but upon arriving on UK territory, you are illegal until you claim asylum. How does a Syrian refugee claim asylum in the UK Why do they need to? - a quick glance at the map shows that they need to pass through at least 4 safe countries before entering the UK. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2023 23:55:17 GMT
With this particular topic we seem to go around in circles
Some refugees choose the UK as a place to seek asylum for particular reasons - they may speak English, they know of other people who are here, friends, family; Or they want to come here because they feel that the UK offers them a chance to make a fresh start.
There is no rule, no law, that states that a refugee must seek sanctuary in the first safe country they find themselves in - if that was the rule, some countries would be overwhemed and swamped.
Countries bordering Syria are struggling to cope with refugees, Turkey has more refugees than any other nation in the world.
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Post by Toreador on Mar 26, 2023 6:23:59 GMT
With this particular topic we seem to go around in circles Some refugees choose the UK as a place to seek asylum for particular reasons - they may speak English, they know of other people who are here, friends, family; Or they want to come here because they feel that the UK offers them a chance to make a fresh start. There is no rule, no law, that states that a refugee must seek sanctuary in the first safe country they find themselves in - if that was the rule, some countries would be overwhemed and swamped. Countries bordering Syria are struggling to cope with refugees, Turkey has more refugees than any other nation in the world.Moslems seeking refuge in a Moslem country, how quaint. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Mar 26, 2023 16:42:50 GMT
Maybe Britain should do what a number of countries are doing with refugees/illegal economic migrants fleeing deprivation who do not wish to return to their country of origin ... restrict them to camps run by the UN?
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